every advice its great!
i dont have much a couple of pics and just a couple of videos cant go to see it myself but the price its very good,thats why i ask for advice
every advice its great!
i dont have much a couple of pics and just a couple of videos cant go to see it myself but the price its very good,thats why i ask for advice
Quoted from bigd1979:Hard to much from pics but if price is 2k or less its a safe bet for a great pin.
yeah its less than that
Quoted from Metzu:yeah its less than that
The potato quality pictures don't really tell us much ....but any Bally/Williams DMD pin for less than $2k these days is a steal. Get it!
There's really no reason why someone can't provide non-blurry pics these days. I would ask for clearer pics but if less than $2K USD, I'd be interested.
What are you doing still posting pictures? You should already be in the car and on the way to look at it
Quoted from FatPanda:There's really no reason why someone can't provide non-blurry pics these days. I would ask for clearer pics but if less than $2K USD, I'd be interested.
yeah man its 1500
Quoted from Plumonium:Get it.
Worst pictures ever.
yeah the pics are so bad,thats the whole issue...
Quoted from ForceFlow:What are you doing still posting pictures? You should already be in the car and on the way to look at
it
thats the thing icant see it i have to buy blindly :/
Quoted from Metzu:yeah man its 1500
yeah the pics are so bad,thats the whole issue...
thats the thing icant see it i have to buy blindly :/
I would never buy a pin that I cant see and play. Forget this game and buy one locally that you can see and play.
Quoted from Who-Dey:I would never buy a pin that I cant see and play. Forget this game and buy one locally that you can see and play.
i know what you mean and its a wise advice but i dont have so manny options,no machines Available on my area :/
What's the worst that can happen if you do buy it and it's a basket of issues? You lose a couple of hundred bucks on it? Buy it blind and stop worrying - I do it all the time and it always seems to work out. There's much bigger issues in life to worry about than $200
Quoted from MiamiRedSkin:What's the worst that can happen if you do buy it and it's a basket of issues? You lose a couple of hundred bucks on it? Buy it blind and stop worrying - I do it all the time and it always seems to work out. There's much bigger issues in life to worry about than $200
well i guess...i just want to do the right thing.and get the game if i can actually play it
I've driven 3 hours or more each way for fuzzy craigslist photos, but I still have an opportunity to refuse or bargain if I don't like what I see. I won't buy something I can't actually walk up to. Photos can always be incredibly misleading, depending on lighting, angles, and cropping.
If you can't drive there and get eyes on it, I wouldn't bother unless you're fully prepared to take on a potential basket case (in a worst case scenario). You might get lucky, you might not. It's a roll of the dice. Although, the game seems to boot at least, so that's something.
Shipping would be anywhere around the $400-$600 mark. That would pretty much negate getting a bargain. Most sellers would prefer an easy local sale, to shipping something, though.
Bottom line, if you have experience with repairing pins and can make a list of potential problems with this game and game system, then you know what you're getting yourself into. If you have no idea, this might not be the pin for you.
Quoted from ForceFlow:I've driven 3 hours or more each way for fuzzy craigslist photos, but I still have an opportunity to refuse or bargain if I don't like what I see. I won't buy something I can't actually walk up to. Photos can always be incredibly misleading, depending on lighting, angles, and cropping.
If you can't drive there and get eyes on it, I wouldn't bother unless you're fully prepared to take on a potential basket case (in a worst case scenario). You might get lucky, you might not. It's a roll of the dice. Although, the game seems to boot at least, so that's something.
Shipping would be anywhere around the $400-$600 mark. That would pretty much negate getting a bargain. Most sellers would prefer an easy local sale, to shipping something, though.
Bottom line, if you have experience with repairing pins and can make a list of potential problems with this game and game system, then you know what you're getting yourself into. If you have no idea, this might not be the pin for you.
thank you ForceFlow i know what you mean about the machine booting up ill try to bargain the best price that i could so if something goes wrong ill be covered.i know what you mean about pictures,the guy dont seem to be very much into the whole pinball hobby(i dont know if that its a good or a bad thing i think its rather good...)
hear this guys when i asked him if he could do a video on the multiball on both machines(he got a DE hook too) he asked me what a multiball was...its some kind of bonus?he said..
... and the cabinet is faded.
In the video you can see all of these things are working: DMD, flippers, slings, sound, lamps, switches, and auto plunger.
I would take a gamble on a Fish Tales since it is a big favorite of mine, but not Hook.
Quoted from Neal_W:... and the cabinet is faded.
In the video you can see all of these things are working: DMD, flippers, slings, sound, lamps, switches, and auto plunger.
I would take a gamble on a Fish Tales since it is a big favorite of mine, but not Hook.
Thank you for your advice
It plays well, sound and lights are good. Playfield looks great.
Cabinet is faded, but they all are. Left sling seems boogered, but that will be an easy enough fix.
Seller hits both flippers together 90 percent of the time, which means he never plays pinball and I wonder how he came to have two pins.
At 1500, it's a steal, go get it right now!
Quoted from EvanDickson:Playfield looks great.
Look closer at the auto cast and orange fish.
Quoted from Neal_W:Look closer at the auto cast and orange fish.
Yep, that playfield has some heavy wear around the fish inserts. I would wait for something nicer.
Quoted from Anth:I would wait for something nicer.
Something nicer will be 3000-3500. If this is really 1500 it's worth it with wear and all. Dreaming of 15 years ago prices is just that.
You could shop that game and sell it for 2500.
As many have said, just buy it. To me, the only deal breaker is water damage. Everything else can be fixed. At that price you'll have a nice players game and you should have no problem getting your money back out of it later on.
Quoted from PDX_Pinball:As many have said, just buy it. To me, the only deal breaker is water damage. Everything else can be fixed. At that price you'll have a nice players game and you should have no problem getting your money back out of it later on.
wheres its the water damage?
Quoted from Wickerman2:Something nicer will be 3000-3500. If this is really 1500 it's worth it with wear and all. Dreaming of 15 years ago prices is just that.
You could shop that game and sell it for 2500.
you got a point there
Quoted from Neal_W:Look closer at the auto cast and orange fish.
i will
Quoted from Metzu:wheres its the water damage?
I wasn't saying this machine has water damage. I was just saying that in general, water damage is the only thing I'll run away from no matter the price.
Quoted from Metzu:wheres its the water damage
I think he means to never buy a water damaged game. He's not say this has any water damage
Quoted from PDX_Pinball:I wasn't saying this machine has water damage. I was just saying that in general, water damage is the only thing I'll run away from no matter the price.
Quoted from Mfsrc791:I think he means to never buy a water damaged game. He's not say this has any water damage
oh yeah i understand!
Quoted from Neal_W:Look closer at the auto cast and orange fish.
cant spot what you said about the autocast
Quoted from Metzu:cant spot what you said about the autocast
It sure looks like the orange fish and autocast areas are worn down to the wood. You can probably assume other areas of the pf will be the same way.
Quoted from onemoresean:I would offer $1200
lowball the already basement price! Classic
Quoted from onemoresean:Above the auto cast insert is worn down to the wood.
The stringer of fish also has a lot of wear.
This along with the missing topper and condition of the cab, I would offer $1200
And you'd probably be promptly "outbid"
Quoted from onemoresean:Above the auto cast insert is worn down to the wood.
The stringer of fish also has a lot of wear.
This along with the missing topper and condition of the cab, I would offer $1200
That game would part out for more than 1200. Pretty much any Bally Williams pin that is working is worth $1500 all day long, sight unseen.
If anybody is going to pick this pin apart at $1500, you'd be better off to pop and buy a really nice one for $3500-$4000. A worn PF is worn no matter how much. Faded decals are faded no matter how much. If that stuff bothers you at this price, then I'd say go buy one that is nicer for not a lot more.
Quoted from Bud:That game would part out for more than 1200. Pretty much any Bally Williams pin that is working is worth $1500 all day long, sight unseen.
If anybody is going to pick this pin apart at $1500, you'd be better off to pop and buy a really nice one for $3500-$4000. A worn PF is worn no matter how much. Faded decals are faded no matter how much. If that stuff bothers you at this price, then I'd say go buy one that is nicer for not a lot more.
those things wont bother me if its "playable"
Quoted from Bud:That game would part out for more than 1200. Pretty much any Bally Williams pin that is working is worth $1500 all day long, sight unseen.
If anybody is going to pick this pin apart at $1500, you'd be better off to pop and buy a really nice one for $3500-$4000. A worn PF is worn no matter how much. Faded decals are faded no matter how much. If that stuff bothers you at this price, then I'd say go buy one that is nicer for not a lot more.
those things wont bother me if its "playable"
Quoted from SUPERBEE:Can you pick it up or will you need to have it shipped ?
shipping only
Quoted from PinBallMagician:Looks like is has a credit dot but that's not a surprise based on the condition.
A credit dot doesn't mean much. It can get triggered if a switch doesn't get hit in a while.
Quoted from onemoresean:Above the auto cast insert is worn down to the wood.
The stringer of fish also has a lot of wear.
This along with the missing topper and condition of the cab, I would offer $1200
Eh, this title always has wear around the inserts.
I've seen a few different playfield decals available, so that could be an option. CPR also recently did a run of the two playfields, so if you're particularly ambitious, a playfield swap could be an option.
Quoted from Metzu:shipping only
I'm just curious--about how far is it from you?
I think you should give me the contact name and address and I will go and get you better pictures. From My Basement!! JK Not a bad deal at 1500 and looks like a fun players project. Good Luck but don't think to long!
Has a bit of wear as pointed out and a faded cab but for what you have said the seller wants, i would grab it and restore it, unless you just want a player condition fish tales.
I wouldn't wait too much longer to buy it as it will probably sell quick.
Quoted from EvanDickson:It plays well, sound and lights are good. Playfield looks great.
Cabinet is faded, but they all are. Left sling seems boogered, but that will be an easy enough fix.
Seller hits both flippers together 90 percent of the time, which means he never plays pinball and I wonder how he came to have two pins.
At 1500, it's a steal, go get it right now!
would you make an offer for both of them?or hook wont worth it?
Quoted from Metzu:would you make an offer for both of them?or hook wont worth it?
Hook is only worth about $1500 tops in nice condition. Judging from the condition of FT, I'd assume the Hook you're looking at is badly routed and has broken ramps.
This game would've sold in (-) 1 minute on Denver CL. I can't believe it is still available. Does this seller have an internet connection? You've confirmed this isn't a fraud?
Quoted from Metzu:would you make an offer for both of them?or hook wont worth it?
Never played hook, or priced one, so not sure about that it.
Quoted from ForceFlow:Eh, this title always has wear around the inserts.
I've seen a few different playfield decals available, so that could be an option. CPR also recently did a run of the two playfields, so if you're particularly ambitious, a playfield swap could be an option.
Hi,What you mean about a run of the two playfields?wich two
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