Last I heard, a printed copy of the manual was about $100 if someone wanted one.

However, you can get the PDF version for free on JJP's website.

So, no, the lack of the manual does not really affect the value since JJP games were not shipped with a printed manual.

If you're looking for a receipt to prove it is HUO, a receipt would be something interesting to accompany the game, but the lack of one doesn't affect the value. Condition is all that matters.

I agree here

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I'm not sure why anyone would really pay that much for a printed copy, when the PDF is paginated, searchable, and updated when there's a new code release.

If you really want a hard copy, you can always print it out and stick it in a binder.

I think the op is really talking about purchase paperwork, heck, I have opened nib games and don't have a shred of anything but emails to go off of

Makes no difference.

It is kinda cool to open a 20 year old game and find a sales receipt, or a maintenance ticket... or this...

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That is so weird/creeeeepy

Yeeeesh.....that's nightmare fodder, that is. And "she" has man-hands.

Paperwork has never influenced my decision to buy. Condition is king.

I just bought a pre-owned WOZ RR and same thing nothing on Paper. And yes it doesn't matter even for a warranty issue. I have had excellent factory support from JJP. Just an added bonus for purchasing one of their products. Its just another example of their willingness to stand behind their great products and (in my book) it adds value.

if JJP can just print one then it is worthless

papers, plaques, reciepts, original box come a distant second to condition, condition, condition

You don't need paperwork. Serial number tells verytjing you need to know. When you get the game, register as the new owner with jjp. It won't give you any benefit, but jjp can give you some of the history on the game.

Printed on photo quality paper, a lot more pages covering the development of the game.

If you take the pdf to Kinkos to get it printed and bound, you'll find the price similar.

LTG : )

Much better to buy it from the source, I'm awaiting the code to be final, then I'm on it, then I'll place it on a pedestal next to my game for all to fondle, along with a new set of Playfields and LIONMAN!!!

I only worry about papers when I'm playing for pink slips.

Did Ruby Reds come with a certificate? It is not really a limited game like the ECLE so coming with a certificate would be unusual in the pinball world.

It's large and expensive to print. Plus it has been updated several times because of code updates or various other things that players have noticed that would be useful to include.

It's not like the old days where one version of a manual is all you got.

Yes but the mistakes in them always made it a challenge.

LTG : )

Except when the game manufacturer sent out the service update bulletins to you (which were then added to the tabulation and addendums of the manual), free of charge, many times including parts and upgrades, if required, without asking, as an operator or registered private owner. The keyword is "registered" here for personal use not just an owner as the person needed to fill out the warranty card.

This included support for games that were no longer in production, sometimes exceeding more than a decade old.
Parts support was many times much longer, if the company was still operational.
This mindset went back all the way from the 1950s to the 1990s.

People forget the past in favor of a simpler, cost effective future, and are not directly considering all aspects of customer support.
It is just an example of not knowing what was provided when operators were the "standard" of game sales, and what was considered acceptable and what was not.
Times have changed, and not always for the better.
There is no nostalgia here, just observations.