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Buyer Beware!!!! (Treasure Cove)


By FLflier

7 months ago



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    #1 7 months ago

    I saw there is already a post by someone who had a bad experience with Treasure Cove. I just wanted to mention that I had a similar experience. I bought a Scared Stiff from them for close to $7000 and this game was not really restored. Just a paint touch up and service. Once I got it home, after a week or two, is when I started noticing problems with lights not working. Many of the multi pin connectors were severely corroded or disintegrated from what I guessed was a salt air environment. I had to hire a local pinball repair person and pay a small fortune to get it fixed. When you buy from Treasure Cove they do not give you a warranty and make you pay a non refundable deposit. Your best bet is to fly out there and inspect the game first before any money is exchanged.

    #2 7 months ago

    Was this recently? I thought Allen passed away? Is there someone else running Treasure Cove now?

    #3 7 months ago

    I had long thought about buying from them but never did due to distance and lack of warranty. The pictures they had of a STTNG restore looked amazing, but would rather purchase from a pinsider or someone with a warranty.

    #5 7 months ago
    Quoted from ralphwiggum:

    Was this recently? I thought Allen passed away? Is there someone else running Treasure Cove now?

    Allen is gone and his brother sparky of rgp fame seems to be running out the clock now over there. Not really
    The same company as it was a decade or so ago when they were considered one of the best high end restorers.

    $7,000 isn’t really that nuts for a scared stiff seems like close to going rate. In the old
    Days treasure cove stuff was twice the going rate.

    #6 7 months ago

    I bought a high end restored TOTAN before Allen passed years ago, Yet he must of been going downhill as I believe I paid like 12K for it or something retarded and it was a huge disappointment. I remember trying to talk to them regarding the game and some of the issues and it was a total nightmare. Stay away from Treasure cove they at one time did good work yet those days are long long gone.

    #7 7 months ago

    This was about 5 years ago and Allen was still there. I met him actually in front of that infamous garage door you always see on ipdb.org. He was a very nice guy. Yes, sadly he passed away about 2 years ago according to their website. I think his brother Ray is running the business now. I agree, some of their restorations looked amazing which is why I bought from them. Not sure why I had a problem. I think some machines they put more effort into then others or possibly they were just trying to crank them out too quickly. Could be they have improved since then but I wanted to share my experience anyway.

    #8 7 months ago

    So you are posting about a 5 year-old problem?

    #9 7 months ago
    Quoted from Black_Knight:

    So you are posting about a 5 year-old problem?

    Yeah, it reads like that..... This is really confusing. Especially because he also posted this- https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-scared-stiff-bally-1996-2013

    #10 7 months ago

    WTF is happening here?

    #11 7 months ago

    Five years ago I saw a terrible movie.

    I’m trying to remember which one so I can steer you all clear of it.

    #12 7 months ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    Five years ago I saw a terrible movie.
    I’m trying to remember which one so I can steer you all clear of it.

    Grown ups 2?
    Don't hate on 'Movie 43' everyone. The skit where Hugh Jacklman had testicles hanging from his chin was worth it.

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    #13 7 months ago

    HAHAH, yes I am posting about a problem I had 5 years ago because I saw this post which was much more recent and I had a similar experience:

    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/buyer-beware

    I thought I was the only one who had an issue with treasure cove but apparently not. My thought was just to give folks a heads up because if they sold machines in the past claiming a "full restoration" when they are not, they could certainly still be doing this.

    #14 7 months ago

    I'm not really understanding your point here. You're saying that you just came across a post from a year ago that reminded you of a bad experience from 5 years ago and figured it was about time to "out" treasure cove for that?

    While I think we all appreciate being warned about bad buyers/sellers/vendors, it seems that complaining about something that happened 5 years ago doesn't really help as it's not pertinent to what that vendor may be doing today.

    #15 7 months ago

    Yeah this is some serious bullshit lol

    #16 7 months ago
    Quoted from FLflier:

    HAHAH, yes I am posting about a problem I had 5 years ago because I saw this post which was much more recent and I had a similar experience:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/buyer-beware
    My thought was just to give folks a heads up because if they sold machines in the past claiming a "full restoration" when they are not, they could certainly still be doing this.

    If it was just touched up why did you try to sell it in 2016 as "fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball"?

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    #17 7 months ago
    Quoted from onemoresean:

    If it was just touched up why did you try to sell it in 2016 as "fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball"?

    Don't worry. I'll be addressing his ad's description with a complaint thread in 3 years.

    #18 7 months ago

    Why would you bring this up? TC doesn’t sell restored pins since Allen died. He has been gone like 2-3 years? So who are you telling beware?!?!
    Their decals are still sold and top notch.

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    #19 7 months ago

    I think this is still relevant. It happened 5 years ago BUT then happened again 1 year ago. So at least between 2013 and 2017 they were still doing this. That's a 4 spread.

    #20 7 months ago
    Quoted from athens95:

    Why would you bring this up? TC doesn’t sell restored pins since Allen died. He has been gone like 2-3 years? So who are you telling beware?!?!
    Their decals are still sold and top notch.

    Yah, they do still sell restored pins.

    #21 7 months ago
    Quoted from onemoresean:

    If it was just touched up why did you try to sell it in 2016 as "fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball"?

    Because I paid someone else to complete the restoration.

    #22 7 months ago
    Quoted from FLflier:

    Because I completed the restoration.

    Did you change your name to Allen Shope?

    #23 7 months ago
    Quoted from egyptrus:

    I'm not really understanding your point here. You're saying that you just came across a post from a year ago that reminded you of a bad experience from 5 years ago and figured it was about time to "out" treasure cove for that?
    While I think we all appreciate being warned about bad buyers/sellers/vendors, it seems that complaining about something that happened 5 years ago doesn't really help as it's not pertinent to what that vendor may be doing today.

    Well the same thing happened much more recently according to another user. It's not everyday you spend this kind of $$ on a pin and especially if you are buying it site-unseen. I'm just pointing out that someone recently had the same experience. These games are going for between 8 and 10K now. Wouldn't you want to know as much as possible before ordering something this expensive online? I wish someone had warned me.

    #24 7 months ago
    Quoted from stevevt:

    Did you change your name to Allen Shope?

    No, I changed my name to stevevt

    #25 7 months ago

    This gets my vote for the most f'ed up post in a while. Come on man. My wife messed me up and left me high and dry about 10 years ago. Maybe someone here would benefit from that info but maybe I should just let it go. Jesus this place is getting strange.

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    #26 7 months ago

    Liar, they have NOT sold a restored pin since Allen died. I would know as I make the decals for treasurecove.

    Call a spade a spade here people.

    #27 7 months ago

    5 years ago!!! You shitting me? And you're coming around now to stir the pot. Just wow

    Move along, nothing to see here

    -Mike

    #28 7 months ago
    Quoted from athens95:

    Liar, they have NOT sold a restored pin since Allen died. I would know as I make the decals for treasurecove.
    Call a spade a spade here people.

    Spade to spade, now you are a liar. Dude did you even check their website? They are STILL selling!

    "Pinball Machines - Restored and Ready For Sale"

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    #29 7 months ago
    Quoted from Grizlyrig:

    5 years ago!!! You shitting me? And you're coming around now to stir the pot. Just wow
    Move along, nothing to see here
    -Mike

    No man, the post was from just a year ago!

    #30 7 months ago
    Quoted from FLflier:

    I think this is still relevant. It happened 5 years ago BUT then happened again 1 year ago. So at least between 2013 and 2017 they were still doing this. That's a 4 spread.

    It would be more relevant for Allen to come back from the dead and down vote you.

    #31 7 months ago
    Quoted from PaulCoff:

    It would be more relevant for Allen to come back from the dead and down vote you.

    Sure would. Then he can sell you a shitty pin.

    #32 7 months ago

    Maybe you could start a skit-B and Jpop beware thread as well.

    #33 7 months ago
    Quoted from onemoresean:If it was just touched up why did you try to sell it in 2016 as "fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball"?

    Quoted from FLflier:

    Because I paid someone else to complete the restoration.

    From your ad:

    ITEM DESCRIPTION
    Beautiful Scared Stiff machine fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball. I have had this beauty as the main showpiece in my living room. Excellent condition and an absolute blast to play (especially with Elvira's adult humor). Selling only because we are downsizing homes, otherwise I would keep her."

    But you did not say you paid someone else to complete the restoration which I assume you considered inferior.

    "I bought a Scared Stiff from them for close to $7000 and this game was not really restored. Just a paint touch up and service."

    But yet in your ad above you are singing the praises of this Allen Shope.

    Which is it? Either he made a complete and "fully restored" pin, or he didn't and you had to pay some one else. Why give credit to this Allen guy when you had to pay someone else? And then come here way later and say Allen did POS restore job.

    Strange stuff.

    #34 7 months ago
    Quoted from cottonm4:

    From your ad:
    ITEM DESCRIPTION
    Beautiful Scared Stiff machine fully restored by Allen Shope of TreasureCove Pinball. I have had this beauty as the main showpiece in my living room. Excellent condition and an absolute blast to play (especially with Elvira's adult humor). Selling only because we are downsizing homes, otherwise I would keep her."
    But you did not say you paid someone else to complete the restoration which I assume you considered inferior.
    "I bought a Scared Stiff from them for close to $7000 and this game was not really restored. Just a paint touch up and service."
    But yet in your ad above you are singing the praises of this Allen Shope.
    Which is it? Either he made a complete and "fully restored" pin, or he didn't and you had to pay some one else. Why give credit to this Allen guy when you had to pay someone else? And then come here way later and say Allen did POS restore job.
    Strange stuff.

    Because I thought it was a one-off issue. Now I am learning that other people got ripped off also. Would't you be concerned if you were spending 10 or 12K??? Maybe you are independently wealthy and just don't care.

    #35 7 months ago
    Quoted from madscientist101:

    I bought a high end restored TOTAN before Allen passed years ago, Yet he must of been going downhill as I believe I paid like 12K for it or something retarded and it was a huge disappointment. I remember trying to talk to them regarding the game and some of the issues and it was a total nightmare. Stay away from Treasure cove they at one time did good work yet those days are long long gone.

    Yep, same exact experience I had. THANKS madscientist101!!

    #36 7 months ago

    You should add the date of purchase to your first post.

    #37 7 months ago
    Quoted from FLflier:

    I guessed was a salt air environment.

    I'd imagine a place called Treasure Cove would probably not be in a fresh water lake.

    #38 7 months ago
    Quoted from FLflier:

    Because I thought it was a one-off issue. Now I am learning that other people got ripped off also. Would't you be concerned if you were spending 10 or 12K??? Maybe you are independently wealthy and just don't care.

    Here's the thing, Allen died and this is in poor taste. If it just happened then that is one thing. Starting a thread warning people not to use the work of someone that passed away is pretty low. Allen's brother mainly did jukebox work and while he still may be working on a few things TC is no longer doing restores. The website just likely hasn't been updated.

    #40 7 months ago

    What a jagweed. The man has passed.
    Wtf is goin on in Sarasota...bridge club cancelled two nights in a row?

    #41 7 months ago
    Quoted from jgentry:

    Here's the thing, Allen died and this is in poor taste. If it just happened then that is one thing. Starting a thread warning people not to use the work of someone that passed away is pretty low. Allen's brother mainly did jukebox work and while he still may be working on a few things TC is no longer doing restores. The website just likely hasn't been updated.

    Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't know he had passed away before I posted this, and if they are out of business the point is moot. Out of respect for the family, let's end this thread.

    #42 7 months ago

    I dont even know where to begin on this one... wow.

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