I know this is a little off topic...I'm fairly new to this....What exactly does the "#16"mean?

After reading the thread I'm really confused on this! If that is the game number? I'd feel like things are a little shady when someone tells me "just switch the plates". Huh? That doesn't make any sense at all to me but I'm not clear on what the "#16" actually means. And maybe I'm looking at it all wrong. And not sure that's a good thing for Stern or the seller right now if that's out there. Again, not sure what that number actually means.

The rest of it? Tough call! I've been on both ends of this on much less money and get a little of both sides. If what's stated is the truth.

Added.....The more I think about this? Sry to say I'm on the ops side. Depending on what the "#16" means. Or what it is presented to mean!
When you are talking that kind of money? I wouldn't mess around! If I want my money back especially that kind of money after playing around and getting frustrated? The OP has more patience than I do. That is a lot of money!

Ok...This makes a little more sense then. So...If ordered and paid extra for that number(which I understand why someone would do that) and the seller or the company told me "just change plates"? That would be such a let down to me to know that either of them wasn't exactly honest. I would have been done at that point. "give me my money back right now!!!!!"

Did I understand something wrong here? What am I missing?

And the admitting of the offer of switching plates gets me. That is a little over the top. Sure, I'm sure it goes on.But......To admit it openly? Ouch!!
I'm with you...This isn't $100, this is 9 grand! I'd come unglued at this point!!!! I've been in business and understand there are two sides, and sometimes it's a juggling act with money etc...I get all of that. But!!! The Op didn't just back out...There were things there that may have made him uneasy. I get that too! I've had to return money on stuff in the past as a business owner, That money was already spent, and had to actually borrow it to pay and keep the customer happy. "The customer is always right."

I see both sides...But 9 grand makes most people a little edgy when a return doesn't happen swiftly! I know!! I wouldn't handle it well....."Don't send me the check, I'll be down to get it! So have it ready!"

If I was the business(Fun) I would be mad at Stern for fouling up the order, not the buyer that's irritated ! A company that size should have it a little more together on a special order. It happens, and Stern should have made it right for Fun and for the buyer? Business is business, when it's your mistake eat it, or part of it for everyone that helps you!!!

That's too long! I don't care if the buyer was a PINTA! Doesn't matter!

Also, I've never heard of ...A stop payment on a check is only good for 90 days? What good would that be? No...There has to be a way to Void it, cancel, etc...I have no experience with that lately so who knows maybe it is true now.

Ummmm? I wouldn't sleep at night! Not sure what I'd do over that kind of money. But I have a few ideas, and we wouldn't be airing it in a thread.

In the past....We just did bank transfer. Not sure if it's a good practice and was in a whole different type of business. But done, over with within basically hours. Now a days I'm sure it's less risky with all the new laws. Back then I think it was only something like a $30 charge or something close to that. Still cheaper than all of this headache!

"The check is in the mail" Just seems so outdated to hear this day on that amount of money.

Ya...No offense...but first sign of you backing out...Looking at it from their view...would have been an indicator to get this resolved and settled up "Right now" potential problem coming down the line. If we banked at the same bank? Money would have went that day. If they had it?

I'm kind of stuck to this thread..haha I like seeing how things are handled on both ends. And what were the options, how long, etc...

Ok, I'm starting to understand that. And I think it's just a thing in any hobby to want the lower serial number, cars,guns,watches,etc... And some people will pay a premium for those low numbers. Whether I think it's absurd or not doesn't really matter.

How is the Idea of the low number presented? If this is pushed as an extra cost? Then why would anyone blame the op for not just switching numbers? They wouldn't get the premium if everyone understood that, So, I'm betting it's not a good practice to admit that, or to offer a guy a plate switch when he paid a premium to get it. That proves to him that his extra cost was a "scam" in a way, he loses trust, and bails! I get that too!

Here I have a low serial number Patek.....Hang on..... let me stamp or scratch some lower numbers in it for ya to increase the amount of sale!

It's a sales Gimmick, I get that now. But if your going to use the gimmick? You have to follow the "rules". If all that makes any sense at all.

Can I call up Stern and say..."ya, Uh.....send me plate number XXX for such and such game, I'll give you a hundred bucks, and I'll just put it on my game."?

Not that any of it matters, I see the OP's view and maybe disgust on that. Whether I feel the idea is crazy or not.

It being admitted by the seller that a plate change was offered is ...........Harmful to the "gimmick". Where was the plate coming from? Ouch...

I'm stuck on that, and everything after that is just........On the buyers side no matter what he said or did. No ones fault, just "get me my money, now!!"

I don't even blame Fun or Stern. It was a mistake to lose the trust with the buyer. And it happens....

Ya that was originally my confusion too and kind of changes my view a little.......In all my ramblings in the thread I didn't realize that is what that meant. Not the actual serial number, just a "1 of xx"
I'm sure it will all work out in the end. I've already posted too much of my nonsense in the thread.

I also haven't seen anything in the thread that would make me not buy from Fun. I just know now that if I back out of a deal it might take me a little while to get my check. So, I'll try not to do that when dealing with them......See, I can't make up my mind here either of who's actually in the wrong. Just mix ups, and a little lag.

I'm sure it will all work out in the end.

I know why we think alike! That last sentence might be an area thing!

I miss Ohio! I don't miss the cold!

I can't seem to stay out of the thread......

But now understanding the plaque number a little more? My guess would be that there isn't an order. Just what number out of how many. My original thought was they were asking you to change serial numbers and I couldn't grasp that idea. They may run in order or run at random. That would depend on how things are done, how many people are putting them on. Like one guy grabs some, another guy grabs some and they start putting them on the games from that run, is an example. Maybe they do it in order, I have no clue. But even if they didn't it's still the same. Just a number out of how many games made.

Added....I also couldn't figure why it was only $100 to claim that number. They aren't tracking a full game, just the number until shipping time, put in an envelope with your address, then when shipping time comes, grab that envelope, put the plate on and ship it. Is just a guess......I could be way wrong! I'm just guessing!

But any number plaque on any game out of that run? Would be no deception. That might be why they wanted you to send the other plaque back(if I read right). to put it on another game from that run. Why not tell you to throw it away if they were just making numbers. So, no there wouldn't have been 2 number 16's.

Say, someone hit number 16 with forklift in the factory and it was damaged bad. Which happens in places.....Now, they aren't just going to throw that number out, so another one would be made and that number stuck on it. It's still number "16 out of xxx" but the serial number wouldn't be in order with the rest. Thinking of it that way, kind of puts it in the same type of idea, in a way. Just thoughts.......

So, I can see why Fun was confused and couldn't understand the backout and in their mind I'm guessing it was unjustified, on the other hand looking at how you are viewing it? I see why you backed out thinking you were being deceived on the whole number thing. I really do think I get some of both sides now.

That book is for toilet paper!

I just have to! Sry!!!! Nothing directed at anyone...Just a clip that made me laugh......

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Irrelevant...

At this point I don't see a way to "hang you" with anything you say.Unless, you have received the money and are dragging it out, that would be the only thing I can possibly think of as a bad thing, at this point. But I doubt that.

Whether any of us agree on why or how....They(Fun) agreed to refund your money. There is no contract as far as we all know. It's taking too long.

"damage control" isn't very good either. I wouldn't have a better idea of how to handle it, but it's not going well.

Happens all the time. That wouldn't be unusual. There are a lot places from small to large operating on a shoe string. No clue if they are, just saying not unheard of. Some months and years you win others you are borrowing and juggling the whole way just to make rent and payroll.

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Hey now!! Levelheaded and stable I am not! But don't even put me in the same category as CNN! What an insult!

Ya My wife is amazing too! I don't know how she does it!!! Get this! She can down two bags of chips, a gallon of ice cream, flush it down with a 2 liter, and smoke 3 packs of smokes all in the same day!!!!! Amazing at sitting on the couch and watching the TV so no one steals them!!! Can't cook, can't clean. But is an awesome couch and TV security system!

Of course I'm making the above up......... she only smokes a pack a day!

She is actually my best friend and we have been through a lot together. Just like most of us knew all of them aren't liars......And got your joke in a sick way. And yes! I'm joking on all of the above!