Better than half the people on Pinside have no business even owning a pinball machine. It's like guys on a car forum that have others do all of the work and can't even turn a wrench themselves. Sure, I guess you're in the hobby, but you're not really IN it.

Of the pinsiders that wrench on these things and do roadside trades, I would imagine most of them wouldn't have bothered to dig in to the driver board on a pin2k. It's usually a check the PF, check for battery damage and go kind of deal, not a "let me take the glass off, lift the playfield all the way, flip up the driver cover, and wrestle myself into the cabinet to check for damage where I least expect it" thing. Seller probably didn't know it was toast either. I have an unshopped player that I can say I've never been into that deep. It's a chore.

I did not lay all the blame at the OP's feet, if you'd read my post I said both are at fault. To simply say the seller is totally at fault is way to easy both failed in due diligence with this deal, to not recognize that is just being purposely obtuse.

Yes but pretty much every person in this thread that has come to back Baller42069 clearly states that
•he has good deals
•things are priced to reflect condition
•his communication skills are dogshit

Since this person has such a clear reputation of this (lest we forget the Comet+Beef Combo Listing), it should be assumed that any buyer from this person needs to do their due diligence. I'm not here to back Baller666 at all, but if you can't handle the sticky business that is buying and selling in this hobby from people with wildly different skills and reputations, go collect stamps or something.

Think about how this thread would have panned out if thing went like this:

_{Title: Buyer Beware: Baller88}

_{Body Summary: Baller88's communication skills are subpar and the game I picked up sight unseen didn't exactly match the description. I'm not mad as I could have done more to prevent this, but just be sure to do a little more research before you shell out money/trade. Flip on!}

I don't think 100% of the blame needs to go on HockeyMuff for how the deal went down, but 1000% of the blame for creating a dumpster fire thread that shows nothing but immaturity and inability to take responsibility is on him for sure.

Wait, what have I missed, comet with ground beef?
I once bought a Stern Big Game from him four years ago, and inside the cabinet was a huge pack of hot dogs

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-comet-33

He deleted the photos but it was the most bizarre pinside listing of all time. There were a few bizarre blurry photos of Comet, then 5 pictures of a few 20lbs bags of ground beef, a screenshot of a mysterious text with some sort of wifi/account password, and a picture of like a doctor's office or something. It was unreal.

Especially a seller who has a long track record of doing this to people. Do some homework people. Plenty of threads of misdealings with this seller.

Hockeymutt not sure if you've ever heard of John Wart Jr.? He's one of the best in the country on board work. No idea if he's taking on new work or anything, but figured I'd suggest looking him up on here or FB cause I've seen some boards that he worked miracles on. He's a wizard man.

He stopped accepting work in 2017, unfortunately. I haven't heard anyone mention that he's started back up since then.

Chris Hibler is certainly no slouch in the board repair arena, wouldn't hurt to contact him send some pic's and get his opinion on repairing.

OP did you try contacting Clive at Coin Op Cauldron? The guy is seriously pro at board repair.

Jerry Clause is another I would contact for possible repair.

He did a great job on my RCT board that somebody never bothered to change the batteries on. Probably a lot less work the the RFM though.

I had Butch Peel work on a RCT mpu a decade ago, that was drenched in battery acid, and his repairs were a work of art. He now works at Jersey Jack...

Things can be brought back to life, it all depends on the time you want to spend on it. The rarity of that board seems well worth the effort involved.

Not anymore. JJP let him go a few months ago, and CGC snapped him up.

Question is can he find someone to competently repair it for less than he'd spend getting a new replacement from Australia (evidently $315 + S&H at the moment). I assume he's getting turned down left and right because there's hundreds of dollars worth of challenging repairwork there. Doesn't mean it's not doable, but it might not make economic sense to do it.

Good lord, man. Are you serious??? The amount of ignorance some people are willing to reveal is shocking sometimes.

Doesn't mean it should be done. Save the time, buy a new board. Based on the photos that one is toast, unless you want to socket every chip & replace almost every component.

Can't believe this thread is still alive....

It's a boring Friday afternoon at work......

The only way I can sum up four pages of the issue....
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i cannot argue with that.

To the OP....just contact Rob Anthony (Borygard on here) and end it. He repaired my SWEP1 boards & computer that were HOPELESS! He knows what he's doing and doesn't screw people.
Additionally, if this pin has bad Joo-Joo for you, and I cannot blame you if it does, consider parting it out. You'll probably end up making more $$ than you think!

Did you eat them is the real question? Those were quality tube meats!

You are the man. Post result as to how much work was necessary to get it running.

There are some great board repair guys mentioned here. Not sure if they work on this board specifically but there is a 2-3 month backlog of work for them at the moment.

Saturday night bump... Reviving the scene...

Just when you thought this thread was as dead as that driver board...

Anyone else just scroll through fast for the memes?

If you are unable to get it going I do have a spare board.

Now here is a good pinsider.... Thank you for offering it up.

The bottom line is the industry of flipping pins is no longer as lucrative as it once was. The flippers on Pinside will always have to be shady and walk a little crooked to make a profit. If they made right every time someone got the short end of the stick, they would never make a profit. There are too many things that can go wrong, no matter who you are. I personally don’t like buying games from flippers because they haven’t owned the game long enough to know the issues and even if they did, they can always plead the old, “I didn’t know about the issues and you bought it in as is condition”. That being said, have I bought from flippers?? Yes! Have I had good and bad experiences with flippers, Yes. My advice is if you want a hassle free experience, buy local and from people you know. STOP trading games, it’s a fools trap and someone always gets the short end of the stick.

you read my mind.

Wanted to get in for no reason.
It was fun to watch.

don't agree.. the bottom 1/2 of the market is where all the money to be made on pinflation is these days. Buy a solid state for sub 1k, sell for 1500-2000k... alot more money in it now than there was the decade prior. There is money to be made on B/C titles all day long due to pinflation. The hunt is harder due to so many people.. but the pros have a scheme to keep getting games uncontested. It takes way too much energy to fend off the sharks.. and the idiots that bid games up the moment ads go up spoil it... but there is still a ton of money to be made for the people that can stomach it.

Games are still coming out of operator stashes... still. Crazy, but true.

yep, I got a guy who goes once per month and pulls a game out of a old operator stash. He said there are enough for him to do it for about 2 years. He sells one at a time for well below market value as is.

Dude is a professional ..and has a horrible reputation on pinside ..he clearly knew what he was doing ..this is why he has 4 different names on pinside ..and why his rockland pinball and his bar cade went out of a business

BINGO!!!!

Now you know better. Time to look at option B

Different options are coming

Pinside is not some autonomous machine. You can reach out to robin and have a constructive discussion and get his perspective

Here is my spare board. It looks like I stole a tip from it. I’m sure I have one here.

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I thought Pinside only allowed 1 ID, how can he have multiples? Sorry hockey

So good and evil have been seen here.
Perhaps you can look at the good and look past the evil.

Wow. So now it’s Pinside’s fault? You’ll blame anyone other than yourself.