(Topic ID: 24050)

Buy Target Decals or Print your Own?

By Crash

11 years ago


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  • 28 posts
  • 16 Pinsiders participating
  • Latest reply 11 years ago by CaptainNeo
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“Buy a set or buy sticky paper/Mylar?”

  • Get a game-specific set 15 votes
    56%
  • Do it yourself, it's worth the savings after doing several games 12 votes
    44%

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#1 11 years ago

I'm weighing the benefits of buying target decals vs. buying 30 sheets of sticky printer paper for $15 and Mylar protectors for $4 per set of 5 at Pinball Resource. If I buy the decals for $6-$10 a set don't some already come with mylar protection? I plan on re-decaling targets on several games including Cue Ball Wizard, which for the record probably has over 15 drop targets alone.

#2 11 years ago

I just print my own

#3 11 years ago

Also found out Pinball Resource has cheaper stuff I can order along with Mylar protectors. Nice.

#4 11 years ago

The Pinball decals ones are higher quality and more durable though.

#5 11 years ago

Well if you can find a decent image and apply Mylar over the sticker shouldn't that suffice? Check out what this guy did... turned out great!

http://www.purcellvillepinball.com/GottliebRepairs.html#CueBallWizard

#6 11 years ago

Pinball Decals has some really nice stuff but it's salty as hell! With that said, there still the best out there.

#7 11 years ago

Yeah but $25 for target decals? That's a joke. They don't even have decals for Cue Ball Wizard and all of them are now missing on that game.

#8 11 years ago

just buy em

#9 11 years ago

My time is worth more than the cost of the decals/

#10 11 years ago
Quoted from VisitorQ:

Pinball Decals has some really nice stuff but it's salty as hell! With that said, there still the best out there.

I agree. Expensive, but they are fairly high quality.

#11 11 years ago

I get pinball decals. In the scheme of things I do not find these expensive at all.

#12 11 years ago

I don't like non-original decals. I prefer the original, bare looking targets.

On drop targets, I'd buy replacements if they are textured like originals.

If not, perhaps I'd print my own. But, for the cost of a set, I prefer to just buy them whenever possible.

#13 11 years ago
Quoted from Crash:

Well if you can find a decent image and apply Mylar over the sticker shouldn't that suffice? Check out what this guy did... turned out great!
http://www.purcellvillepinball.com/GottliebRepairs.html#CueBallWizard

I've done this. But it's not the same. Pinball decals have a hole for the target rivot and are extra thick so that they don't wear out as the ball hits them. Of course if you print your own, as they wear out you can just print them again. But really, the pinball decals quality is better. And what's $25 to an expensive pinball? And whether or not a specific title like cue ball wizard exists or not has nothing to do with the quality...

#14 11 years ago

I buy them as I am too busy to worry about making them. They have already done the work to find an appropriate image, size it and print it. Plus, they last quite a long while. After a couple of years, I have not yet worn thru a set.

#15 11 years ago

I'm thinking about trying hand-made decals on a couple of games with targets in plain view and see how that goes. If it gives me trouble I suppose I'll pony up and order the real ones. Thanks for all the advice.

#16 11 years ago

A few months ago I ordered a set of vinyl stickers from Sticker You, after my wife got a Groupon for them.

You do up your own artwork, and they'll print and die-cut them to the dimensions you've got in the artwork. Was cheap too... think I got a whole page of Black Knight Drop Target and Spinner Decals, along with Spinner Decals for my Space Odyssey, for under $10. 8.5x11 sheet was large enough that I had more than one set on the page, so when they give out I've got replacements.

They're not laminated, but the Spinner I redid for my Space Odyssey seems to be holding up good so far (no detectable wear at all yet).

Boon for me here was that they're already die-cut, as opposed to my having to cut the bloody things out and try to guess how big I need it to be. Do artwork to size, they'll cut on the edge of your artwork.

#17 11 years ago

Wow thanks, I'll look into that. Is there a way to opt out of the padded border? Did you use the traditional white vinyl? Would you recommend mylar protectors over those?

#18 11 years ago

Yes, there is a way you can opt out of the padded border. I forget how to do it, but I got mine cut right to the edge of the artwork that I did.

As for mylar protectors or some sort of lamination, it might not be a bad idea. If it was going on the playfield I'd be more inclined to have that done, as opposed to if I was putting it on a drop target or spinner. That said, though, I didn't laminate or mylar the spinner I did for my Space Odyssey, and its held up perfectly so far (~3mos). Long term wear, though? No idea.

For others reading the thread... if you need square decals measuring "22mm" (0.86") square, I'd recommend Moo.com. You can get a "Sticker Book" from them containing 90 stickers that size for $9.99 plus shipping. Moo also has a free "sample pack" you can get from them that contains "one of everything" so you can see what their stuff is like. I've got the sample pack here, and comparing those stickers to the ones from StickerYou I definately prefer the ones from Moo. Only gotcha is... Moo stickers only come in their sizes, while StickerYou will cut to your artwork. But, if you can work with the Moo sizes, those stickers feel more durable.

#19 11 years ago

I did custom ones for my BBB, the artwork was pictures of myself and a friend that Stan Fukuoka (the game's artist) drew for me. I matched the colors with the originals and even assigned new part numbers. Printed on sticker paper and covered in mylar. They were perfect. Held up really well until I removed them too (sold the game).

#20 11 years ago

Buy them and make it easier for you.

#21 11 years ago
Quoted from kwiKimart:

Buy them and make it easier for you.

When they're available, I'd usually agree; its far easier to just order a set and have them delivered. For some games, though, that's just not an option. In my case, I was printing decals to replace the spinner on my Space Odyssey (as I've yet to find anyone w/an original for sale) and used the Black Knight decals to fill in the rest of the sheet.

Sure enough, though... within weeks of stripping the paint off of the old "Gottlieb 300" spinner that was in the machine, repainting it, and putting the decals on, someone pops up on eBay parting out a Space Mission and they had an original spinner. And no, for those looking for one, the backglass she had on that parts machine was toast (I asked as I know of several of you looking for one in reasonable shape).

#22 11 years ago

I recently backed out on an IJ because they were not NOS.

#23 11 years ago

Make your own, pinball decals might be durable but the images suck ass no creativity at all the SM ones are simply horrible and so cheap looking I would want them to wear off. Make your own with some quality images and I'm sure eventually you will perfect them, if they wear off re print some more simple!

#24 11 years ago

The way to remove the border it to choose the cut to preset shape option. This works but it doesn't support holes, so I will have to cut the center hole out on the round standup targets with an X-ACTO knife.

#25 11 years ago

I usually print my own, then clearcoat the targets or drops so they last a lifetime.

#26 11 years ago
Quoted from Crash:

The way to remove the border it to choose the cut to preset shape option. This works but it doesn't support holes, so I will have to cut the center hole out on the round standup targets with an X-ACTO knife.

Hole punch? My wife has a whole drawer full of them in various sizes, shapes, and depths (for when you want that hole half way across a regular piece of paper). For all that I griped for months when she was buying tons of stuff from Michaels, every now and then I find some awesome tool or crafty thing buried away in her art room that works just perfect on my pinball repair (I just don't tell her I use them, or she'd never let me back in there).

#27 11 years ago
Quoted from eggbert52:

I recently backed out on an IJ because they were not NOS.

Really? Why? Were they inferior quality? Just curious why that would be a deal breaker.

#28 11 years ago

I don't know if i'd want NOS on a decal. The glue would go to shit over the years.

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