There is a standard LED hardware module from pinballcontrollers that can support RGB. It just uses a two wire serial cable to connect to the P-roc/driver board chain. It uses directly wired RGB boards that easily mount under an insert. There are also break out boards available to make wiring easier. It is more wiring then a serial approach, but more reliable. When I started to play around with them, I added some code in my game to quickly tell if it is a standard or RGB lamp, so that both will play nice together. Also lets me upgrade the the lamps later without having to change code immediately. There are also RGB Flashers, but I've not played with those yet.

If there is a P3 in my house, it's not going anywhere.

Wow 8 multiballs eh! All of these are possible in one game? Really, there must be some long ball times on this one.

Could you post your average from your audit? I'm just really curious now!

That sounds like it's working correctly to me It's not pinball if it doesn't make you eat your kidneys every now & again.

New red ramp..chopped to divert to the wire form!

Pinball is awesome!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

Eh, most people glowing over a SoF haven't played one much. Steve Ritchie was right about it being a dud. The best parts of it are the music and shadow like play field. It isn't bad or good but for the same money you could get baywatch, jd, strange science And hardbody And an EM, or others.

Pretty sure I can spot all of them... Wait, I bet I'm not allowed to play.

Personally, I think SoF is a pretty great game. As for the price getting out of control for this title, that all happened well after Nelly decided to use this title for the project (and thankfully well after he and I each managed to snag ours).

What I will way about SoF when you play it stock and really get to live with it for a while, it can start to feel like a three trick pony: Mini-PF, AVENGER, and Titans-lane multiball (and the multiball is just the first two over again). The loops are fun, but they don't really add much. The top center ramp has the physical capability to do a lot with its diverters, but doesn't really in practice. Overall SoF could use more flow and better rules.

And honestly, these last round of changes that we hashed out for the playfield (and Nelly has bravely and miraculously made a reality) really bring a different feel without fundamentally throwing out what makes SoF so great. Coupling the playfield changes with the new code, a player has a lot more to do when playing.

We think they are really awesome changes, and are looking forward to putting it out there at expo and finding out what everyone else thinks.

on my Must see/play list for Expo !!

How come a guy in his garage can seem to produce better PF art than Stern?

Because the guy in his garage can do whatever he wants and doesn't have to deal with licensor approval.

That looks beautiful. If you have a failed playfield you don't want I would love it just for the wall art.

Bring it to Pintastic next year !!!!

What a great work. Respect!

Greetings,

Bas

I played it at expo last year and honestly I wasn't to thrilled. but I did watch this thread more closely and more excited to give it another go. I look forward to playing it at expo, now that I have more insight. Fantastic job on the playfield.

I'm hoping to impress everyone with the new code (which is already quite a bit better than last year's showing). Much like Dave, it feels like I'm running out of time, but we shall see.

It wouldn't be a pinball show if we all weren't cutting it close! Looking forward to playing!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

cool, love to play it. I know it takes time. appreciate it sir

that is looking beautiful

Looking good, Nelly. Is it gonna be clear-coated before EXPO or after?

finished my clear coating on Monday night, so in a day or two I can start assembly. Sounds like we are pretty much in lock step I know based on comments from MOcean, we were both routing the new playfields at the same time. Time running short, and I don't have as much help as you do, since I do the software, art, clear coating, etc.

I know you have made a bunch of changes to the playfield, but are there an news ones in this version that have not been tested out? I've changed a few things in my machine that have never been tested and hoping they actually work as intended vs 'breaking' the shots/flow.

We are in the same boat with a few of the playfield changes. At a minimum, we have added two up/down posts that are new and we need to refine their timing to not destroy the flow. We know they work, and I thankfully had the forethought to make these values easy to to tweak, but they will surey need tweaking.

Having more than one person on this project makes it easier by far, but having the code and machine in different places makes testing quite a bit harder. My "Swords of Buffy" (SoB) is many steps behind Nelly's at this point, so testing is done by a combination of pure pyprocgame simulator, Visual Pinball, and on rare occasion actually using my SoB machine. Unfortunately all the tests end with sending it along with fingers crossed...

Anyway, I have massive respect for your Kugler's pin. Doing the whole machine yourself, design, build, and software, is a crazy task. The fact that you've started your second machine is a real testimony to the hardness, and carbon core of your balls.

A months or so back it struck me that no way I could I bring it back to expo as a white wood. Big change last year was the move to the larger, color display, so that was sort of where my focus was. So, while I don't love the art work, it is certainly a big step up.

Are you use switch rules in the p-roc or in code? If you (Michael) goes strictly as a switch event in code, you could run into an issue with latency, but with the performance elf the HD pyprocgame framework, that is likely not an issue unless you are running on a raspberryPi or a BBB or something similar. I think right now on my up post I am just doing a switch rule in code, not a mapping in the p-roc, so I can certainly share my settings on that (the switches are a five inches or so from the post). For the magnet I am installing now, I plan to use a p-roc switch rule, since the switch is directly above the magnet and any latency/delay in triggering it could be an issue (although in most cases it would just pull the ball back to it like a magna save).

You sound swamped! I bet you're gonna need help beta-testing before EXPO. Lemme check my calendar...

Based on where he is at with things, that would be the night before expo.

Or with the head down, in the back of Dave's Jeep on the way to expo...

Im just kidding. The code won't be ready by the time it's loaded into the car.

Rent an RV / mobile workshop. Just disconnect the tilt mechanism when playtesting.

We have wanted to do the RV thing but the doors are too narrow for a pin!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

two words . . .

blow torch

AWESOME!

wait a minute, don't you guys have a 'scooby doo' van? Thought you were showing off photos of it before one of the California shows.

And I would have gotten away with it, too if it wasn't for those pesky kids...

Haha! That was a van that a friend of Brian's let us borrow! That thing was a spooky mystery of its own!

I don't think Dave would let us take a torch to his RV. Our idea was to pull the Playfield frame out and work on it in the RV and mount the cabinet on a bumper mount. He has taken a pin camping that way before!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

Whoa! I want a Fun Mover!!! Business write off???

Aaron
FAST Pinball

It was already awesome a year ago at Expo ... everyone is going to love it!

BTW Nicholas Brendon just got arrested again. Might want to add an Easter Egg "Arrest Xander" mode.

That looks nice! We went to get playfields cut last night and the CNC router was out of whack and wasted my boards. We switched to experimenting with laser cut MDF for the whitewoods... Let's see how THAT goes! 13 days.... ouch!

Aaron
FAST Pinball

And I've got two days to build him 2 WPC Cabinets!

If he made it I could probably bring it out. I am driving games out.

Aaron
FAST Pinball

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I have faith you can do it! Besides, I want to play this tomorrow See you then!