Which coil is noisy?

This is all correct behavior. The rollover numbers start lit and the ship's wheel numbers start unlit. The goal is to collect all 11 numbers and light them in the ship's wheel.

Does the score motor continue to run as well? When you say the D relay 'keeps going', is it pulsing, or is it locked on?

Is it set on 3-ball or 5-ball play?

On 3-ball, the rollovers are 'ganged' together and score in pairs. So sounds like it's working OK.

The operator manual might have the description of the 3-ball vs. 5-ball differences (or on the score card). Not all the numbers are paired on 3-ball, IIRC.

Are you pressing down on the armature plate that you're touching as shown in the picture, or the one below it?

The one below it is the one that's actually pulled in by the coil. The one you're touching then just snaps down onto the reset bar, and isn't affected by the coil.

It could be that the point where those two armature plates engage is a bit gunked up, and could use some cleaning (and maybe a dab of SuperLube) to help the bottom plate get pulled in by the coil.

Also make sure the relay bank is seated square and fully into the brackets (loosen the wing nuts and make sure the bank is all the way in and not twisted).

And make sure the coil isn't staying active and that's why the plate is buzzing. The coil should just fire once to pull in the bottom armature plate and then turn off.

Buccaneer has a liberal/conservative adjustment for spin and spot. However, in 3 ball mode,it is lit all the time until you complete the entire sequence and relay 12B trips.

Otherwise, in 5 ball mode, the position will determine how many or which of the 3 positions the score motor can sit at to light it. I think in the liberal setting (all the way over) it will light all the time in 5 ball mode also.

The Spin and Spot lamp has a 75 ohm 10 watt Ceramic resistor in line with it and I believe it is sized for a #47 lamp (not a #44). If the 47 is too bright, then use a 44. If the 44 is dim, use a 47. If it doesn't light, check for 75 ohms across the resistor. And, WHATEVER YOU DO, do not install a 44/47 equiv. LED in it as it will burn up (getting 25VAC). To use an LED, you would have to replace the ceramic resistor with something like 1000 ohms (based on 20ma LED current draw).

That's some good info. I always wondered how you got it to light. Thanks.

Fire Lovie Smith.

The 75ohm, 10W resistor is sized for a #44 bulb (which are 6.3V, 0.25Amp). It's on the 25V circuit, so 25V-6.3V = 18.7V across the bulb if no added resistance. Ohm's law says V=IR, or V/I=R, so 18.7V/0.25Amp = 74.hms needed. Thus the resistor. (The 10Watts is the power rating, and needs to be able to handle the 18.7V*0.25Amps, or ~5Watts, so 10W is good enough.)

One could use #47s if the resistors were replaced with 125 Ohm ones (#47s are 6.3V at 0.15Amp).

(The Right and Left Special lights also have these resistors in series with them.)

Just an update to this narco thread =)

I have a Ship Ahoy that I had replaced some bulbs with out of the box 44's and it of course the Spin and Spot lasted a day since it was running higher voltage. Then I installed a red LED and it last about 2 minutes before frying! I did some research which lead me to this this thread.

Busting out the digital voltmeter with the correct 47 bulb installed 7.5 volts was measured, clearly over the bulbs 6 volt rating. I checked the resistance of the resistor and it was 75 ohms. So I ordered a pack of 125 ohm ceramic 10 watt resistors and installed one tonight.

I almost ordered a 100 ohm too and wish I did, but lets move along..

With the 125 ohm resistor installed with the 47 bulb I now have 3.9 volts indicated. With a 44 bulb installed, back up to 7.5 volts.

I'm going to leave well enough alone and keep the 47 bulb in running at 3.9 volts. It is bright enough to see clearly, though looks a touch dark after the "oh my god I'm going to burn at any second!" bulbs running at 7.5 volts.

100 ohm with a 47 bulb would be just about right I reckon.

Hope this has been of some help.

Edit- FYI the two Wow lamps are also at 7.5 volts measured but since they don't turn on as much as the Spin and Spot light I left them alone.