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Buccaneer Cabinet rescue

By Chum43

9 years ago


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#1 9 years ago

Picked up a Buccaneer a few weeks ago. Playfield great but cabinet was trashed. Two legs ready to fall off and literally yellow with smoke from wherever it lived. Lots of carved initials everywhere as well. Decided to re-paint it and fix the damage. This is a personal unit that I plan on keeping.

#2 9 years ago

the start

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#3 9 years ago

I don't think these parts where "original"

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#4 9 years ago

Re-built leg supports and added some bracing to fix the bad corners

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#5 9 years ago

Traced the graphics. No stencils available.

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#6 9 years ago

Fixed the nasty corner with epoxy putty.

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#7 9 years ago

Nice pics...
Keep em' coming

#8 9 years ago

Sanded to the wood, primed, based coated and Gottlieb "flecks" applied

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#9 9 years ago

Blue applied followed by red...

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#10 9 years ago

Clear coated to even out gloss and seal. Its heading downstairs tonight to get re-lamp. new rubber etc. Will post final shots when done.

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#11 9 years ago

Your colors are not true to original-and yes, I know they would be somewhat faded. I actually like your color choices better than the original-if you are not concerned with originality. Your stencils look great!

#12 9 years ago

Very true stashyboy.....I figured that since I was painting the whole unit, which would be obvious to a "collector" anyway, that I would take some liberties on the color selection. I always hated the baby blue anyway so I grabbed a color which I thought gave it some pop. This baby isn't ever leaving the basement anyway

#13 9 years ago

Agreed, I have a repainted Buccaneer cab, and I like the dark blue a little better. Nice work!

#14 9 years ago

Thanks Swampfire.... Just got it inside to finish it up. Silly wife wants me to do yard work instead.

#15 9 years ago

Great job on the cabinet.

#16 9 years ago

You have done a great job Chum43 on this cabinet which was pretty decrepid from the pics. Are you confident the epoxy will not break out of that area given the movement from the leg during play? Also I would be really interested for some additional info on your stencil preparation because that and the speckle have turned out really well.

#17 9 years ago

I thought the trick with the epoxy putty was not to rely on it for any great structural strength. I completely reinforced the corner before applying the putty. Seems very strong. The leg corners are cover to the wood pretty much so the only questionable part would be where the holes are drill through. I was contemplating putting in a metal "sleeve" to take some of the stress off of it. Still might do that. Let me know what you need to know about the stencils.

#18 9 years ago

Nice looking job.

You do know that spattering instead of webbing the cab is going to enrage the purists, right?

#19 9 years ago

Odd you mention that... the original cabinet was spatter. Im not really sure why as I had read that all Gottliiebs of this era were webbed. This was the original paint inside. Maybe someone knows why...

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#20 9 years ago

Spatter is correct; check the pics on IPDB: http://ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=391

#21 9 years ago
Quoted from Chum43:

I thought the trick with the epoxy putty was not to rely on it for any great structural strength. I completely reinforced the corner before applying the putty. Seems very strong. The leg corners are cover to the wood pretty much so the only questionable part would be where the holes are drill through. I was contemplating putting in a metal "sleeve" to take some of the stress off of it. Still might do that. Let me know what you need to know about the stencils.

Thks Chum43-I just wanted to understand your making of the stencils and the process you employ-perhaps in step form as distinct from buying stencils.

#22 9 years ago

The Finish...

Re-lamp, re-rubber, polished metals and playfield cleaned and waxed up. Parked in its new home beside the Strato-Flite.

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#23 9 years ago

Nice work. Thanks for sharing with us.

#24 9 years ago
Quoted from wayner:

Thks Chum43-I just wanted to understand your making of the stencils and the process you employ-perhaps in step form as distinct from buying stencils.

Chum,
Can you give us a step by on the stencil process

first you trace the existing but then It looks like youre using a cardboard stencil. What is the transfer process from paper to board?

Thanks,
Jeff

#25 9 years ago

This is the method I used. When I actually did it I butt flushed the tracing paper in sequence to the cardboard to make a giant stencil. Following is just an example

#26 9 years ago

Trace outline on tracing paper.

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#27 9 years ago

Tape to cardboard. You will have marked reference points on trace like "flush with bottom , front etc. You will want to make sure that you have same alignment on cardboard.

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#28 9 years ago

Using an X-Acto knife on a cutting board...
Cut through trace and cardboard at the same time. Use a straight edge for the straight stuff. This is the most tedious part of the process.

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#29 9 years ago

Most cabinets have a mirror image on the other side so rather than tracing both, I simply flipped the first cut over and realigned on a new sheet. You will need a new stencil for each side and cardboard will not survive re-use!

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#30 9 years ago

Re-trace edge onto new sheet

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#31 9 years ago

Now you have the reverse side. Cut shape out of the cardboard

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#32 9 years ago

I am really interested in the method that Chem 43 used because recently I purchased a commercially available stencil set for my High Hand restoration. I was absolutely amazed by the intensity of adhesion of the stencil to the cabinet. This was nothing like that fairly nominal adhesion for example of masking tape. Indeed it actually took quite a deal of effort to remove. In about five spots the adhesion was such that it removed small sections of laminate from the plywood particularly on the head which significantly impacted the quality of the resto. As a result I will probably resist purchasing such stencils in the future and use the Chem43 approach. I am interested to know whether anyone else has experienced this problem.

#33 9 years ago

With out doubt you will have a seam down the middle as one sheet will not cover whole side continuous.

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#34 9 years ago

If you have cut outs which cross through sheet to sheet simple align sheets on the table and tape down.

Run a piece of masking tape down the entire seam. This will hold sheets and alignment together and prevent any paint from leaking through the joint as well. I used lots of tape, except around the cutouts, to make sure it was sturdy.

Using the edge of the cut out as a guide, cut the tape from the cutout.

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#35 9 years ago

This is the product I used to adhere the cardboard to the cabinet. It works very well and allows easy removal.
Run your finger down the edges to make sure they are stuck well. Small extensions will let go fairly quickly I found after paint so I had to be careful to get it down quickly. I only waited a couple of minutes for paint to set before removing stencil. I was afraid to let it set up to well and stick to the cardboard at the edges. Mine all came off real easy. Just use enough paint to cover ... to thick is not better here.

Hope this helps!

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#36 9 years ago

Note: This method is not fool proof by any stretch of the imagination. Just a couple of tips to fix any boo-boos should they occur.

1) Save the cut-outs form the cardboard. If you get any over-sprayed edges, just let it dry down and use the cutout to mask over the detail and re-spray base coat to cover overspray.

2) If you get high spots on the edges from paint "pooling" against an edge, let it all dry and run a razor blade flat against the cabinet to shave them off. Carefully of course.

#37 9 years ago

awesome! Thanks for the walk thru!

--Jeff

3 weeks later
#38 9 years ago

I hate to bring this back up, but chum, what were the colors you used for the cabinet? I got one of these about 3 months ago that im doing a full tear down restore/polish and i also plan on hanging onto mine. I read antique white is the base coat and im not even sure how to do the spatter. But i love the darker color blue rather than the baby blue and is that orange or red? My cabinet is so aged its really hard to tell. I plan on doing this same stencil job for mine as well. Heres a link to my machine. https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/1976-gottlieb-buccaneer-problem-need-help-my-first-pinball-machine-2

#39 9 years ago

Hi Bump...
Sorry ... I was on holidays for a while. Ill take some photos of the cans and post the colors for you tomorrow.

#40 9 years ago

Thanks Chum just let me know!

1 year later
#41 8 years ago

Note... I have found better success in cutting the tracing paper itself first and then taping it to the cardboard. You can then pencil in the outline to the cardboard. It is much easier then to cut stencil out of cardboard with out tracing paper attached.
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