ive never owned a ww2o but I played it in las vegas once and was ready to move on within a couple of games, fun to see what it offered but after a few times of it in that moment with all those other pins I was ready to go. bsd may also be a couple of things to see pin but your usually going to have to shake it down real good to be able to do it. the only pin i own that i nudge non-stop while playing it, ball's over in the out lane area w/o any speed? kiss it goodbye, bouncing around in the middle playfield? sounds like that ones about ready to head sdtm with out some proper intervention. this machine is a true gem that doesn't sparkle easily and actually makes me want to cry
Yes yes no one "gets it" but you
Maybe as the poll goes on Wh20 gets more expensive and less people can own it and rate it? Maybe they're just pretty even games?
I really like both of these pins. I won't get into themes because that's entirely subjective, but I give White Water the edge for having the total package (approachability for novices, yet deep enough to be satisfying for advanced players, well integrated art and music, unique layout.) BSD has the playability and uniqueness down, but the art intergration isn't on the same level as White Water.
All this being said I have a soft spot for White Water since I played it some much at 7-11 back in the day.
You will not repent with the choice.
Undoubtedly, BSD is a game "different"
Only I have site for a pinball. Because of it I have BSD, a rapid game, of short balls and very difficult that supposes a challenge whenever you play...
Makes you grow as player and if you like it his aspect is the authentic indispensable one.
WH2O is a great game, but unfortunately very easy, repetitively and monotonously... It if, it is a very nice game at sight.
Quoted from The_Director:
I would take WH2O over BSD any day. BSD is a one trick pony for me, and only lasted about 4 months in my gameroom. I like the game, but at other people's houses. WH20 I consider one of the top 3 pins of all time in my book. The_Director said:
BSD is a one trick pony
What-ever !! I've Owned both 4 Times each ,, WH20 is Cool , but it gets Bore some .. Director , Get ya a White Water and well C how long it lasts .. I sold you yr BSD & delivered it ,, It Whooped yr Azz so you sold it ..
Tell the Truth man .. U couldn't handle it ..
Lets see what happens resurrecting this thread two years later...
I own both and think they both are amazing games. I agree with BSD taking longer to be understood. A thing not often understood is that the angle is what enormously impact how hard is BSD: at 6.5 and above is a bitch, too much frustration, really too much. Around 5.5 a hard game, but not so extreme. True, wh20 is more kind of joyful pinball fun. Dont touch BSD if you are not really dialed in! For me is a draw, so I do not vote.
Owned White Water for 17 years and on about my fourth BSD and owned one most of the past 16 years . Both all time classics and top ten games for me. White Water has more of everything...more strategy, more shots, more flow, more flippers, more depth. But it also will cost more money.
I own both and have to say it's a tough one. Price factored in it's BSD easy, but fun factor is pretty close. I think doing the triple stack has a similar 'aligning the stars' feeling to a good 5x multiball run. BSD is not very friendly to novice players, but it makes up for that with mist multiball. Whitewater doesn't have the intensity, but makes up for it with the crazy ramps and silly fun.
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