Just picked up a bsd and shopped it out. Played a few games on it. It's tough. I need to rebuild flippers and put stronger flipper coils in. Not sure if it will stay. I never played I500. Which is better?
There is no similarity in gameplay to properly compare these two titles whatsoever.
"Better" is relative to your personal interests.
See my PinSide written reviews on these games for more information, if you want a breakdown of features and gameplay.
I have owned both, and sold both. Great games but very very different. I can fully understand how someone just might not get on with BSD. I loved it but after a time the whole stacking the multiballs begins to lose its appeal, its a shame there isn't just a little more to the game rules wise.
I'd say I500 provided me with more *fun*.
If both were available to me again ...I'd prob go for I500.
I have owned and sold both. I recently got a super nice I500 back in a trade. BSD is one of those simple rule games that has a pretty sweet reward (Thirtyyyy Million). great callouts from the movie, a game all about scoring points.
I500 is a mode based game that has a lot of timed required shots. It can feel a little clunky at times but when you are hitting your shots it also is pretty sweet. It has more to accomplish and for me is a longer keeper then BSD.
You can not go wrong with either game as they resell fairly quickly when priced correctly. Nice non faded examples are harder to find and are very desirable.
For me BSD is the clear choice. With BSD and TOTAN in my living room, I find myself still playing BSD more because it's not one of those games you just get to the end of and then it's done. You really can just keep playing and get better and better at it. It's tough but give it a chance before you ditch it because it really does hold its own in a games room - I hated it for the first year I had it.
If you like, switch those zipper flippers out with normal length ones and enjoy longer ball times.
I500 is also pretty good but very different - I think BSD has the theme trophy as well. There are some great animations and some great sounds.
I just think Indy 500 is the best car race game that's my opinion I just love the game I'm a big fan of Indianapolis 500 race and I have an eight-year-old daughter that just loves the game also.. I just think the Dracula game is so dark and drab also and I love the Indianapolis 500 play field it's so bright with its different colors the oranges and yellows it just pops...
Owned both and bsd is much better all around imo . I just cldnt get into i500 for some reason. Bsd is a top pin even among some other great title's i own.
Both fun but totally different the way they play.
I500 has more to do but the scoring can be a bit skewed the way some of the awards are given. You have an upper flipper and have to get that lock shot down. If the saucer rejects a lot it can be frustrating. Nice skill shot and decent MB play. Don't tilt because you may be giving up a huge chunk of your score.
BSD does not have as much to do but the mood is better. Not much of a skill shot but it more than makes up for it with 3 different Multi-Balls that can be stacked for big time fun and call-outs. Also the Mist MB is an absolute classic in pinball.
I would say it comes down to theme. If you like dark mood horror pins or racing theme.
Thanks everyone. Very insightful. I only have room for five games max, so I burn through them pretty fast. I shouldn't have a hard time moving it seems when it comes time.
Yeah, I played more tonight, I think the thing is there aren't any feel good shots. It's strange bc it kicks your ass and keeps you coming back but you never get that great shot. It's sort of just kicks your ass and then that's it.
Quoted from Djshakes:Yeah, I played more tonight, I think the thing is there aren't any feel good shots. It's strange bc it kicks your ass and keeps you coming back but you never get that great shot. It's sort of just kicks your ass and then that's it.
Thats y its great lol.... but the left ramp and right ramp/ lock are nice shots . Not to mention hitting the mist ball.....
I like the dark effect while playing BSD. The darkness of the blue and red has a settling grip when the machine is turned on or off. Stacking is a must for me when playing pinball.
With I500, it is such a bright hangover with all the colors and shaking. It's fast, but I could do with out the flash.
Ps. If your going to redue the flippers on BSD, know that the left and the right are not the same coil strengths.
I had a nice BSD years ago and got a big offer and sold it after a few months. I liked it but thought it just did not have enough to do. I was wrong. I got one from an operator 2 years ago for a great deal to give it a second chance. I knew a lot of pinheads loved the game for a reason and had to find out why. First the call outs and music are as good as it gets. There is enough to do with building up rats and bats bonus, one of the best video modes ever, and working up the castle and coffin multiballs . I have owned 72 pins and there is not a game like BSD period. It is a challenge with fun shots which makes a game stay in my collection. I have sold many B/W and Stern titles in the past 2 years and never considered selling BSD. It is a perfect complement to the rest of my collection or any collection for that matter. When I hear it is a drain monster that just means you have not learned the shots yet. Yes I have lots of bad games but the stacking the multiballs and getting castle jackpot and killing Dracula are one of the biggest rushes out there. Also this game will make you a better player because you have to control the ball especially during multi ball. I500 is fun but BSD is a masterpiece.
Quoted from PaulCoff:I like the dark effect while playing BSD. The darkness of the blue and red has a settling grip when the machine is turned on or off. Stacking is a must for me when playing pinball.
With I500, it is such a bright hangover with all the colors and shaking. It's fast, but I could do with out the flash.
Ps. If your going to redue the flippers on BSD, know that the left and the right are not the same coil strengths.
I put a 11629 on right and a 11630 on left. So much better.
Indy 500 all the way!
BSD is a great game, but Indy 500 is redonc fast and surprisingly very deep. Modes are all fun, and there is an X factor with that car that spins faster and faster (shaker like) on the top right corner (when you hit the silky smooth ramps).
I have come close to selling mine 3 times now, and just can't pull the trigger. It's that good.
Anyone I know who has gotten rid of theirs, is now searching to get one back. Fairly rare machine. Beats the pants off Getaway. And if you are not a fan of the in-game music ... try out the pinsound board. WOW!
I didn't initially consider BSD because of the dark theme, then I played it on The Pinball Arcade and fell in love with it. I now own a BSD and added a color DMD. Who doesn't want to take down Dracula? A timeless theme, and an awesome game. Mist multiball mech can be a pain with the long opto, so make sure it works right prior to purchase.
I have owned both games for 10+ years and finally sold BSD last year. Stacking all 3 multi balls is one of the best things in pinball. But for me, the single ball play was only ok.
I500 is one of my favorite games. Fast, fun, funny and great sounds really impress. If you like games like Shadow and White Water, you most likely will love this game.
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