So, I've bought on sold on Ebay for a long time. I look at pictures, ask question, but also trust feedback score as well, to give me an idea of seller.

Anyway, I had my 1st bad experience and am looking for ideas. The game overall looks good, the cab has been restored, not perfect but nice. I was not told it had been redone, but have no issues with that. What I do have issues with is when the seller says machine is very nice, shiney playfield with some wear at rat hole. No biggie, Ciffy time. Game is also list at 100% pays great, boards clean, machine clean inside and out.

The cabinet is straight and looks good overall, but I was disappointed with the screw holes when I noticed them, pissed that the seller didn't mention these. This isn't one or two holes, this is like 6-7 and the ones in the middle protrude the playfield and just a matter of time before plafield flakes off there. After opening machine I discover half the screws are not in flipper assembly and they are just wobbling around. Basically seller got it just good enough to get attached to playfield. The flippers have obviously jst been rebuilt.

My question these screw holes are big. Looks like they tried to use bigger screws to compensate for the stripped holes. I have ordered Dr. Grip (stripped hole filler) as recommended by a few pinsiders, but just curious how I should attack this?

I thought if you had a large metal plate, you could attatch assemble to the plate and mount the plate to the playfield, where the screws would go into untouched areas on the bottom of playfield.

I think I can repair the holes mostly with some filling and touch up, my big concern is the middle area where the laminate surface feels like its lifting? Any ideas? Am i totally F'd?

Trying to get some resolution with seller, but might see how well paypal supports buyers if it can't get resolved directly with seller. Glad I paid 500 too much and 350 in shipping as well...sigh

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Believe me it really sucks. Thanks though. What's crazy is the wear on rat hole is pretty minor. These flippers have just been rebuilt, no way seller did not see this. He purposely withheld information. I could never do that to someone, especially when they are paying for shipping. The cab was painted and cleared (with like a can clear) overall okay, but I can make nice respraying clear with compressor and gun. They did a great job on back of cab and re screening factory warning.

I did buy his Sharkey's Shootout too. It seems okay, fair amount of wear, but that was expected.

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Those things I could deal with (missing cash box, plumb bob etc) although not ideal. My first pin had tons of issues, but nothing that was clearly misrepresented. I was upset, but fixed the hacks and cleaned machine up. This is different, the right assemble had like 3 of the 8 screws that secure to play field in, the assembly was just hanging on. No mention of any screw hole damage or anything. Thankfully the majority of the damage is in a spot where it does not effect ball roll drastically, but I can see light through the holes (like hollow underneath the art)

Thanks. Chose not to wait on seller to get back to me. Filled a complaint with paypal/ebay. Very curious to see how this proceeds from here. Never thought I would have to do this.

I have filed a complaint and am still trying to make contact with the seller. I do wish I had bought Av8's BSD, but wasn't in the market at the time.

Sucks because I had already bought Flippper Fidelity setup, LEDs, and really wanted to restore to very nice condition. This pin is very nice except the holes above the flipper mechs. I know I could get it working, but just pissed someone could so obviously mislead someone. Literally maybe 1 screw per assembly grabs the wood of the playfield. The others either will not stay in the holes or just look like they are in, but have no grab whatsoever. The two screw holes above the insert between flippers are really bad. Light shines through the holes, almost hollow.

I want to leave negative feedback, but want to wait till this plays out first. Wouldnt mind a return to seller, but since I have already spent 350 for shipping, don't really want to eat another 350.

Yes. As it stands right now the seller has agreed to refund $500 or I can send it back. I like this game, but would not have paid 1500 for it. I also don't want to spend another 350 to get it back to him and have nothing.

I am leaning towards closing the deal w/ the 500 refund vs. relying on Ebay/Paypal to broker the deal. I just want to get this behind me and with the case closed, at least I can get to try and fix this thing. Pretty sure I can get the assemblies tight and secure. Some of the smaller holes should be easy to fill and touch up. My biggest concern is the 2 above the center insert. Very hollow and raised up. I think I will clamp a board to top of playfield above damage so I can backfill and hopefully get it to dry mostly flat.

The cab is nice, but not perfect. Fadeon one side was restored with marker (I think) and clearcoated. I can make it alot better IMO. The actual cabinet is very nice. The inside is clean and the back is perfect. The playfield looks good minus the damage. I really don't want to do a full tear down at this point or sink a considerable more amount of $ into it.

With the refund and my shipping I will be around 1750 into it. I had 2 pins shipped for 460, so 230 a pin. Sharkey's Shootout is actually pretty fun and was not misrepresented, so not quite as bad if I had only shipped 1 pin.

I plan on taking lots of pictures to show my results, good or bad. Recently I have had only newer Sterns, so it is somewhat cool to have a pin to tinker with again.

If we don't resolve in 7 days, Ebay resolves for us. Not totally sure I want to go that route. If I send back, my cost. I will be in for $600 minimum with nothing to show. If nothing else, this will just be a hard lesson learned. I'm still hoping to make the best of it though.

Not at all. I want to share my dilemma so others don't get burnt down the road, or at least know what to expect if they do dispute a transaction.