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BSD Check F114 & F115 message after doing something potentially stupid

By blazingsaddlz

3 years ago


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#5 3 years ago

You can just disconnect power to the MPU at J210. If F114 and F115 do not blow, then it should be an issue on the MPU.

Then do a resistance test, with power off on the game, on U20 across pins 9 and 10. If this is below 1 meg ohm, U20 is toast.

#7 3 years ago
Quoted from blazingsaddlz:

10. Are those the two that are farthest to the left on the U20 chip? If so, I get a reading of 0 when I set my DMM to 20M ohms. If it is bad, thankfully it's socketed on the rottendog board

Yes. Sounds shorted.

I have to do some looking into the other issue since that is not ringing a bell with the other 2 fuses other than I think you may have to disconnect the ribbon cables from the CPU board, not just the J210. Sorry.

#10 3 years ago

You were looking to see of F114 and F115 were blowing.

Can you replace U20 and reconnect everything?

#12 3 years ago

The F104 and F105 may been because I did not tell you to pull the short ribbon cable off between the MPU and driver board sending false highs over to enable the coils that caused the F104 and F105 fuses to blow.

#16 3 years ago
Quoted from blazingsaddlz:

I think you're right about this. But it still makes me wonder why they blew when I was checking pin 2 of J114 when going through the pinwiki troubleshooting steps here https://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Williams_WPC#Check_fuses_F114_and_F115_message
The errors I'm getting now are entirely different than what I was getting at the beginning.

Do they any fuses blow with J210 plugged in with U20 removed? This will be a better test.

#19 3 years ago

Excellent news so far.

#22 3 years ago

Seems a good time to test the MPU switch inputs.

After putting the game into the switch edge test, unplug J206 to J209. Then jumper from J209 pin 1 to J207 pin1, 2, 3 to.8. If they register, then J209 pin 2 to J207 pin 1, 2 3 to 8. Want to do this for all the switches shown in the switch matrix chart. This will determine if it is a MPU board or not.

#25 3 years ago
Quoted from blazingsaddlz:

I'm guessing that J206 and J207 are interchangeable. My cord was plugged into J206, but the switch matrix in the manual lists J207.

Quoted from

Yes. You can see the traces from J206 pin 1 to J207 pin 1, etc. Same with J208 and J209.

#26 3 years ago

I am glad it looks like the CPU tests good.

There is a big 7-opto board with at least 4 connectors going to it mounted on the underside of the playfield. Can you remove that board to see whether the vertical mounted capacitor looks like it is wet underneath it? That is a sign it is leaking and is bad. Also look under the C2 on the driver board, which is on the left side of the board, to see if has been leaking.

#32 3 years ago
Quoted from Banker:

Having similar issues

Best to start a new repair thread. Include any work that was done previously to.the gamre failing and picture of the MPU.

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