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Brobra’s Pinball Adventures Thread


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#1 37 days ago

Post your spoils and epic Adventures here.
This thread is a free for all to discuss anything pinball and make general banter, especially for my regional mates in the upper Midwest; MN, IA, ND, SD, WI. Promote your business, Buy/Sell/Flip games, restoration, pinball repair, general pinball questions, discuss new and old games. I like to post, banter, debate and discuss all things pinball, and feel it’s appropriate to move this off my region sales thread, as this kind of banter may be off topic or annoying to some. So, if you get annoyed, tune this one out, and move along. I ask that you be respectful, debate vigorously, agree to disagree and keep this thread fun and engaging.

#3 37 days ago

So tonight I want to talk about what Led Zeppelin could have been. I’m a 90s Bally/WMS/Midway loyalist. As a game developer with over 20 years experience, I’m a huge fan of game mechanics and innovative features. As an inventor with invention credits on over 30 issues patents, I love this kind of creative invention.
Here’s some features I have found innovative from past games:
TZ - magent in the spiral, mini playfield with magnet flippers, gumball machine.
MM- pop up trolls
NGG - slam ramp
Shadow- flipper driven ramp diverter s.
These are a few.

With LED zep it would have been cool if the blimp levitated and shook. I would have liked to seen some sort of mech to shot the ball at the Zepplin with a special ramp and register hits. I would have like to seen some mechanic based around stairway to heaven, like steps on an elevator to access ramps or shots, or some show around this.
I’m open to what others think about features and game design. I feel like innovation has stalled on some games and really want to be wowed again.

#4 37 days ago

Zildjian spinners would have been cool.
A video screen to show band footage would be awesome.
Maybe different album artwork.
Some sort of narrative built around the mystique or mythology of Led Zep.
Animatronic characters, band members, iconic song characters and props, etc.

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#5 37 days ago

I would have made the Hindenburg sink and "catch fire"

Oh, the humanity.....

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#6 37 days ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I would have made the Hindenburg sink and "catch fire"
Oh, the humanity.....[quoted image]

Great for sure.

I would have like to seen the elevator in the middle house the blimp and reveal a stairway for each ball lock. Each ball locked gets magnetized to the stair, and when 3 or 4 balls are locked, we get to kick off the multiball and make that baby burn baby burn.

Perhaps a mini slam ramp appears and you launch balls at the Zepplin, or you launch balls through different holes or levels in the stairs. The possibilities are endless.

#7 37 days ago

Anyone think houses of the holy could have been good for glass or side art? Or not rely on album art compositions and make something new?

I challenge some good concept artists out there to post a good comp.

#8 37 days ago

This would be cool. An all digital glass using the Hindenburg which appears on mutliple covers displayed on the glass and updates to reveal the album art for the song that is playing.

Perhaps reinterpreting the original art and creating 3D assets to add life to them and make transitions from one scene to the other.

#9 37 days ago
Quoted from vid1900:

I would have made the Hindenburg sink and "catch fire"
Oh, the humanity.....[quoted image]

The question is how to go about doing this. Could you have two hindenburgs, one intact and one destroyed and do some sort of under playfield swap, or could your use projections and lighting to make one pristine and the other damaged?

Smoke...I would love to the smoke. Have a little smoke emitter built in.
Have an olfactory emitter generating smells. (I saw this on a slot machine once).
Tactile feedback emitters on the flipper buttons to generate buzz.

Come on. The shaker motor has been around since Earthshaker, can’t we push the envelope further?

#10 37 days ago

By the way, to my old thread, I took my marbles and went elsewhere.

#11 37 days ago

So speaking of game from my favorite era, that are loaded and have superior build quality and toys, I’m listing a TZ for a friend that has over $1500 in mods if you include the lighting kit that was added.
Flaws I’m aware of:
Faded right side
Small ding on upper pf
Dented rails.
Clock works fine at start up and checks out. I can go 12 hours without error but after 5 minutes it starts posting errors. I’m going to rebuild it or another I have with spare parts. Or the Ingo clock board can probably
Be bought. If you deduct the mods, you are into a nice TZ at pinside book value. PM me or respond to my ad with interest.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/107341

#12 37 days ago

Also on the hunt for a zac time machine.
I just love mini playfield and killer glass and lights on this game. Over the top Italian engineering and design. Definitely wanted for my personal collection.

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#13 37 days ago
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#14 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

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So how can some of the new games compete with toys like this?
4 flippers
2 fun ramps
Diverter
Gum ball machine
4 magnets (two of which act as flippers)
Mini playfield
A clock that shows the current time.
Subways, scoops
Very good game play
Intuitive
Great art package.

I don’t want pinball to be like skis or bikes; stagnant.

#15 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

So how can some of the new games compete with toys like this?
4 flippers
2 fun ramps
Diverter
Gum ball machine
4 magnets (two of which act as flippers)
Mini playfield
A clock that shows the current time.
Subways, scoops
Very good game play
Intuitive
Great art package.
I don’t want pinball to be like skis or bikes; stagnant.

I am curious about the last sentence here, do you think skis and bikes haven’t changed or advanced in the last 25 years?

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#16 37 days ago
Quoted from trilogybeer:

I am curious about the last sentence here, do you think skis and bikes haven’t changed or advanced in the last 25 years?

I know skis advanced and the new design was influence by snowboard shaping, but bindings seems similar to what I was skiing on in the 80s.

Bikes, front and rear derailleurs haven’t appeared to change that much. Frame design, seems relatively the same.

So I’ve seen some innovation, but nothing groundbreaking. Maybe carbon components and efforts to make bikes lighter.

With that said, let me know what you’ve seen as a healthy counter to what I’ve said. I’m open.

#17 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

I know skis advanced and the new design was influence by snowboard shaping, but bindings seems similar to what I was skiing on in the 80s.
Bikes, front and rear derailleurs haven’t appeared to change that much. Frame design, seems relatively the same.
So I’ve seen some innovation, but nothing groundbreaking. Maybe carbon components and efforts to make bikes lighter.
With that said, let me know what you’ve seen as a healthy counter to what I’ve said. I’m open.

Geometry on mountain bikes has changed quite a bit ( not even close to what they were 25 years ago) Dropper seats are fairly new .Internal cable routing. Disc brakes .Also most companies have went to just one gear in the front, which might seem like taking away, but I like it. No one needs 21 speeds on a mountain bike.

#18 37 days ago

Alright, those are great points.

1) So what do you think the biggest tech or mechanical advances are in pins over the last 5-10 years.

2) what do you think is lacking?

3) what would you really want to see?

#19 37 days ago

Seems like a fair price for a great game.

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#20 37 days ago

It might seem crazy, but nice examples of this title do command these prices. Guarantee it’s gone in 7 days max.

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#21 37 days ago

Scammer alert.
Someone on Facebook is getting connected with buyers of premium class A games. Sharp scammer, smooth as butter, knows his pins and prices, and gets unsuspecting members to wire him $, then ghosts you.
Please read the how not to get scammed thread, and please buy from reputable pinside members, do your due diligence, and keep your defenses up.

There’s another Craigslist scammer listing free games, and tells you they are on a truck as he was moving. They will try to get you to pay for shipping upfront and just steal like $150-200 per pop, instead of 6-13K.

#22 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

Alright, those are great points.
1) So what do you think the biggest tech or mechanical advances are in pins over the last 5-10 years.
2) what do you think is lacking?
3) what would you really want to see?

In pins, controlled color changing leds was a great advance . If done right a programmer can use different colors to guide the player(show what to shoot for) or change the mood of the game.
What I see as lacking in some games is how the game communicates with a player. If you as a player can't figure out what's going on after about 10 games the game isn't doing a good job of showing what you you need to do.
As for what I'd like to see, I just want great playing games with straight forward rules that make you want to keep hitting the start button.

#23 37 days ago
Quoted from trilogybeer:

As for what I'd like to see, I just want great playing games with straight forward rules that make you want to keep hitting the start button.

Yeah, leading the eye and knowing what to do. That base intuitive quality, is what make me love my kings and queens so much. Basic rule set, but you know the objective.

#24 37 days ago

I have another one of these if someone is looking. PM me if interested. It’s playable but needs work. I’d call it project.

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#25 37 days ago

A few samples from my summer trips.
New York/ New Jersey
Houston, TX
Oklahoma City, OK
Lyons, Co
Kansas City

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#26 37 days ago

I really want a Zaccaria Time Machine. That game is a work of art.

#27 37 days ago

Planes trains and automobiles.
Also shipped my first game on a boat.

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#28 37 days ago

Not sure if any of you Minnesota guys are interested in a 1981 Dedicated Galaga, but have one I put new glass on and cleaned joysticks, so it plays well. Pm me if interested. I may convert to an icade, in which case the board is for sale.

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#29 37 days ago

Here’s the current line up. All my games
are always for sale.

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#30 37 days ago

So these commet teals make white waters look nice. The ramps on this game are fantastic. Insanity falls. Also love the disaster drop orbit shot. I’m always open for a nice white water.

Also want to shout out to Pinball Bulbs. A local pinside turned me on to them, and they’re the most reasonable good LEDs around.

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#31 37 days ago

I'd be interested in your KISS. Is that a premium? I wouldn't have the pinball fund for awhile, though.

#32 37 days ago

Alright, so I’m interested in partnering with some folks locally (MPLS) to make mods.
If the manufacturers won’t invest in toys, the players will. I need access to the latest and greatest games. Hit me up with serious inquiries. I’m a seasoned game developer and artist/animator, 3D modeler, and know my around pins. Not the best tech but getting better and love learning.
First item, fix Zepplin.

#33 37 days ago

Hey Chris, that one’s in Colorado. She’s long gone, but I can poke around and put you directly in touch with the owner if it’s still available. I get out of the middle friends.

#34 37 days ago

So anyone into mushrooms!?
They don’t mix with pins. Look how torched these babies are.

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#35 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

So anyone into mushrooms!?
They don’t mix with pins. Look how torched these babies are.

These came off a home use only TZ.
Home use don’t mean ah!t.
It’s all about condition. Period.

#36 37 days ago

Speaking of TZ
I just calculated that all the mods added up to $1250 on my FS TZ, add the lighting kit and it’s $1500. So back off 7800 and you are into a TZ under book. How this game hasn’t sold yet, is beyond me.

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#37 37 days ago

I haven't seen the "wires as a post" mod before..... If you haven't already addressed this, now would be as good as time as any.

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#38 37 days ago

Still available...

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#39 37 days ago
Quoted from ralphwiggum:

I haven't seen the "wires as a post" mod before..... If you haven't already addressed this, now would be as good as time as any.[quoted image]

Lol Ralph. Thanks for pointing that out. My buddy put most of the mods on it, and I’ve corrected a couple mistakes. That’s first on my list today. I appreciate you pointing that out.

#40 37 days ago
Quoted from bangerjay:

Still available...
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Thanks Jay. I’m angling for a few games down your way. It can’t promise anything, until I get reloaded, but I’ll be the first to ping you if I’m down there and ready to rock. That game is so awesome.

So do you think i could carve a wood block and address the lower right head ding?. I’d like that cabinet head to be nicer.

#41 37 days ago

I have a spare TZ clock board. I’m going to try to fix it today and address the post wires Ralph mentioned. My current TZ clock works perfectly at boot but after about 10 minutes it starts to error out. The 30 min opto reads closed. I’m wondering if the heat generated causes the flakiness to manifest itself. Any thoughts from my expert tech friends?

#42 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

I have a spare TZ clock board. I’m going to try to fix it today and address the post wires Ralph mentioned. My current TZ clock works perfectly at boot but after about 10 minutes it starts to error out. The 30 min opto reads closed. I’m wondering if the heat generated causes the flakiness to manifest itself. Any thoughts from my expert tech friends?

There are many threads on Pinside about clock repair. They are what I used when my gave me issues.

#43 37 days ago

So I was a slot guy for a long time. This title I thought would never work. Boy, was I wrong. Turned out to be the highest testing “for sale” slot at the time.
I actually think it would make a sweet pinball title.
This is lobstermania 2, the sequel to the third game I made. I designed the math model, did a lot of the production and artwork, of course with a stellar and bright minded team. Can’t take all the credit, but I definitely was a force on it.

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#44 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

1981 Dedicated Galaga, but have one I put new glass on and cleaned joysticks

What's the deal with the Multicade bezel?

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#45 37 days ago
Quoted from YeOldPinPlayer:

What's the deal with the Multicade bezel?
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The Galaga screened glass bezel was torched. I still have it, but grabbed the only spare bezel I didn’t like and threw it on there. I’m thinking about buying the Galaga repro bezel for $60 online.
I was thinking of converting the game to an icade or maybe more, but will need new 4 way joysticks and some jamma harness/adapters.
Part of me thinks it has more value just staying dedicated Galaga. What do you think?

#46 37 days ago

So I like to flip games. I like the hunt, the drive, the people I meet, and I like to clean up games and make them work well. I found I like working with my hands and solving problems and learning.
I need advice about how to go about this with out being perceived as d!ck. I’m trying to offer a decent value by passing off clean games that work. But I put a lot of time and money into it; gas, parts, etc, and I don’t work for free.

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#47 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

So I like to flip games. I like the hunt, the drive, the people I meet, and I like to clean up games and make them work well. I found I like working with my hands and solving problems and learning.
I need advice about how to go about this with out being perceived as d!ck. I’m trying to offer a decent value by passing off clean games that work. But I put a lot of time and money into it; gas, parts, etc, and I don’t work for free.

Here's my 2 cents since you are asking for it. Don't pretend to be something you are not. I don't think that will be an issue, as you seem to be a pretty honest person, but that being said, what exactly are you? You aren't a hobbyist, this is clearly a business for you. That is fine, but a lot of people on this site are hobbyists. Identify yourself as a business, in a more official manner, and people will treat you more accordingly.

When your prices are higher than others, or your forum activity is almost completely comprised of For Sale and Wanted to buy posts, people are more accepting of it when they know you need to do this to live on, and that this is what you do for a living. You present your Facebook page as a business, similar presentation here would be a better thing to make things smoother for you.

Hobbyists don't care about your perceived value you are bringing to the table when many of us bring the same value without passing all of the additional cost to the buyer. Hobbyists typically sell to other hobbyists, and not usually to businesses, so you may have to get a little creative in sourcing your pins.

Good luck with your endeavors. I really enjoy pinball, but would hate it in 5 seconds flat if I needed to do it for a living. I am glad you have the fire clearly burning inside you.

#48 37 days ago

I think you need to find better deals so your final price can be reduced. Not trying to price police but $4500 for a NGG is a little high. I love the game, owned it twice (for $3100 and $3500 and sold them for the same price) but would take any used Stern for a little bit more. A SW Pro just sold for $4200 in Apple Valley. Probably gotta figure out the max you can sell a game for, in a reasonable amount of time before you buy it and figure in travel/lodging/gas before hand. I know I'd have a tough time paying above retail prices on used games without any warranty or any buying confidence.

#49 37 days ago
Quoted from brobra:

Part of me thinks it has more value just staying dedicated Galaga. What do you think?

I don't know the market so my opinion on the value is uninformed. Personally, I have no attachment to playing 'the original'. Emulators and the like are acceptable to me in every case I know of. A machine that plays dozens or hundreds of games is preferable to me.

Small tangent- Vindicators used a very unusual control set. https://www.arcade-museum.com/game_detail.php?game_id=10319
It's a tank game and although KLOV says it has two-way joysticks I think I remember you could push the sticks towards one another to make your tank stand up and pull them away from one another to go back to moving around. Anyone made a sort of universal control panel for tank games?

#50 37 days ago

Ralph and Jake,
Thank you. I think you both offered me great advice.
Yeah, I probably bought gophers too high.
With that said, I’d move on the price to say 4200, but I can’t justify more than that. Weren’t many made, and it’s fun, but yeah, I’m scrambling right now. Not playing tight. And right is right.

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