Brilliant new Pop Bumper LEDs w/ Flashing Centers

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Brilliant new Pop Bumper LEDs w/ Flashing Centers


By calico1997

3 years ago



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    #1 3 years ago

    I've just now put together these neat little devices - Printed Circuit Boards with 40 LEDs; side fire on the top perimiter to send light into the pop bumper cap; underside to light the play field; and a ring of center LEDs that can be set to "flash react" with ball strikes based on vibration or to just stay on. Brightness is also adjustable. These come in a variety of colors and just plug-in with no wires, no glue. I love modding with LEDs and was never happy with single LEDs for pop bumpers. These white circuit boards sort of "glow" from the LEDs and can be used with existing caps or clear caps.

    I've put more information on the following link:

    http://www.britemods.com/britecaps--evo.html

    Note - these circuit boards do add about 5 mm hight to the pop bumper. Not recommended for very tight spaces or where pop bumper caps are "cut into partials" on some games.

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    #2 3 years ago

    Here is also a video demo link that shows the center LEDs with motion sensing "Flash React".

    #3 3 years ago

    Look pretty nice Calico.

    Keith

    #4 3 years ago

    Are these the same pop bumper caps advertised on the Lock Is Lit podcast from a week or so ago?

    #5 3 years ago

    No, these are not related to the Lock Is Lit podcast.

    #7 3 years ago

    Forgot to mention...

    the power consumption is essentially no higher than a traditional 555 light bulb. Even less if you turn the brightness down. It depends a bit on the color tested. I measure between 0.15 and 0.26 amps.

    #8 3 years ago

    It's funny, every time I see one of these new pop bumper lighting posts I'm reminded that I don't own a single game with these "traditional" pops. None on Shadow, the tall ones on Elvira, the mini tower ones on Scared Stiff, the stupid ones on Tron, and then the new style mini domes on Star Trek (though I really need to install Zitt's pops) and Metallica.

    They look cool even if they don't fit my games though.

    #9 3 years ago

    Very nicely done.

    #10 3 years ago

    Very cool Calico, especially like the motion sensing.

    #11 3 years ago

    AWESOME!!!!
    Are the underside LEDs the same color as the topside or just white?
    I hope they are colored on top and white below.

    Now you need to add a "chaser" circuit to be Uber Sweet!

    #12 3 years ago

    I really want to like all these new brighter pops things, but they really need diffusion for me, rather than a bunch of bright points.

    Edit: When someone makes these I'm in - https://forum-s3.pinside.com/201307/1010635/118935.png

    #13 3 years ago
    Quoted from epthegeek:

    I really want to like all these new brighter pops things, but they really need diffusion for me, rather than a bunch of bright points.

    I like the bright points around the perimeter, but agree the center should be diffused. Easily done tho.

    #14 3 years ago
    Quoted from zippydapinhead:

    AWESOME!!!!
    Are the underside LEDs the same color as the topside or just white?
    I hope they are colored on top and white below.
    Now you need to add a "chaser" circuit to be Uber Sweet!

    Thanks for your comments. All underside LEDs are white. Also the top side perimeter LEDs are side fire so it is really not as bright as it looks in the pictures. Any camera I've tried always makes LEDs look like super bright pinpoints but they are much better in real life. Also the brightness is fully adjusable on the upper and lower perimeter LEDs.

    #15 3 years ago
    Quoted from zippydapinhead:

    Are the underside LEDs the same color as the topside or just white?

    Quoted from calico1997:

    All underside LEDs are white.

    Nice!
    Price?

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    #17 3 years ago

    I love these, I'm about to order some for my bride of pinbot. , i'd love to put these in my space station also, but the extra 5 mm will not allow it, is there a possibility you could create these without the outer ring??? I absolutely love the flasher action!!!

    #18 3 years ago

    Very cool, love the flashing center.

    #19 3 years ago
    Quoted from Chosen_S:

    I love these, I'm about to order some for my bride of pinbot. , i'd love to put these in my space station also, but the extra 5 mm will not allow it, is there a possibility you could create these without the outer ring??? I absolutely love the flasher action!!!

    I just ordered one for my F-14 yesterday, I never thought of my BOP!

    #20 3 years ago
    Quoted from Chosen_S:

    I love these, I'm about to order some for my Bride of Pinbot. , i'd love to put these in my Space Station also, but the extra 5 mm will not allow it, is there a possibility you could create these without the outer ring??? I absolutely love the flasher action!!!

    Not a bad idea! Are you saying that the outer diameter of the lights, being 70mm diameter, are too large? Does Space Station require a wedge socket or a bayonet socket?

    #21 3 years ago
    Quoted from calico1997:

    Not a bad idea! Are you saying that the outer diameter of the lights, being 70mm diameter, are too large? Does Space Station require a wedge socket or a bayonet socket?

    One of the space station pops has a cutout and is really close to a ramp, so my thought is, if you could make a version that does not have the ring on the outside, it would fit, not to mention, I'm not a big fan on the outer ring leds, some folks love them, some folks don't. If you made it with out the outer ring, and still had the flash when hit function, it would be a solid contender with cointakers afterburner.

    The space station pop bumper takes a 555

    Btw... I have 3 pins I would buy these for right away if they were made. I know I'm a small drop in the bucket, but those of us that desire the flash when hit action, but don't favor the ufo look on the outer leds will certainly see value in your idea and design

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    #22 3 years ago
    Quoted from Geocab:

    I just ordered one for my F-14 yesterday, I never thought of my BOP!

    20150307_192705.jpgInstalled today. Not sure if I like it or not. The following probably applies only my situation:

    I think I should have ordered cool or warm white instead of red and let the bumper cap do the color work, doesn't match the color of my inserts and it's noticeable to me.

    I wish the bottom had a separate adjustment from the top so I can make the bottom level a little brighter, but keep the top on the dimmer side.

    My flash isn't very bright. If I manually push the button up it is brighter so maybe my ring isn't popping up far enough?

    I may not be used to having light because my pop bumper has been dark for many months so the change might just be too much of a shock right now and my opinion could move up after a few days this installed.

    #23 3 years ago
    Quoted from Geocab:

    Installed today. Not sure if I like it or not. The following probably applies only my situation:
    I think I should have ordered cool or warm white instead of red and let the bumper cap do the color work, doesn't match the color of my inserts and it's noticeable to me.
    I wish the bottom had a separate adjustment from the top so I can make the bottom level a little brighter, but keep the top on the dimmer side.
    My flash isn't very bright. If I manually push the button up it is brighter so maybe my ring isn't popping up far enough?
    I may not be used to having light because my pop bumper has been dark for many months so the change might just be too much of a shock right now and my opinion could move up after a few days this installed.

    Hi Geocab,

    Thanks for your input. The flashing / blinking centers are midrange LEDs because some people didn't want the center light so bright as to be annoying or distracting. But you can adjust the contrast between them by turning the brightness of the perimeter lights down with the adjustment screw. Then they will be less bright and the center LEDs will flash a little brighter.
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    #24 3 years ago

    There was a question about cool and warm whites. Here's a couple pictures for just comparison sake - with and without a pop bumper cap.

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    #25 3 years ago

    Hm. I have been against the BriteCaps since they were announced because of the in-the-faceness of the design, but I was not aware the LEDs were side facing on there.. that's interesting. If anyone is bringing a game to TPF with these EVOs installed, I'd really like to see it in person. Someone shoot me a message if you see this and are!

    #26 3 years ago

    Yes, and the brightness is adjustable. Unfortunately the photos taken in the dark make them look really bright but if I shine a light on them, you can see the side fire LEDs with the brightness set to minimum...close up view enclosed.

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    #27 3 years ago

    I would like these better if there was a way to defuse the circus look? Nice work?

    #28 3 years ago

    One diffusion option are the jeweled caps available from Pinball Life. Here's a red with the center LEDs switched to flash mode and then with them on and flashing.

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    #29 3 years ago

    I installed these in avatar yesterday. Amazing product.

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    #30 3 years ago
    Quoted from Geocab:

    Installed today. Not sure if I like it or not. The following probably applies only my situation:
    I think I should have ordered cool or warm white instead of red and let the bumper cap do the color work, doesn't match the color of my inserts and it's noticeable to me.
    I wish the bottom had a separate adjustment from the top so I can make the bottom level a little brighter, but keep the top on the dimmer side.
    My flash isn't very bright. If I manually push the button up it is brighter so maybe my ring isn't popping up far enough?
    I may not be used to having light because my pop bumper has been dark for many months so the change might just be too much of a shock right now and my opinion could move up after a few days this installed.

    white leds would not have mattered chances are the cap is a different red than the inserts.

    #31 3 years ago

    Will these fit modern sterns like MET, ACDC , ST..etc ?

    #32 3 years ago
    Quoted from coasterguy:

    I installed these in avatar yesterday. Amazing product.

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    That looks really good. Matches the rest of your lighting very well.

    #33 3 years ago

    I'd love to adapt these to work with hooked's metal metallica bumper caps (just the underlighting)

    #34 3 years ago
    Quoted from Geocab:

    That looks really good. Matches the rest of your lighting very well.

    Thanks. I was stepping back from too much blue and making it look more the night scenes in the movie. Im happy with the result.

    #35 3 years ago
    Quoted from coasterguy:

    Thanks. I was stepping back from too much blue and making it look more the night scenes in the movie. Im happy with the result.

    Yep looks good. Took me about 5 seconds to figure out why on earth you had those colors.

    #36 3 years ago

    Can you adjust the outside lights to turn all the way off or really dim? I would like only the center lights to go off when activated. If you dim the outside lights, do you dim the center lights also at the same time?

    #37 3 years ago

    Yes they dim and the center ring had a button on all the time or on flash with action. Make sure you don't oress the button as your tightening down. Lol. I did...

    #38 3 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Yep looks good. Took me about 5 seconds to figure out why on earth you had those colors.

    I added teal lit outposts and sky blue and blue gi. I'm doing a teal ish display with xpin gels which someone else has done on pinside.

    #39 3 years ago
    Quoted from calico1997:

    Hi Geocab,
    Thanks for your input. The flashing / blinking centers are midrange LEDs because some people didn't want the center light so bright as to be annoying or distracting. But you can adjust the contrast between them by turning the brightness of the perimeter lights down with the adjustment screw. Then they will be less bright and the center LEDs will flash a little brighter.
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    My center lights not being that bright I believe is a mechanical issue. If I stick my finger under the cap while it's installed and push the button the center lights are a lot brighter than when set off with pop bumper action.

    I don't think the Evo is broken, just at the moment not compatible with my set up. I did some other work on my machines yesterday and haven't had time to get back to exploring what nay be happening.

    Also, could you post a photo of the cool and warm whites with a red bumper cap, instead of the purple?

    #40 3 years ago
    Quoted from modfather:

    Will these fit modern sterns like MET, ACDC , ST..etc ?

    Yes - in fact the prototypes were developed on Stern's Walking Dead. Just make sure there's enough room for a full sized pop bumper cap where the pop bumper(s) are located.

    #41 3 years ago
    Quoted from holmstarrunner:

    Can you adjust the outside lights to turn all the way off or really dim? I would like only the center lights to go off when activated. If you dim the outside lights, do you dim the center lights also at the same time?

    Yes, the outer perimeter lights can be dimmed from 100% power all the way down to "off". That leaves the center lights that can be set to either remain on all the time or flash upon pop bumper vibration using the switch on the underside of the circuit board. The dimmer does not affect the center lights.

    #42 3 years ago

    Per request from Geocab, here's the cool white and warm white and then the red LEDs in that order, with a red pop bumper cap. Of course the camera on my IPAD does not capture the true color correctly. I'd say the warm white gives the most natural pinball lighting as intended by the designers. The cool works better if you want the whole pinball machine to have cool colors. But the cool does overpower the cap color a bit and actually appears a little "orangish" in the photo. The red LEDs in the red cap have little benefit, but if your old caps are faded, then they do boost the color a bit. A brand new cap is used in these pictures.

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    #43 3 years ago
    Quoted from coasterguy:

    Yes they dim and the center ring had a button on all the time or on flash with action. Make sure you don't oress the button as your tightening down. Lol. I did...

    Here's a photo of what they look like if you adjust the outer lights to off and just use the center lights.

    These can flash or stay on continuously.

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    #44 3 years ago

    I might have to try these on my F-14 and T2. I think the flash reaction would look great.

    #45 3 years ago

    Is it me or do the cool look warm and the warm look cool? Lol

    #46 3 years ago

    Thanks for the extra photos Calico.

    #47 3 years ago
    Quoted from coasterguy:

    Is it me or do the cool look warm and the warm look cool? Lol

    It's you, I think. To me his picture of the cool LEDs makes the cap look more "orange", which sounds about right.. I've had cool frosted LEDs under red lane guides before, was the same deal. Looked awful lol.

    #48 3 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    It's you, I think. To me his picture of the cool LEDs makes the cap look more "orange", which sounds about right.. I've had cool frosted LEDs under red lane guides before, was the same deal. Looked awful lol.

    I thought that was weird as well. But the cool LEDs are so bright that they do wash out some of the red and make it look a little bit orange. It's not a dramatic in real life but the photos make it look that way.

    #49 3 years ago

    I just installed 3 in bop, one of them will not react to flash, is there a fix to this?

    I guess I can't say it won't react completely, it reacts about every 20 times or so

    #50 3 years ago
    Quoted from Chosen_S:

    I just installed 3 in bop, one of them will not react to flash, is there a fix to this?
    I guess I can't say it won't react completely, it reacts about every 20 times or so

    How do they look otherwise? I have a BOP and was curious.

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