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Bride of Pinbot Playfield Swap

By dmacy

6 months ago


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#1 6 months ago

Documenting Matt’s MattG The Machine: Bride of Pinbot playfield swap. It’s a nice original Mylar but getting a new Buthamburg playfield. It will get new ramps, upper playfield, faces, playfield protector, Cliffy’s and plastics. He already has rings and LED’s so will be a pretty simple like for like swap that will get cleaned along the way.

Some before pics:

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#2 6 months ago

Pics before tear down.

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#3 6 months ago

Top side cleared. Bottom side…:

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#4 6 months ago

Nearly cleared.

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#5 6 months ago

Top side posts:

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#6 6 months ago

Post sizes. Playfield is cleared!

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#7 6 months ago

Ran short of 8-32 t nuts but here’s the full count needed:

21 8-32 t nuts
6 6-32 t nuts

New playfield ready to go.

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#8 6 months ago

Following!

#9 6 months ago

Following as well! I have a similar looking playfield, though it doesn't have as much wear. I'm still interested in the PF swap process though since I've never done one before!

#10 6 months ago

Ok, I’ll try and spend some time on prepping the playfield. I haven’t been showing that process as much as I have shown on other swaps I’ve done over the years.

There’s quite a lot going on on this playfield. I’ll admit I’m not a Pinbot guy so rarely play the trifecta. So I was surprised just how much is going on here.

#11 6 months ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Ok, I’ll try and spend some time on prepping the playfield. I haven’t been showing that process as much as I have shown on other swaps I’ve done over the years.
There’s quite a lot going on on this playfield. I’ll admit I’m not a Pinbot guy so rarely play the trifecta. So I was surprised just how much is going on here.

Would appreciate. I’ve done a swap on a Whirlwind and I also have a bride. While the playfield is far from trashed, it’s planked pretty good as it didn’t have any Mylar on main area except for the heart inserts.

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#12 6 months ago

Will do. Let me know if there is anything I need to document.

#13 6 months ago

Hello, my Bride of Pinbot no longer keep the settings , high scores and other. Each time i turn of the pinball machine all the settings disappear, and return to factory settings. What can be the problem? Sorry for the off topic.

#14 6 months ago
Quoted from Days:

Hello, my Bride of Pinbot no longer keep the settings , high scores and other. Each time i turn of the pinball machine all the settings disappear, and return to factory settings. What can be the problem? Sorry for the off topic.

Dead batteries most likely. Check to make sure no alkaline damage

#15 6 months ago

Following. I have a Buthamburg playfield, but no BOP to put it in. I would like to do a swap if I can ever find a game to put it in. BOP and the rest of the trilogy are my favorite pins!!

#16 6 months ago

Following as well. You are doing a great job documenting it. Started my swap 3 days ago. I'm taking a ton of photos also. I do about 10 swaps a year. Keeps me busy.

#17 6 months ago

Just found this "Easter Egg" in the Bride swap I am doing for someone. My best guess is they had a cabinet they couldn't use and decided to recycle the wood.

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#18 6 months ago

That’s cool! I’ve seen a few that they do that. Even Arcade cabs and vice versa.

#19 6 months ago

Here’s how I prep holes before attaching any screw. I use Ron kruzman clear kit.

I find the proper bit and drill into hole until the opened hole is a hair bigger than the screw going in. Blow out the hole. Use his glue from the kit. He includes syringes however I have been using pipet. Just easier for me.

Let dry a few minutes and ready to go!

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#20 6 months ago

The mechanism are taken apart for ultrasonic and tumbling.

Flippers had brass sleeves. Obviously not original.

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#21 6 months ago

Hey you with the face! Sorry, wrong game.

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#22 6 months ago

Not much done as either parts are drying or waiting to be out of tumbler.

Random pics of my truck after lowering the front this afternoon.

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#23 6 months ago

Peters playfields are outstanding! I have one of his first runs of this title on mine. Has held up wonderfully

#24 6 months ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

Peters playfields are outstanding! I have one of his first runs of this title on mine. Has held up wonderfully

I have a first run Getaway and agree it has held up great.

#25 6 months ago

Another example of prepping for the wire ball guides in order.

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#26 6 months ago

Wire ball guides installed…

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#27 6 months ago

Looks awesome.

That would really make me nervous since the wire guides do not hide the hole at all (like a starpost would), it has to look perfect.

I have my Buthamburg BOP playfield still in a box. So this thread is an awesome preview of the things I have to do.

Keep the updates coming!

#28 6 months ago

It’s not really bad or hard at all. If this dummy can do it, anyone can. Just take your time and practice your first up higher at the pops where it won’t be so noticeable. The key is to get the hold taper at top with the dremel bit. And to not use a drill bit the exact size. Next size smaller so the guidd can still “bite” into the wood. Slow taps with the hammer as you don’t want the ball guide to blow out the bottom.

#29 6 months ago

Progress for the day.

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#30 6 months ago
Quoted from dmacy:

It’s not really bad or hard at all. If this dummy can do it, anyone can. Just take your time and practice your first up higher at the pops where it won’t be so noticeable. The key is to get the hold taper at top with the dremel bit. And to not use a drill bit the exact size. Next size smaller so the guidd can still “bite” into the wood. Slow taps with the hammer as you don’t want the ball guide to blow out the bottom.

That’s really the only part I am worried about, drilling holes properly/in correct spot and not cracking the clear.

#31 6 months ago

For the last picture above, any tips on how you hammered in those pop bumper nails/screws that are for the underside coil bracket? Did you just hammer them in?

#32 6 months ago
Quoted from kevmad:

For the last picture above, any tips on how you hammered in those pop bumper nails/screws that are for the underside coil bracket? Did you just hammer them in?

Hey sorry yes good call and didn’t cover it on this swap. Use the guide Ron included with his kit to measure the stud. Use a drill bit a hair smaller than the area that will bite into the wood. I prefer the twist shank personally. Then use a nail setter to tap in. I also make sure to use a countersink bit so the heads are flush with the playfield. Follow up with the glue on the drilled edges of the hole.

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#33 6 months ago

The supervisor checking out the work.

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#34 6 months ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Hey sorry yes good call and didn’t cover it on this swap. Use the guide Ron included with his kit to measure the stud. Use a drill bit a hair smaller than the area that will bite into the wood. I prefer the twist shank personally. Then use a nail setter to tap in. I also make sure to use a countersink bit so the heads are flush with the playfield. Follow up with the glue on the drilled edges of the hole.[quoted image]

If your supervisor will permit me to ask more questions - what do you mean by twist shank? Can you provide more pics to clarify? Do you know the part number I would need to buy from Marco? Sorry I'm being dense, just haven't done it before.

#35 6 months ago

She's sleeping still, so I think you're safe for asking questions. You can pound your old ones out but I replace with new on swaps I do for myself or others. Same with T nuts. The spiral is the style I prefer but it's personal preference.

Spiral Fin Shank:
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/237-5957-00

Fin Shank (out of stock):
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/237-5883-00

#36 6 months ago

Good to know...Thanks!

#37 6 months ago

I have never got any feed back on that hole sizer in the install kit, but I use it so often, I included it for that reason alone.
On those pop bumper lugs (I call the nail-screws lugs) I replace the fin style with the barbed style, and just like you, I predrill 2 different diameter predrills first.
If you use the fin style I have learned to remove all of the clear in the area, for the fin will cause a crack or split in your clear.

That install kit is perfect for the stock pfs like you are doing. For a production clear peter does a great job! I also like his work, but there is enough clear down that you dont want to thread thru it, or have the threads of a screw pulling up on it.

I thin that glue out so it will wick in to the wood in 2 sec. The antidote is acetone if you spill any.

I love all 3 of the pinbots. I am the odd man out that likes jack bot the most, and bride the least. That doesnt mean I dont love bride, especially the call outs.

Looking forward to see how this one goes. Lots of custom parts that are only on this pf,

#38 6 months ago
Quoted from kruzman:

I have never got any feed back on that hole sizer in the install kit, but I use it so often, I included it for that reason alone.
On those pop bumper lugs (I call the nail-screws lugs) I replace the fin style with the barbed style, and just like you, I predrill 2 different diameter predrills first.
If you use the fin style I have learned to remove all of the clear in the area, for the fin will cause a crack or split in your clear.
That install kit is perfect for the stock pfs like you are doing. For a production clear peter does a great job! I also like his work, but there is enough clear down that you dont want to thread thru it, or have the threads of a screw pulling up on it.
I thin that glue out so it will wick in to the wood in 2 sec. The antidote is acetone if you spill any.
I love all 3 of the pinbots. I am the odd man out that likes jack bot the most, and bride the least. That doesnt mean I dont love bride, especially the call outs.
Looking forward to see how this one goes. Lots of custom parts that are only on this pf,

Curious if you’ve ever played BOP 2.0 ?

#39 6 months ago
Quoted from mollyspub:

Curious if you’ve ever played BOP 2.0 ?

I have not, but I would love to from what I have heard. That would be great if they add to other games. On my system 1 dragon. I got a pascal mpu and it added a skill shot, ball save, and other stuff with no change in hardware. I have heard cactus canyon and bride 2,0. are there any others that are being upgraded?

#40 6 months ago
#41 6 months ago

Is it great? Its got the potential for sure!

#42 6 months ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Is it great? Its got the potential for sure!

I don’t know as I haven’t played yet but I’m liking the idea. I was supposed to do a swap on two with the 2.0 but I’m so behind I’m not sure if they’re still waiting.

#43 6 months ago
Quoted from kruzman:

Is it great? Its got the potential for sure!

Not from what I’ve seen! Haven’t played it but it looks like a big disappointment to me!

#44 6 months ago

Finally back to it. Been busy at work with a manager that retired and the other one promoted. So I’m running around a lot more! Got a great pic of sunrise while running’ and gunnin’ in this morning.

The underside is getting some mechanisms.

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#45 6 months ago

About 3/4 of the posts are installed. Pop bumpers laid in top side. MMMMM BOP!

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#46 6 months ago

Thank you for detailed pics.

I bought a basket case bop. As In needed board work and playfield was stripped.

I got the boards working. Just need to assemble the playfield. Your pics will help a lot.

By any chance you have a shot of how the wiring ran into the head mechanism? Couple ways I see it could go- all seem like it could get snagged by the rotating head.

#47 6 months ago

I will try and get you that when I have wiring ready.

#48 6 months ago
Quoted from dmacy:

Finally back to it. Been busy at work with a manager that retired and the other one promoted. So I’m running around a lot more! Got a great pic of sunrise while running’ and gunnin’ in this morning.
The underside is getting some mechanisms.
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sunrise shot is awesome.
I like that nice custom pf protector you are using. reminds me of the fender protectors a good mechanic will use to keep his zipper from scratching your quarter panel. what is it made of, and did you make it? great idea, and just makes your quality more reliable. its so easy and common to have a pf fall over or something fall on it.

#49 6 months ago

Ball guides regrained. I use a 60 then a 80 grit flap wheel on a drill.

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#50 6 months ago
Quoted from kruzman:

sunrise shot is awesome.
I like that nice custom pf protector you are using. reminds me of the fender protectors a good mechanic will use to keep his zipper from scratching your quarter panel. what is it made of, and did you make it? great idea, and just makes your quality more reliable. its so easy and common to have a pf fall over or something fall on it.

The protectors are nice. I don’t make them but a place in Germany I believe does. The owner uses them on all his games so sent this to be installed. They’re permanent though. I was just laying this down to remind me to not go installing plastics as I’ll have to yank them off again to install it.

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