Hi, need opinion on those two pins, could have one of them for about the same price, not shure which one to take,so I need opinion of they owners or peoples who plays boths,Thanks
Hi, need opinion on those two pins, could have one of them for about the same price, not shure which one to take,so I need opinion of they owners or peoples who plays boths,Thanks
FT is a lot of fun for two or more to have fun with...a perfect bar game. Pretty easy objectives, but not too easy to rack up points on regularly.
BSD is tough and will make you a better player if you can stick with it. Not everyone's cup of tea and not even close to as family friendly and fun-for-all-levels as FT.
BSD can be really frustrating, so while it's the clear choice for most pinheads, and my vote if you're just comparing entertainment value and staying power for more serious players, if you want a game that will be entertaining for casual players/family it's not that clear cut of a decision. Fish Tales has more gimmicks and is an easier play, and especially if you are partial to the theme over Drac it's worth considering.
Poor Bram Stoker...no one ever spells his name right. At least it's not Stroker this time.
Quoted from Kneissl:What EEE said is right on, BSD can be too hard. It's brutal and not very approachable for a new pinballer. FT is also a difficult game, but in general it's much more fun to the casual player
Looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time, Kneissl
I've owned both. FT is still here. But, I have a 3 and 5 year old. BSD is a little too much for kids IMHO.
Quoted from Hawk007:For adults.. Dracula! ..For the whole family FT all the way.
I agree 100 percent
Quoted from movingpictures:No contest, BSD all day every day!
Nuff said ,,, FT is a Cool Pin but it's Not as Hair Rise-N as BSD .. 30 million !!! Own'd mine 4 Yr's & counting
I Can't believe it Out Lasted IM in my GRG .. , but i had 2 Sacrifice 1 .. Most Expensive
I've owned BSD and just currently acquired an FT. BSD is a cool pin, but I have to go with FT. For some reason, in the home environment, BSD wore out quickly for me. I, personally, prefer DW as an Oursler design over BSD too, so that's why DW stayed and BSD went. I think FT will stay for awhile, I've always enjoyed Mark Ritchie pins.
I was thinking about this recently, so instead of creating a new thread I'm going to bump a four year old thread...sorry.
The strategy for huge points in either game is through multiball. Fish Tales (FT) essentially has one multiball where you need to collect three tournament jackpots. Bram Stoker's Dracula (BSD) has three unique multiballs which can be stacked for 20 and 30 million point shots. That adds to the variety of BSD. It's perhaps one of the best multiball progressions in all of pinball. Both seem simple, but are challenging. Basing things simply on multiball, BSD is my clear winner.
So, let's get into other modes. Both games have a video mode that I actually enjoy. I do recommend adjusting the difficulty settings for BSD as the first wave is painfully slow. Given the choice, I'd probably choose shooting jet skiers over wolves, so I'll give a slight edge to FT, but again both modes are well above average. BSD also has Bats and Rats modes, which are identical. Nothing too special. FT has more going on outside of multiball including: Stringer, Stretch the Truth, Feeding Frenzy, Rock The Boat, and Monster Fish. Where BSD is pretty much solely based on multiball, you have more risk reward options for FT. There is a viable strategy to focus on the Stringer and Monster Fish. That will not match a game were Super Jackpots are achieved, but that's a high risk strategy. Basing things simply on modes, FT is my clear winner.
In my opinion both are great games. On either machine, I feel like I'm always a few shots away from having a great game. For that reason, both games really get the adrenaline pumping. It's almost painful to have to choose, but if I could only keep one, it would be Fish Tales.
Quoted from lpeters82:It's almost painful to have to choose, but if I could only keep one, it would be Fish Tales.
You chose... poorly
Both games' multiballs can end as quickly as they started. BSD narrow flippers make trapping up and separating dangerous in itself.
BSD is as imposing as it looks. FT looks like an easy family/kiddie game, but punishes sloppiness all the same. Miss the ramp/captive ball and those rubbers on the posts will send rockets to the center/outlane drains.
Quoted from jfre81:Both games' multiballs can end as quickly as they started. BSD narrow flippers make trapping up and separating dangerous in itself.
That implies that the FT in question isn't using also Lightning Flippers...which of course is a debate raging for years.
Quoted from Turtle:Every FT I've played had Lightning Flippers. This can't be said for BSD - I've found most people put regular flippers on BSD making it easier.
Well we know FT was designed for regular flippers but shipped with Lightnings...but when I was growing up I only saw them with normal size I THINK!
BSD I usually see with Lightning but true I see it more now than I did back then...probably cause of the smaller run.
I'll give BSD a slight edge but they are both pretty much in the same ballpark as far as depth and longevity goes. Toss up for me, really. Both are solid games.
FT would get a slight edge in the depth department I think, it's much tougher to light and score super jackpots than it is to stack all three multiballs on BSD. FT also has more scoring modes.
Quoted from Turtle:Every FT I've played had Lightning Flippers. This can't be said for BSD - I've found most people put regular flippers on BSD making it easier.
Almost every time I play a BSD with full sized flippers on it, I’ll get the Thirty Milllllionnnn callout. Boring. When I get it on my BSD, I’m thrilled because it’s so tough to do.
Quoted from DaveH:Dracula, by miles.
And OMG! I just realized I said this 4 years ago in this thread!
Quoted from DaveH:And OMG! I just realized I said this 4 years ago in this thread!
Thee's nothing wrong with being consistant
Quoted from DaveH:Almost every time I play a BSD with full sized flippers on it, I’ll get the Thirty Milllllionnnn callout. Boring. When I get it on my BSD, I’m thrilled because it’s so tough to do.
Try putting some two inch bats on it and see how often you get Thirty Milllllionnnn......
Quoted from DaveH:You chose... poorly
Yeah, I know I'm in the minority. Thankfully, I don't (currently) have to choose.
PS: I've got lightning flippers on both.
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