Quoted from DNO:That means the winners pay the fee, by taking a slightly smaller prize. It is not cramming it down the casual players throat, or taking their money.
I have no problem with the winner paying the fee to the IFPA. Hell, they can have 100% of the winnings. Josh, where should I mail your Pint/Pitcher of beer each month?
DNO > you continue to not get it... 80% of the events in WI are F R E E to enter. the 20% that are pay to enter are run in private homes for the most part and do payouts (amazingly, those are the ones that are also forcing people to pay the $1 entry fee and have no issue with the change; those are also the events that dont bring in any casuals or completely new people to the scene since you have to be invited to attend)
80% are No entry fee at all. Just show up and play pinball on a week night. Your prize? typically a free drink or pitcher from the bar for them saying thanks for hanging out and drinking on a Wednesday night.
At one point Josh suggested that the operator pay the fee for all 20 people out of the coin drop. That was even funnier.
Typical competitive pinball night is 20 guys. They each spend $5 on pinball, so $100 in coin drop.
minus 5.5 for tax off the top
minus 50% split for the location
That leaves 47.25 for the operator
Now take out the monthly insurance, fees, and maintenance...
You are left with $27. Josh suggests the operator just give the IFPA $20. In other words, he wants 75% of the coin drop from that night to go to the IFPA.
Laughable. Oh yeah... he also wants to make more work for the operator since they need to report and collect and pay money in.
Now DNO, I understand you think you are a top dog and understandably have a decent chance at winning CO to take home some solid money at the end of the year. I can fully understand your desire to support this at the detriment of all the casual and new players that will be feeding your prize pool. Reality is you are defending that you would have paid in only $23 dollar this year and could be walking away with a $2500 prize pool for winning state. I will say that I think it is worth pointing out that factually this little change of "only $1" increases the payout for the top 16 players in a state with almost 500 unique people that would be supporting your SCS prize package. Take away those casual players and there goes your big payout.