I currently have 4 John Borg ((pro)) pins which were ~$4700.

While some might say that's a lopsided tilt in my medium size collection, I love them and would be hard pressed on which one I like the least.

While Borg has designed these great pins, we can't ignore how the rules/art/theme/sound/music/dots (etc.) come together and in how the Pinside community has augmented the sound/music in great ways.

One thing in common is they're somewhat simple (on the pro) not a lot of moving parts, but the simplicity is often an asset and the (often) short games with intense moments and big rewards keep me hitting play and on pinball nights these pins are great for multi player games especially since one single shot can turn the tables in a big way.

Met is probably my favorite. While I am not a master or have not got very deep into the back side of the rules. I just love the shots (ramps and loops) as well as the fun in line drop targets, the simple yet elegant captive ball and snake toys. I love the theme, music, rules etc..

Tron not be as intense but is very smooth and the sound/music go along with the rules and love the way SOS is attainable leading to Portal which I've yet to reach.

IM which is so easy great flow loops, ramps and great toy (Monger) and three spinners! Can't get much more simple yet intense.

TWD speaking of intense, this is the one that gets me hitting the tilt more than any other. It's another seemingly simple pin without too much going on (at least on the pro) but yet it does a lot with it's simplicity.

I have owned XMLE and played Avatar a bit. They are both fun but didn't think they were *as* good as the four I currently own. I have only played Kiss once have not formed an opinion, have played BBH but don't recall it very well but the theme was not my favorite.

Why do you think TWD has the best code? I just picked up TWD pro to replace XMLE, I think the code is great but have not got too far maybe I haven't got to the best part yet.

I believe XMLE was terrific except the code was not quite great. Had a ton of good stuff just not a great overall code, Stern really dropped the ball on that game code IMO. Needed one more good update.

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I'm playing TWD a lot since its new, but to me it's so much more brutal than any pin I've played. Maybe I need to get my shots down better but it seems as if a small millimeter off leads to a screaming missile towards a drain. But I love it.

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About TWD at first I was like what? Regarding the layout, I thought the ramps were too slow and the pops were too much, but now that I own it I'm really enjoying how odd it is and how it really is nicely designed. I think he improved on the Wolverine / Well Walker bash toy both in location and action. The long ramps and pops give me time to breath or park a ball during MB.

I love Avatar but I think one ramp is a drawback. I really love the art package.

I traded XMLE for TWD and probably think the code is better/more intense for TWD, this may be something because it's new to me and I had XM for 4 years. XM was great but something didn't make it a keeper probably the code.

XM rules while there is a lot to do just seem half baked to me. As if Stern just said that's good enough, but didn't go the extra mile. As if I was still waiting for an update but know it won't come. IMO to get to DP you need to defeat all the Villians is not even possible for my skill. In LOTR just starting all the modes gets to TABA or DSTR and in TWD starting all the modes gets you to Terminus, in Tron it gets you to SOS. At least I have something to shoot for. But knowing that I'd need to defeat all the Villians to me means that DP doesn't even exist. Easy enough fix IMO that they could even have a few option choices in the menu to dial it into an acceptable level. Restarting completed heroes is another bugaboo for me. If I am aiming for the last hero, the last thing I need is to be restarting a mode I've already defeated.

I'm not saying the rules of XM are horrible but more that they didn't live up to the potential.

No really easy to explain. I can have a new player who's never played pinball before. I can explain this is how you start Monger, this is how you start Whiplash, this is how you start Boogie, this is IRON MAN targets, this is Drone targets. If you light the character inserts gets you this, if you light the Mark inserts gets you that. Takes me about 3 minutes to explain. Now ACDC for example, I still can't explain some things like note shots.

IM is very easy for beginners just loops and ramps and stand up targets. Even if it's a hard game to master it's easy to step up to and play.

Looks like Met is the winner with as many votes as the next two contestants TWD and Tron

IM in fourth place with as many votes as the next three choices put together.

Can't add to the poll but I can put another poll (new) some of his older games. Not sure how many items are allowed in a poll, but I'll do it sometime later.

I didn't mind XM voices, like the Beast and Storm etc

Guess it came down to I think TWD is better or at least new to me.

I hated to sell XM but in place I got TWD and got Lotr without my wife getting mad it was like I only got one pin net.

Just had a GREAT game on TWD and I'd have to say that it's *A LOT* down to code. If only XM was as well coded!!!!!

Yes XM has a lot of rules and nice shots like Gambit Hurry Up, but overall just not as intense to me as TWD multi balls (let alone the mini wizards on TWD that I've yet to reach). Might be the kick ass NIN sound package that was done by Pinsider. All around intense and fun.

I was not in on TWD or Metallica when they came out, I can't recall how the old code was if it was bad.

I got IM and Tron after they were essentially done but I got XM from day one, so I know how bad code can hurt a pin, basically XM was a dog for a while and I never played it for months on end. Eventually XM got ok but never to the level of Met or TWD.

I think the STM drain from the pops can be corrected. As for the prison magnet, I think it's random like IM where it *can* throw the ball STM but doesn't have to.

I don't think a ball save is necessary, this is the unpredictable aspect of pinball that makes it so fun/frustrating as we've seen people actually complain when a pin has too long of ball times, I like the brutal nature of TWD.

A while back XM was at or above IM which I thought was interesting but later IM came on strong.

I see a lot of similarities between IM and Met pro meaning the loops, ramps, top roll over with pops in the similar position, both have the standard up post after the top lain. But the code and the additional features make these two play very different.

I agree, but might be I was camped out in the preliminary portion of the game too often, whereas LOTR for example or Tron is not that difficult to see some mini wizard modes even if you are not an excellent player.

DP requires beating all the Villains? I probably had not defeated more than 1-2 in my best games so to me DP is just a concept. I had only got to DR one time. I know that was attainable but with my lack of skill or limited playing time since I have so many games it was just not happening. One easy fix would be to start DP after starting all the Villains can be adjusted in the menu if people prefer to make it easier or more difficult.

IMO I'd prefer more options to make a pin easier without adding a ton of extra balls.

Perhaps I'd like it better if I was more focused on one or two pins. As it was with my collection getting a new pin roughly once every 5 months and also I don't play a lot. Plus with my pin had not adjusted Wolverive at all so setting up some of the upper flipper shots was not easy for me.

Probably since my XMLE had the factory Wolverine placement it was more frustrating than fun.

I far prefer the Well Walker placement and the multiball to Weapon-X MB which I just never cared for.

I never put in the time required to master XMLE so was very frustrating as the wizard modes were beyond reach.

While I really liked the Gambit hurry up, it was just a medium amount of points so not really a big deal like DOD hurry up for example. So while it was fun to make the Gambit shot it really didn't boil down to anything in the game.

Of course coding is (for me) probably the most important thing and why I really enjoy my Stern pins.

While I do understand this is discussing Borg designs pins, I greatly appreciate the rules and lately Lyman's great code on Met, TWD and (Tron/IM to a lesser extent).