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Borg or Ritchie - who's the best!

By MacLean

6 years ago


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    #1 6 years ago

    This question comes up a lot with my pin buddies. John Borg & Steve Ritchie are both stand out skilled designers, but seriously, if there was an award for "Best Designer" who would it go to?

    #6 6 years ago
    Quoted from AUKraut:

    Pat Lawlor........

    Banzai Run is an awesome game!

    #10 6 years ago
    Quoted from HarryReimer:

    Apples and Oranges. Steve Ritchie is the KING OF FLOW, there is none higher, sucker designers, call him SIRE.

    He is the king of flow ... however, IMHO Borg's list of accomplishments slightly exceed that of Steve's. I think just the fact that Borg has TWD, MET, AS, & Tron on his resume speaks volumes.

    For me, Borg is my hero & his creative skills has brought me many hours of awesomeness!

    #22 6 years ago
    Quoted from jar155:

    Neither would be the best, but Ritchie is superior.
    I think if Brian Eddy has more in his portfolio, he could challenge.

    I agree, MMr is simply outstanding!

    #26 6 years ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    They are both awesome, Borg can certainly do more with less, he has made some killer games with tight budgets and restraints on him, would love to see a game designed by them in partnership a Ritchie/Borg hybrid

    yes, a Borg/Ritchie combo collaboration would be killer! Kinda like mixing Getaway+Walking Dead.

    #27 6 years ago
    Quoted from paul_8788:

    He called Pinside a disease.

    Yes, that comment by Ritchie was simply his reaction to "negative" remarks made after the initial pics of his new Star Wars playfield. It got blown way out of proportion. He was offended I'm sure. The comments were brutal.

    #46 6 years ago
    Quoted from Eskaybee:

    6 of those Borg games were programmed by Lyman Sheats.
    And only 1 for Ritchie.
    Id like to see Lyman teaming up with either of these designers

    I agree, Sheats is the man when it comes to programming, just look at MMr, it's perfection under glass!

    Ritchie is definitely the best at "risk/reward" shots but Borg games just feel so smooth & complete.

    *I'd like to see Borg team up with Sheats, Lonnie & Kyzivat again as they did with MET.
    IMO, MET is a stand-out creative masterpiece. Simply flawless in every possible way.

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    #55 6 years ago

    Ok, it's official, the winner between Borg & Ritchie is ... Pat Lawlor.

    #57 6 years ago
    Quoted from drsfmd:

    Um... he's an artist, not a designer.

    ... and nobody ripped Marche to shreds when he designed this? Oh ya, I forgot ... we didn't have Pinside back then

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    #66 6 years ago
    Quoted from drsfmd:

    Which one holds out for more complete code?

    I did up a quick chart to make it clear which designer's pins have codes complete & ones that "still" do not. Interesting.

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    #82 6 years ago
    Quoted from KozMckPinball:

    I think the title the OP should have used is "Borg or Ritchie - Who's Better?" .

    ... actually, I should have titled it, "Borg, Ritchie or Lawlor - Who's the best?"

    #83 6 years ago
    Quoted from MacLean:

    ... actually, I should have titled it, "Borg, Ritchie or Lawlor - Who's the best?"

    or even better, "Which designer has never ripped off an idea from another pin?" Now that would be difficult

    #93 6 years ago
    Quoted from J85M:

    would love to see a game designed by them in partnership a Ritchie/Borg hybrid

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    #99 6 years ago

    hey, I'm with you, Borg is king in my world. Just rather surprised at the amount of love for Lawlor.

    #113 6 years ago
    Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

    Thanks for the nice summary chart below maclean you can add Dialed-In under Lawlor.

    good point, Jeff. If Dialed-In was released before the original "popularity" poll was taken 2 months ago, I'm sure Lawlor's 17% could be up around 20% like Borg & Ritchie, or possibly higher.

    DI looks like it will be a game changer.

    #120 6 years ago
    Quoted from Astropin:

    Game changer?

    DI definitely could be called a game changer based on the Bluetooth connectivity. If it's done properly, of course. Lawlor could come out of this a legend if it's successful.

    #129 6 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    Haha! Anyone that designed Frankenstein can never be on a "best of" list; so goddamn bad.

    Coincidentally, my buddy just picked up a Frankenstein last week. I've not been to his place yet to play it as he's out of town, however, I just talked to him this morning & he says it's one of best playing pins he's ever owned. Just curious, why do hate it so much?

    #138 6 years ago
    Quoted from Eskaybee:

    Borg: Metallica TWD TRON
    I'd still go with the Ritchie pack of 3.

    Borg all the way.
    At our bi-weekly Friday pin nights at my buddies place, he currently has 4 Borg's (ASLE, MET premium, TWDLE, GnR) & 2 Ritchie's (STLE, GoTLE)
    ... without a doubt, IMHO, the Borg pins blow the 2 Ritchie pins out of the water! I own 2 Borg's, AS pro & MET premium & they aren't going anywhere ... ever!

    Borg is undeniably the f'en design pin king!

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