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BOP Club...non 2.0

By MustangPaul

4 years ago

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#1016 3 years ago

Looking for sideart decal options. I know PPS, BAA, and I believe Marco carry the Next Gen. But from what I've seen on other titles the texture is way off. So I'm looking for a set of art that has a smooth semi gloss to it.

What all has everyone put on their machines.

3 weeks later
#1086 3 years ago

Edit. Well I found that you aren't supposed to use the metal guides according to CPR, however the holes are much larger than original, and result in the balls not sitting right in the face plastics. That sucks.

Ok, so today I'm working on replacing the face plastics with the new CPR ones. Drilling the holes and mounting the metal ball rest plate was straight forward on the mouth face. However on the Eye lock face, the countersink screws are mounted under the plastic ball guides. My search of the forum hasn't resulted in finding a post on how you guys are drilling the holes for the metal ball rests on the eye face.

How have you guys done this?

#1090 3 years ago

I'm just going to cut a new plate, relocating the holes, and making the oblong holes an individual hole for each eye. So everything will mount up similar to original. That way everything has a clean look and actually functions.

#1097 3 years ago

Test fitting the new metal plate. I made it with lowered side mounting holes, and made it solid in the middle areas. Making room for the two holes to mount the posts to. Trying first by just using the two post screws, I'm not sure that will be strong enough over the long haul though.

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#1103 3 years ago
Quoted from jsa:

I don't suppose you have a photo of the original metal plates? I'm trying to understand better why CPR would say you don't need them, which doesn't make any sense to me.

Here you go.

I'm sure it will work with the new CPR plastics. The problem is that it doesn't look right. The plungers for the eye are pointed, and the eye holes are larger. So when the ball falls into the eye hole it rolls off center.

The original hole, and plate was designed to capture the ball, as you can see in the one picture of the original, the eye hole just let the pinball through, the plate just held the ball.

It would be possible to use the original plate, but since the hole is a large oblong shape, the pinball will roll towards the inside, causing the bride to look cross eyed.

I didn't like that option either. So I made individual holes the same radius as the original, but made it where you could mount it with the posts, which remains to be seen how well it will hold up since the screws are just held in by the plastic posts. But I have provisions to allow mounting the original screws to help hold it together jic.

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#1104 3 years ago

Here's how the old plate mounted.

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#1109 3 years ago
Quoted from jsa:

Could you solve the same problem using 3D-printed ABS instead of a metal plate?

I'm not exactly sure how much room the mechs inside will give you when it rotates. So it probably can't be to think. Might be able to do it with 1/8 acrylic plate.

I've also thought about making a clear beveled insert, but that would have to be glued in, and might screw up the art work if not very careful.

#1110 3 years ago
Quoted from volcanodiver:

CPR can't do the beveled edge on the holes, so in order to not have balls roll over the holes w/o stopping they needed to enlarge the holes. This leads to bride googly eyes. This can also lead to balls falling into the head (not the catchpan) if the head turns with a ball in the face holes. Its a poor design that we are stuck with, mostly because people don't like the yellowed guides. The faces are almost always fine. what is needed is replacement guides.

Stuck with, but there are solutions. My faces had scratched artwork, and poor touch ups. Not sure why, previous owner didn't take care of them when working on mechs.

#1113 3 years ago
Quoted from ForceFlow:

Could you use a step drill bit to get a bevel on the eye holes? Or is that not worth the trouble?

They could have beveled the edges, well they could have had it done that is. Since they obviously are not setup to do it. Hell I could have done it with a router once the hole was cut "To the correct size"

It's just not caring enough to produce the best product they could have.

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