Quoted from floyd1977:

Save some money?
It's something to do?

Quoted from NJGecko:

Can I be in the club too?
Still working on mine...non 2.0, but lots of other junk done to it...

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Quoted from king-pin:

I'm in,got the whole trilogy.Those inserts will clean up nicely,just pulled a mylar up on a Funhouse with raised inserts and they came up a treat.

Quoted from schudel5:

Ok I'm in. Double vision! (One is not mine as my son bought his own.)
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Quoted from awarner:

I'm a 2.0 guy but I PROMISE, I'll keep my comments limited to 1.0 issues. Thanks for creating the thread! Oh, I was friends with Python. That was cool!

Quoted from schudel5:

All new ramps, plastics and helmet. I have two new playfields on order from Peter. (Shhhhhh...Matt is getting his for Christmas.) It will be fun doing two pf swaps, as Matt's really, REALLY needs it badly. Mine is ok, as long as you don't need paint in the pop bumper area.

Quoted from awarner:

My game recently got a lot of play at a local show so I'm going to do a mini-shop on it when I can. I originally had removed all of the parts from it and replaced a few plastics when I got it. I have since purchased the CPR plastics set and I was thinking of doing that as well. I put new incandescents in everyplace but the pops since they are more difficult to change and LEDs will avoid cap burn. I did put LED Star Post lights that flash when the sligshots fire. This mod works with any BOP and I think it makes it look more mechanical (like sparks flying when the slings are hit). I had Python sign my backglass and I got John Trudeau to sign it as well. I sold my collection last year and this was one of the 4 games I kept. I'm a huge fan of this title in any incarnation!

Quoted from king-pin:

Here they are.

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Quoted from awarner:

I did mine myself with hobby paint and I sealed it with super glue and wet sanded it in. Not perfect but people who have played it say that it's one of the nicest they've played. I wouldn't go that far but it's not bad. You can sorta see the results in my restoration thread (pre-2.0) here: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/another-bride-gets-the-works-eventually-will-be-a-bop-20-fingers-crossed

Quoted from Tallon:

Try 2........ ebay.com link » Williams Bride of Pinbot Pinball Machine Insert Decals Licensed

Quoted from king-pin:

Got some other cool lines as well.

Quoted from king-pin:

Can you spot the common thing with all 3 games besides the fact they are all sys 11?

Quoted from wizard_mode:

Hi BoP is the first game I purchased and I love it! My PF has bad bubbling and I would like to restore it some day. But for now it plays great!
The only issue I'm having is that intermittently (more often than not though) both balls are realeased into multiball instead of one ball at a time. The problem with this is that, when they are released right on top of one another, sometimes the second ball bounces around when entering the LH flipper return and ends up in the LH outlane immediately... Is this a known issue or am I on my own trying tfigure it out? Is the face outlet stopper solenoid thingy adjustable at all? Could a bad solder connection cause weakening of the solenoid (this happened on my underplayfield kickout solenoid)?
Glad there is a group for BoP 1.0. Can I join? =)

Quoted from RavagedUnicorn:

Since BOP 2.0 is so expensive, has anyone thought about adding WMS DMD hardware to a BOP and reprogramming the main ROM to output some graphics to the DMD (Maybe with OpenWPC or whatever that software is called for reprogramming WPC games). One of the things I think I dislike most about BOP 2.0 is the new audio. But this way you could keep the old audio chip in place, untouched and it would be a lot cheaper than a BOP 2.0. Just requires someone to do the programming.

Quoted from RavagedUnicorn:

Wouldn't you only need the DMD and DMD driver board added to your existing board set? This would be significantly cheaper. I was kind of thinking of it more as a fun hobby project. (Not paying a programmer, doing it yourself type of deal). Basically it would be BOP 1.0 with DMD graphics. Not really interested in 2.0 sound or rules.
Main reason I ask, is because I have thought about this, I do a lot of programming, and was wondering if anyone else had thought about doing this or has attempted to. Was pretty fascinated by the work done with the new Demolition Man code in FreeWPC

Quoted from Chet:

I have the CPR mirrored Backglass in my BoP and was wondering what kind of lamps/lighting would look best? I had LEDs in the original translite but they don't seem to look very good with the mirrored backglass, at least with the ones I was using.

Quoted from SpaceWar:

I'm in!! Picked up my BoP a week ago last Sunday! Suppositly just shopped and ready to go, heh, right. Already I've fixed a head orientation issue, replaced the mixed black and white rubbers with new 'clear' rubbers, bought new pop bumper tops for the missing ones, and ordered some LED's (like for the pop bumpers so I don't have to take off the pinbot playfield again). Waiting on the LED's to arrive.
Started cleaning and waxing the playfield. It's looking nice. I do have an issue with 4 bonus lights on the left side of the playfield not lighting, but I'll post a question on that soon.
Tom

Quoted from InfiniteLives:

So Im having an issue with my new BOP, wondering if anyone here has any insight before I start a tech thread.
Everytime I get a score for the high score list, no letters show up to put in initials, its just blank. I can hit the flipper buttons a bunch and it stays blank, no matter how I enter the blank spaces, when the high scores scroll they are blank as well. The game does not have a battery hooked up at the moment so it resets to default settings everytime, so im not sure if this is the reason it is doing this or if I have an issue somewhere else.
EDIT: I think i found the problem, the U7 and U8 opto isolators are bad.

Quoted from MT45:

No - this was my first. Learned a ton!

Quoted from Morydees:

Count me in! BoP was the first pin I had a chance to play thoroughly when I was a kid and I fell in love with it. I'd always been big into space/technology so the theme was right up my alley. That and the great sound effects, fun play and overall design meant it'll always hold a special place in my heart (pun intended).
It took almost a quarter century but the time was finally right to have my own pin earlier this year. So I bit the bullet, found a working one locally that had a good playfield and spent the next two months giving it some TLC (cleaning/cabinet touch-up, LED color scheming and replacing a bunch of worn parts). Couldn't be happier!
Anyway, when I first joined here and saw the BoP 2.0 thread I was a bit sad we didn't have one of our own so it's great to see one pop up. I'd be stoked to join if you'll have me

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Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Thanks Paul . And wow thats a cool effect. How and the heck did you do that? Whats involved?

Quoted from Morydees:

Wow, that is pretty darn cool! I'm guessing a clear plastic/acrylic with an LED somewhere allowing the edge to glow? Definitely interested in how you achieved that (especially the wiring).

Quoted from rottenrobert1313:

Ahh ok. Thats pretty sweet.

Quoted from Morydees:

Yep, that all sounds pretty straight forward. Saved this on my "To Do" list some day. Thanks again!

Quoted from Morydees:

Definitely! Speaking of, I also grabbed a set of the astronaut men from MT45's thread this week too. Really fits the theme and for $16 I couldn't say no

Quoted from wizard_mode:

Anyone ever tried painting the helm? Mine is flaking the chrome off and I thought about painting it metallic purple. Is this a huge mistake? Any better idears?

Quoted from Morydees:

Any difference between theirs and the one Marco Specialties sells? I've been meaning to get one and your reminder about them getting harder to find has lit a fire under my butt.
edit: Well it looks like Marco is out of stock anyway!

Quoted from Mancave:

Hey MP, this is where i got my set from about 18 months ago, think the price is still the same.
http://www.pinballdecals.com/PartsByGamePages/TMBOP_Page.html
I haven't even seen the black set?? although i'd stick with the purple myself, MMMMMLOVE Purple

Quoted from Morydees:

Knew you might say that Money is tight right now but considering my right ramp looks like this (see temporary fix pic), it's time to finally replace it. Bay Area has those too but not the left ramp and Marco doesn't have the combo price anymore. Don't suppose you know of any shops with the combo or better yet, a full head/ramp super set like these guys used to offer: http://mad-amusements.com/product.php?id_product=22 ?

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Quoted from hlazzer:

http://bayareaamusements.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=BAA&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=GS-BOP11-1002-50002NG
http://www.planetarypinball.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=PP&Screen=PROD&Category_Code=GS-1502&Product_Code=PPA-11-1002-50002NG
they look fantastic, I have a set in storage from when they first went on sale.

Quoted from Morydees:

Yeah I saw those guys too and you're right, a tad steep unless they're somehow different than others. They claim "thicker plastic" that's stronger but isn't that how most reproductions are? Or is that an unusual claim?

Quoted from TheRingMaster:

Hi there guys! Good initiative from you mustangpaul! I hereby join the club =) will read it through later since I'm at work now hehe but anyway I think I qualify as a member. Later when I have reassembled my game I will need this thread to straighten out all the initial issues that will probably come. I'm waiting on the repro playfield now but as soon as I have it I will complete my restoration. Bop is special for me since it is/was my first project game and from working on it I've learned about 90% of what I know about pinball service and restoration. Thanks for starting the club Paul!

Quoted from Morydees:

Oh wow, okay I'll skip hunting down the Aussie/German sites and give Starship's a try then. They are only $15 more than the usual set price so if they are thicker it'll be worth it. I'll just grab the head and ball lock protector from Bay Area.
Also, those legs are going to look amazing on the finished product. Looking forward to more pics!

Quoted from Morydees:

Well now that Paul's got me in a BOP spending mood again (this is the longest I've gone without spending a dime on her!), I've been thinking about brightening up the pop bumper area since it's so dark. I'd noticed in MT45's thread a while back that he tried the BriteCaps and I know Paul has the Comets (saw those in Andy's amazing thread) but have any of you tried the new BriteCap EVOs? They look to be the same drop-in style but the flash is interesting.
http://www.britemods.com/britecaps--evo.html
The hard part is deciding if I want the stock red or purple...decisions decisions.

Quoted from Morydees:

Awesome, thanks for the breakdown. You're right about the mini PF likely blocking any of the flashing benefits but that also reminds me that the EVOs may not fit as they add about 5mm of height. So that probably takes them out of the running anyway. I'm running the stock red caps right now which is why the EVOs were tempting as it'd allow me to change the color. Then again, the more I look at your photos the more I'm really digging keeping the stock red. Considering I changed my GI to mostly purple, it'll be nice to keep the contrast and boy do yours pop.
Looks like you got Red Top/Natural White, is that right? Did you have any issues with inserting the rings? I read some reviews that you have to be careful and possibly glue them in the perfect spot otherwise you might short them out. Seems straight-forward enough.
Pic of Paul's setup for anyone wondering about the Comets. Mmmm...

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Quoted from libtech:

Anyone have or know where a set of plastics are?

Quoted from Morydees:

Hey guys, question for those of you familiar with mylar machines. I'd noticed some odd ball movement recently and it seems my 5 Million insert is raised on one corner. It's hard to tell from the pic but you can see the separated mylar on the lower right where it's been pulled away from the PF for some reason. A firm press didn't seem to budge it so I thought I'd ask before getting reckless with a rubber mallet and a protective cloth cushion to tap it back in.
I'm not worried about the leftover bubble so much (have plenty of those being stock mylar) but I don't want to make a bad situation worse. Thoughts?

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Quoted from Morydees:

You are a wealth of information Paul, thanks again. I've never pulled the PF completely out on my BOP but it's probably time to try it. From what I've seen doing mild resoration/cleanings, I expect to find all sorts of jerry-rigged posts and other oddities once I get in there. I guess that's par for the course on a lot of these ex-arcade machines.
As for the mylar, I spent a weekend reading about 50 posts on the subject (from freezing to Goo Gone to reproductions now shipping) and decided that mine wasn't bad enough to remove just yet, especially given the high chance of damage. Luckily the bubbling isn't too visible in the dark room and I've come to not even notice it. This is the first incident that actually affected play though so I'll try easing it down flat and see how it goes.
Looks like I've got a fair bit of fun ahead once the ramps, pop bumper LEDs and shiny new head come in

Quoted from Morydees:

Literally ordered the last set he had in stock on the site

Quoted from ttown:

Picking up my first BOP this week. It is nice and I am excited about the new game. Are there two different BOP Clubs one 2.0 one non 2.0? Are we afraid of a combined club? Don't let the 2.0 guys in they will ruin all the fun?

Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Well, guess I join the club as just picked up a very nice HUO BOP. Will join the 2.0 as well as love the fact that 2.0 also has option to play original BOP. What a light show on this game!
And good advice. Wasn't going to add any leds but added under big wheel to prevent excess heat on the mylar as have a couple of spots where it has just started to lift.

Quoted from Chosen_S:

Ooooooooooo.... Can you post a pic of the wiring to do this???
Thank you!
Oh yeah, I'm in, no 2.0 for me
I like it original. Had mine shipped from Cali to Tx, I fixed a few things here and there... Ordered a new Pf, everything on mine as far as plastics and such looks ok, but the pf has Mylar and some bubbling and a little touched up wear. Love it

Quoted from Mancave:

Do you mean this one MP?
http://www.pinball.center/en/

Quoted from Morydees:

It seems pretty darn hard to find anyone with just one piece of a decal set. I'm in a similar boat, just needing the back cabinet but might have to bite the bullet on the whole thing at some point. Good luck on your hunt!

Quoted from Morydees:

Believe me, I thought about it as soon as I saw him post but I just recently spent a full day touching it up and it's good enough to get me by until I do a full cab restore. Which with all the stuff I've been adding to my list lately might come sooner rather than later!

Quoted from Morydees:

I don't have a restoration thread going so I hope it's cool to post some progress pics in here, especially since it's your fault (mostly Paul!) that I've started again
Anyway, I got the new head chrome from Bay Area and LED pop bumpers from Comet the other day. The ramps haven't arrived yet and BA goofed on the ball lock (they are fixing it) but I couldn't wait to get started. Suffice to say, she's looking a whole lot nicer after today's work! Here's some before/after shots.

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Quoted from larryhorse:

There's nothing in the left corner to light up its a hidden covered scoop. The pops are a visible area that seeing is important since you get extra points for more pops. The lighting there lets you see for nudging. The left does not need lighting.

Quoted from mollyspub:

has anyone contacted you ???

Quoted from mollyspub:

ya never know. sounds like your not a fan of PINGRAFFIX but... im thinking at somepoint they will come out with a design for BOP.

Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Small mod as one of my flippers broke and all I had spare was a NOS black set.
They look pretty good so may keep them on game.

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Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Photo taken while game in motion

Quoted from Morydees:

Like you said, doesn't need it but I'm the kind of dude that really likes symmetry.

Quoted from Chosen_S:

Are you prodding someone to do them?

Quoted from Chosen_S:

Sorry if I may be wrong, but I think the rubber configuration on the upper right of your mini playfield is incorrect

Quoted from Vreuls:

Got mine back yesterday,has been away for over 2 years
Its an original diamond plate with different inserts,some old pictures are on ipdb
Now it has black cabinet decals,full led,playfield protector,sound ugrade etc etc
Soon to be 2.0

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Quoted from BigDan:

Funny what MustangPaul said about motivating us. Once I saw his pop bumper pics 9 months ago on this other restoration thread I was hooked

Quoted from larryhorse:

Enjoy it, I think it's not better, pointless lighting isn't my preference. But it's yours to do what you want

Quoted from Chosen_S:

I think to do it right, it needs a little more than nasa pics , besides, they're too grainy and precise, I don't have pinblade measurements , I think I'll just take the time to measure and start on them soon and see how they end up, I have some ideas brewing

Quoted from BigDan:

I'd prefer a variation of this. I have $$$ standing by
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Quoted from mollyspub:

I'm lucky enough to have these already but wondering who these belong to as I haven't seen these posted except for my own

Quoted from BigDan:

Thanks, I put a lot of work into her. As for the shuttle ramp I'm using a spot lamp with a SMD twin flex in purple near the scoop and another one in the back. Back in February I removed everything off the top of my playfield except the face mechanism so I could clean and polish every nook and cranny. I then went to town with the LED's by ordering up lots of LED star posts, tons of LED strips in all sorts of colors and various styles and colors of wedge and bayonet bulbs to get the exact look I was going after and I'm still not done. I'm going to wait until I do my reproduction playfield swap to go all out.
Here's a early video I shot to show to some of my league buddies but I didn't really want to showcase it here just yet because like everything else in my life its not finished. On a funny side note I turns out member 85Vette and I are both using ice blue's from Comet for under the heart beat ramp at the same time without knowing what the other was doing.
Colors in real life are much more subtle then how they appear on video which has the purple and blues over saturated.
One day I'd like to put together a well produced and narrated youtube video of my "shop job" because I love watching those sorts of videos and there's not that many out there.
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Quoted from Morydees:

Yep, good eye! This was a supposed-to-be-temporary fix from when I got the machine back in April. It was supposedly shopped but I guess the prior owner didn't notice it and it was WAY worse before (see pic). Balls almost never went back to the plunger as you can imagine.
Since I didn't have any of those mini white rings I just rigged it as close as I could to stock. That was like, four months ago and I stupidly keep forgetting to order them. I've been meaning to get new incandescents for the helmet and some vinyl switch covers so I guess I should just get off my ass and order all of that tonight
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Quoted from Morydees:

They were harder to find than I expected but Marco appeared to have both sizes that BOP needs. If you want to wait until I get mine for comparison/fitment just let me know. Hopefully be here next week.

Quoted from Morydees:

Regarding the LED strips, are these the ones you and Dan are talking about? http://www.cometpinball.com/6-3-V-Plug-Play-Strips-Comet-Pinball-p/6.3vsmdstrips.htm I was randomly searching and found your Mustang lit up nicely and now I've got all sorts of ideas for correcting some dull spots.

Quoted from Morydees:

I saw a post from Art saying he's got some sort of new "Matrix" system coming out. Any idea on those at all?

Quoted from Morydees:

That dude needs a blog or something, he's always coming out with stuff

Quoted from Morydees:

I may just wait a bit and see what he comes up with. Either way I'm definitely looking into some of these.

Quoted from jacklick:

Picked up a BOP that needs lots of TLC this week. I always think I am getting a deal until I start digging in. Had a broken rubber in pop bumper area that was causing balls to get stuck, replaced that (PIA) and blown out shooter rod tip; followed by quick light cleaning just to play some games. Both Ramps have blown out entry corner pieces and playfield has some issues. Insert stickers completely worn out or mylar bubbling over them, small wear spot by right in-lane ball drop.
Anyway my questions.
1) There are no playfield rails to slide the playfield out. It just pivots? Is that normal for this era of Williams?
2) I also have the issue of two balls being released simultaneously in multi-ball...will have to investigate that per recommendation in this thread.
3) It is running L3 code, I have burner...what should I upgrade too? L6? read something about board mods for bigger rom for L8. Can do that as well when installing NVRAM socket.
4) In GI test there is a section for "lights under helmet". Nothing lights up and I had the helmet off to replace that rubber...any clue here?
5) Is there supposed to be a rubber tip on mouth eject rod? I appears to be just pointed metal.
6) Anything else you see in the pic? I think I am missing a plastic piece in upper left.
Whenever I think I have a deal, it usually ends up not such a great deal after all but I think she is a keeper for me.

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Quoted from Vreuls:

They talked me into selling it,
I had the change to buy it back so i did
She was in germany for over 2 years

Quoted from Shapeshifter:

One issue many have is with the control relay board that is responsible for head turning.
I had to re-flow mine and so far so good.
But for those who like to plan ahead, I bought a spare board.
Sometimes when these kind of parts go out ofd stock, they never come back in.
Seemed like a sensible part to buy!
http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/A-14423-1

Quoted from Vreuls:

No,it was in better condition
When i sold it it was in original condition and played very well and fast
Cabinet was in very bad shape
Now it has black cabinet decals,playfield protector,pinball pro sound update,new heartbeat ramp,helmet,full led,side rails,legs and probably some more new things
The black decals looj very nice imo

Quoted from jacklick:

so there are a few threads about this but some quick links are here and you can find some summary info DP 2.0 forum about it.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bride-of-pinbot-rom-revision-differences#post-2283472
I only found one complaint about L8 code related to extraball % but have played at least 15 games on L8 and have received 1 extra-ball and 2 light extra balls. So not sure if that complaint is justified or if the L8 code I have is different than reporter since it is not official code..who knows.
I am running tmbopl_8.rom md5 ccd9733749134e072dd187b478bed808
Also, since running L8, I haven't run into the double ball release issue. Could be circumstance or timing of coil changed in code.
received new ramps, flipper rebuild kit, rubber kit and a manual today.

Quoted from jacklick:

http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/WFLKIT

Quoted from pinaholic:

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Quoted from Mancave:

Have you seen my high score MP? and with a pic

Good reminder mate, got mine when they first became available, still waiting on the big one!!

Quoted from Morydees:

Also, does anyone know if this piece (receiver for the lane rail screws) can be bought separately or is that something I'll have to scavenge from another pin? Mine were incredibly hard to remove (threadlocked) and this one just would not come out, even with soldering iron heat and other treatments. Eventually it just pulled the receiver from the wood and snapped when trying to remove it after soaking so it can't be reused. Worst case I'll grab a 2" long version (instead of 1-3/4") and throw a nut on there.

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Quoted from Morydees:

Well Paul, I attempted this last night and everything went perfectly thanks to your advice. I snagged some Red Oak form the local hardware store, pulled the LEDs from underneath and heated/tapped carefully until it was perfectly smooth again. Nice to not have that odd pathing when rolling over 5-Million!
Regarding the vinyl switch covers from MS we talked about earlier, I had a chance to compare those as well. We've got two sizes on BOP and the smaller of the two (3/4") was a bit bigger than what was on my machine. They actually fit a bit better, tight enough but not super hard to slide on/off. However, they are a tiny bit lighter in color and they don't have the rounded cutouts that allow the switches metal tab to move freely. The latter was easily fixed by cutting the holes needed and so far they seem to work pretty good. The larger of the two (1-1/4" last pic) was the one I was missing so I don't have anything to compare it to but it fit nice and snug and did not need to be cut as that switch faces downward so the metal tab doesn't interfere. Overall, I'm pleased with them and my only complaint is the slightly lighter color. It's not too noticeable without the flash though.
3/4" : http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/20-9646-G
1-1/4": http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/20-9672
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Quoted from jrawlinson_2000:

Just started my BoP refurbish, cabinet first.
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