You BOP guys hear anything new yet? End of June was last word I was able to find. Not in on BOP 2.0 but as a TBL want to see them make their commitments to you guys first. Since we have a payment due July 1 hoping they have a big newsletter soon that they are shipping for you guys and maybe an artwork reveal for us

couple people mentioned it on other BOP 2.0 thread. Happy for you guys.. as a TBL customer excited to see them succeed in this area.

Maybe days is dutch for weeks?

Looks like at least 45 P-ROCs in the pictures.

So, nothing more from them after the photos?

i would have to believe they are "so close" that they think all will be forgiven by hunkering down and trying to pound it out. Hope they are as close as they think they are New company and all that though, plus they got all "official" with PPS.. wonder if there's a lot of review process now with Rick and/or Williams for their new stuff?

Well, as a TBL guy I'm certainly watching what happens here so fumbling BoP 2.0 certainly doesn't help them with TBL. They are doing a VIP thing at expo for TBL people.. If they haven't come through by then should be able to find them in person to get some answers if anyone is going.

good to hear a timeline is in place now, official or not

I wouldn't assume the whole team is showing up in Houston cause you're right, they need to get bop shipping. Given a day to travel both ways and all that , plus getting the prototypes they likely left in the states moved from their IL HQ down to Houston is a pain too.. And that's the same guy or small USA staff that would be prepping your BOP kits. They have the dutch pinball open show this weekend as well.

yeah and can be hard to notice too. I was noticing on my NGG buzz was having problems going down. When I got in there, I found the wrong coil #, wrong coil stop on both Buzz and Bud, and a piece of coil sleeve used as a spacer on the wrong coil. I'm fixing all that this weekend... but yeah, I could of gone years without finding that, and some new software might be tuned slightly different on the timings where the old hacks don't work (as they were hacked just until "good enough" to make the old software happy). so, yes, potential is out there.

Just wildly speculating.. they added a VIP party in NYC for this weekend for TBL. If there is some part they need to bring over here to get USA shipping going, it is much easier to fly it over here as excess baggage and walk it through customs yourself... vs. shipping it and who knows what happens. So, just a guess is that this weekend has dual motives of also getting BOP2.0 rolling here.

Hopefully by the time that got sorted out, you'd have or got very close to having yours anyway really feel them visiting the states this weekend is going to be the final stage in getting these out the door here... if they started shipping them by the end of next week in USA.. maybe could start seeing them around Christmas? Maybe there's a few Christmas miracles to happen still.

I just want to know when RareHero gets his? This week?

couldn't you just mask out the DP logo and spray paint the grill whatever color you want?

Not sure how many check the DP forums but they just posted about signing up for beta testing if interested.

There was also the beta software release notes.. Looks like mostly improvements to bop 1.0 and being more tolerant of 20 year old games with busted switches? (If I'm reading that correct).

Awaiting some USA unboxing posts!

ah ok... that covers most of it. What's the the heartbeat ramp (no entrance switch required) bit about then? similar?

Congrats!!

Maybe 50% of your DP order got put on his porch! and they got swapped? Weird. Glad you are whole again.

The Awarner special . Just have to wait for your sports authority box next

You can't go there and pick it up? I thought you could tell them you wanted to pick up at their facility, they pull off their truck and then you go to counter..

Can't get it tomorrow though? That sucks

Wasn't this a problem with the original version of software but fixed in 1.09 (most USA kits shipped with this though vs 1.08.

Its just for fun.. If someone feels the need to cheat thats sort of their personal issues.

how about this, don't store any sensitive data on your pinball machine

Wow editing video mode levels and sharing them between games. Nice..

as a anecdote.. xmen had a few ghosting problems when it shipped, and it was cabling.. there was some cross talk happening and by physically separating a wiring harness inidividual strands as it traveled around you could get ghosting to stop. So if the two lights giving you problems are part of the same harness, may be worth playing around.

I dunno.. Entering network settings from some coin door buttons seems a lot more work.

Just thinking about , as an example, setting a wireless password. Without a qwerty interface of some kind it will be a pain depending on complexity. More/less pain than hooking up a keyboard/mouse once.. Guess it depends on comfort level with PC tech.

I thought everybody had a drawer in their home with keyboards and mice. heck I just bought another one just for raspberry pi last month.

I think they said TBL will be Linux based so changing network settings programmatically from within python or whatever they're writing stuff in will be easier, so maybe it will get better for that.

I understand where rarehero is coming from, my mom would have the same concerns.

as I imagine some might get on route? No wifi everywhere, etc.. I think updating via media is always going to have to be supported; so that's prob safe

Getting TBL out this quarter (with at least some software) is prob top priority.. I'm sure they have Koen working in shifts down at the crime lab.

Seeing BOP2.0 getting love makes me even more excited for TBL. Sorry that it's taken this long.. but, compared to "other projects" mishaps going on in the hobby guess relatively it's not so bad. It's too bad BOP2.0 has been a rather sleeper project, they are really doing some cool shit.

Maybe mayuh can live stream some for you?

Yeah no funny stuff (distractions) right now

Will probably get more help at the dutch pinball forums.

The reality is that you still could have issues.. Even after the batch 2 variances are sorted.

Just have to think about what this kit is trying to do.. Swap out the boards on 25 year old games.. Which have huge variability in quality of the harnesses, IDC connectors, switch gaps, and repairs that may have just barely worked for the original boards, or maybe only worked due to degraded original boards. It's major surgery regardless so, I guess I would just wait till your stress level is ready to handle potential tweaking at least

Haha my college roomate was Adam. Going to forward this to him.. He didn't know he was in the credits till I caught it on a video. He's kind of gotten out of pinball

If you haven't already, the DP forums are more help with these issues than pinside since DP staff participate. I think there's a support email to report issues as well / opening a ticket kind of thing.

The release notes are still up:
http://www.dutchpinball.com/bop2/software/changelog.txt