I am just putting the finishing touches on my full BoP restore. I have owned it for 2 years and this was the incentive I needed to fix her up.

I am paid and ready for 2.0....

It was 100 Euros. So like $800 US dollars? (joke)

$136.00 US for speakers and the amp.

In Euros........
Bride of Pinbot 2.0 Upgrade Kit € 995,00
Vishay Color LED DMD € 200.00
Speaker set and 2.1 amplifier € 100.00

Total Amount: € 1,295.00

Great news. and by "progress" do you mean "progress with Stefanie"?

(Is this bordering on harassment yet?)

Thanks Al. I wish that Dutch Pinball would say more about what is going on now that they have the licensing figured out.

Got my plastic set from CPR last week. (very nice) Been emailing Dutch Pinball. They say if things go well, they will be shipping kits from the states in 6-8 weeks. Right when I am moving. Oh well....

Yeah I was surprised that no one is getting excited that this may actually happen in the near future.....

Cool. Thanks Al.

I know how to fix this. All I need to do is cancel my order. Then everyone else's kits will ship immediately and then they will be sold out when I try to reorder.

You are welcome.

Another week past, another missed deadline, with no communication.....

There is no way I would ever buy anything from them again. I was one of their biggest fans when this whole thing started.

They have had my money for almost a year interest free and used it to get TBL off the ground.

If you look at the timeline. They came back from Expo last year, got their 50 pre-orders and the next week announced that they had bought the rights to TBL and pretty much stopped working on BoP 2.0 for the last year. But somehow they were able to get some prototype TBL's to Expo. I know they said that they had some licensing issues that held things up, but I would have concerns for a company that is taking money from customers before they have all the licenses.

I think that the lack of communication is what is so frustrating for me. HEY DUTCH PINBALL!! POST SOMETHING ON YOUR WEBSITE THAT SAYS THE FIRST KIT WAS RECEIVED AND BEING TESTED!!!
Or how about send out an email that gives the impression that you give a crap about the people who forked out $100,000 a year ago. Are you too busy to send us an email update?

Looking back, knowing what I know now, I would still have bought 2.0 because I love the game. Maybe that will change if I have to wait another 2 months.

Looks like it might be additional Malware software or something.

I hope Dutch Pinball's reputation hasn't gotten bad enough that it is getting blocked by Malware software. They aren't that late... lol

Now is this "Netherlands soon" or "US of A soon?"

Ok. That is pretty cool. I would love to have it before the first of the year. I have 2 weeks off for Christmas and I need a break from my kitchen renovation.

I got mine today! Ok. I didn't really. That was a cruel joke.

But maybe soon....

I disagree. I went with the black decals on my machine with purple under cabinet lighting, purple leds in the helmet, purple pop caps and everything chrome. Mine stands out in my lineup. I think the panel (which looks black with purple trim) will look awesome from what I have seen in the pictures.

I will see what it looks like.

If I don't like the way it looks, I will get my guy to print something else. Maybe something that says "Bride of Pinbot 2.0 Black Edition" with "suck it Calvin12" in little letters.

Not sure why they would do a purple panel which doesn't match the translite anyway. I would want the panel black even if my cabinet decals were purple.

If I ever get my kit, I will see what needs to be done to change it.

Sorry. I thought that was what the "club" was for. Talking about things related to 2.0.

I heard there was a hold-up on licensing. Ok. That was a bad joke, I know.

Thanks Al!

You are getting your wish. Now we can talk about Black vs. Purple again. Yay!

Wow, you are jaded. What has DP ever done to you? Oh wait. nevermind...

I'd like to see that when it is back together!

Barry and Scott hate me... I will probably be last....

I knew that would get a reaction.

So it's just Barry? Lol

I second that. I love the music. "Someone" did a really great job. I just don't understand why DP hates me and won't send me my kit. I have been standing on my front porch for a week now. Lol

Well, my kit was delivered. Sadly it was delivered to the place I was living a year ago when I placed the order. I DID update my address with Barry and he replied and said it was updated. Good news is, that the person at my old address sent it back to Pinball Life. Pinball life called me and it is on it's way back to Pinball Life and then to me. So maybe I will get it next week.

Fingers crossed.

Thanks Snux. That makes a lot of sense.

I am in the same boat. I really love 1.0 and would hate to give it up for a substandard version of 1.0. I think that I would be more likely to install the kit if the code was complete. It will be really lame to play 2.0 without the main feature of the game (spinning head) not functioning. I think if the code was complete and all the modes were there for 2.0, I might not miss 1.0 as much.

Had my huge super bowl party so I was afraid to try to put Bride 2.0 together before the game. My kit went to my old address and the people at my old address were nice enough to update FedEx with my new address so my kit arrived Friday instead of Wednesday. That was a surprise.

I am thinking I will try to install it tonight, if I am not still hung over.

What is the process for doing the update?

Darn so close to having it installed.
Shouldn't my power strip have the crimp connectors instead of a plug?
No big deal, I can go to AutoZone and get them. Just a bummer.

This is what I got. You might want to check your kits.

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You know what? I think they asked me that too a while back. I must have said yes, I have the service outlet and that is what I used. That was actually easier.

Scott, you didn't make a mistake after all.

She's alive.

Played for about an hour last night. I am really liking everything. I even played 1.0 and yes the sound was distorted some, but I really didn't see a much of a lag.

I did have one thing happen in 2.0 that I am going to try to track down.

It had to do with the sequence of locking the balls. Here is what I did...
Heartbeat ramp lock 1, shuttle ramp ball locked, heartbeat ramp lock 2, heartbeat ramp lock 3, shuttle ramp locked ball 2. At this point 2 balls were locked and the game hung. I repeated this twice.

If I did it in order, Heartbeat, shuttle, heartbeat, shuttle, heartbeat, shuttle then I was able to lock all 3 balls and go into multiball. I repeated this twice too.

I will double check the switches and see if something is flaky.

That's what I thought too but I checked all the switches in test mode and during game play and they all seem to be registering well.

It looks like the real issue is that the ball is not getting locked when it should. The ball rolls out of the face, stops then says locked and then the coil drops and releases the ball, but the game still thinks there is a ball there. It is pretty consistent.

I made a short video and put it on YouTube.

Cheddar, you were right all along. With Koen's help we tracked it to the switch entering the face. The switch was snapping back and registering twice so the machine thought a second ball was coming through. Making the switch less sensitive fixed the issue and I am up and running. Yay

And then you put the glass back on. I am just kidding!!!

Ordered. Thanks!!

I need to just sell all my machines now. I truly suck...

I wondered what they were working on. Seemed kind of quiet lately. I bet if they finish the code and include the metamorphosis, they would sell a lot more of the 2nd batch and even need a 3rd batch. It is well worth the $2000 with all the bugs worked out and the complete code all day long. I don't think there would be any question.

He must have heard me....

I got the offer to Beta test but I was just too busy last week. I wish I would have done it so I could see it early....

Can't wait to see the new stuff!

I will be installing tonight. Great. There goes my weekend....

Great. There goes next week too.

Thanks for the gameplay video. I have wondered why someone else hasn't do it before. I would put one up, but you wouldn't have seen that far into the game. It was fun to watch the video display. You really don't get to see how awesome the graphics are when you are actually playing the game while trying to watch the ball.

Again, nice job

Since it's stainless you can polish the siderails yourself really easily while they are still on the cabinet (and it won't ever turn). Just use sandpaper on an orbital sander. I think I went 400, 600, 800, 1200, 2000 and then rubbing compound and polishing compound. Like you would on a clearcoat playfield.

I still had Mike Chestnut do my lockdown bar and hinges, but I saved a couple hundred dollars.

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I think I have a new one that I never installed.

Very cool. I was able to change some of mine out too. Mostly the main theme was bothering me. I think the reason it bothers most people is that it is a loop of only 45 seconds. I used the TNA main theme and it is 4 minutes long, so if you have a really good ball it doesn't get repetitive. I also changed the intro, multiball, bonus calculation and game over to different TNA songs. I am thinking about changing out the rest soon as well.

Thanks for the inspiration.

Mine actually sounded really good. I exported them as 16 bit, if that helps. The level was not quite as high as the originals. Maybe if the originals were a 10 in Volume the new files were an 8 which is actually ok with me since it isn't as distracting and the sound effects are louder.

About the only way I can think of is with a UPS. Back in my IT days, you could program a UPS to shut down a machine gently. Really, that is all this is now, a computer.

I agree. The latest code update fixed the horrible sound on 1.0. I honestly can't tell a big difference between Williams BoP and Dutch Pinball 1.0 now.

The best part of 2.0 though is the ability to change the music and sounds. I have a bunch of cool music and some of the sounds/music from Total Nuclear Annihilation. It was pretty simple to change them out.

If you ever have to replace the CMOS battery for the bios, I would recommend using a battery holder (for the 3v batteries) instead of the expensive sealed CMOS batteries that come in it. I had one of the first couple 2.0 systems maybe 8 years ago? My first battery lasted about 5 years and then the ones I have been buying from Amazon (and others) only last a year or even less. (they are probably old stock) Last time, I bought the holder and soldered the wires with the plug to it. Over a year now, no issues. Definite upgrade.
https://www.amazon.com/Alinan-Button-Battery-Storage-Container/dp/B09KTVG1Y5

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