Try https://www.dutchpinball.com/bride_of_pinbot_2.0_downloads
As far as the heads go, it will ask you what the current head is when you switch between 1.0 and 2.0. 1.0 being the one with the hole for the mouth, default 2.0 head is #3 which is the one before the human face, not the one with the holes in the eyes.

There are some unused connectors in the head when the kit gets installed. You can check it out in the link provided.

Not sure about the 1.0 ROM stuff as I haven't had to mess with any of that myself.

For general information, I can confirm that this display works with BoP 2.0 and my blackout issues are history. Thank you!

I knew it! Gonna order one just in case!

I'm a member of the club! Got my 2.0 kit and everything is working ok with one exception--my right flipper flips, but is not registering in test or in the game choosing menu, lane change, inputing initials, or video mode. I suspect something on the power driver board for that switch but before I pull that and start hunting I thought I would see if anyone else has had a similar issue. The two strange things are that I'm certain it worked with my original BOP setup, so, unless something happened during the 2.0 install, I suppose it's possibly a P-Roc issue? The other strange thing is that neither left nor right flipper registers in test for 2.0 (even though the left functions correctly) but in 1.0 the left does register in test (right flipper doesn't register in either). Thanks for any help.

Has anyone had their 2.0 boot up like this? What was the solution?

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I have seen that before when helping a mate with his BoP 2.0 - looks like your bios battery is failing and BIOS settings are being lost.

Here is a link to replacing the battery on the Zotac model and also what the BIOS settings need to be restored to: https://forums.dutchpinball.com/viewtopic.php?p=1028#p1028

If you have the Gigabyte model - the battery is much easier to replace as it's a regular button battery - these are the settings for that model: https://forums.dutchpinball.com/viewtopic.php?p=1018#p1018

If you go into your BIOS settings at start up and fix the settings, you will be able to boot into the game - but as soon as power is cut from the machine, the settings will be lost again. But it will at least let you play while you source the battery.

You’re computer has defaulted to trying to boot using UEFI, but Win7 wants standard BIOS

In BOP 2.0, in the Display menu, there are a bunch of choices for Dots, Magnification, etc.

Any recommendations for optimizations, changes, or ANY EXPLANATION of what any of that stuff is?

-Rob

I moved my 2.0 to the other side of the room and now it won't boot up.

I bought a kit years ago and it never worked properly. I had some help troubleshooting and everything was a dead end. I even had another Pinsider image a hard drive, did not help. It came with a Gigabyte PC. I found a Zotac PC on ebay, I understand that is what they used for a different run. I swapped the RAM from the Zotac into the Gigabyte, and it still didn't run properly. The CPU usage is pegged and the game lags. I don't think the Gigabyte has any serviceable parts other than RAM and HDD. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I did get the Zotac to run, and the game is finally working. My issue now is powering on and off. It looked like the Gigabyte soldered wires to the power switch, so I replicated that on the Zotac. I figured it would work or not, but it sort of works sometimes. It never turns it on, but it will turn it off. But then it turns back on. I'm wondering if it's a BIOS setting or something. Any ideas? Maybe I should try and find a working Gigabyte Mini PC.

Edit: BIOS settings seemed to fix the issue. Zotac BIOS settings are here for anyone interested.
https://forums.dutchpinball.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42&p=1028&hilit=zotac#p1028

Barry helped me to get it up and running again. For quick reference, if you happen to replace the CMOS battery, do this https://forums.dutchpinball.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=187

Updated the BIOS after replacing the battery and all good. Thanks!

Hello everyone,

I knew that Bop 2.0 can be finicky, but I couldn't resist! So here I am officially among you!

Of course I didn't escape the whims of the improved fiancé... Everything is going well for me in version 2.0, but version 1 is a disaster!

Display problem too small, cavernous and almost inaudible sounds...

I am in version 1.21, does it have specific settings?

Thanks in advance.

Stephane.

I am thinking about converting my BOP 2.0 back to standard BOP. . .

Is there still interest in this kit?

Curious why would you want to do that?

Played my fair share over the years and miss the old version and the displays. Kinda done with it I guess.

Will certainly miss that pumping base though. . . Guess the motivation to de-convert is dependent on if anyone wants a used kit

You do know you can play both versions correct?

Next time you turn on your 2.0, press and hold the start game button. Don’t let go! Just wait and see what happens.

You can play both versions but DP didn't do a good conversion on the original sound track, its missing a ton of the original depth. I have played it on mine but hate it, doesn't sound nearly as good as before I converted to 2.0 so I dont play the original anymore such a let down.

You need to update to the latest code. It’s a huge improvement !

I agree. The latest code update fixed the horrible sound on 1.0. I honestly can't tell a big difference between Williams BoP and Dutch Pinball 1.0 now.

The best part of 2.0 though is the ability to change the music and sounds. I have a bunch of cool music and some of the sounds/music from Total Nuclear Annihilation. It was pretty simple to change them out.

I was disappointed in the lag on the sound for the original.
I’m not sure how recent the new code is.

The lag is fixed with the updated code, it incorporates pinsound software. We worked for a few years to get all the gentlemen involved to get the fix implemented

It’s not perfect, but it is very well implemented now

I could have sworn I posted...but don't see it. I forgot how to update code on this 2.0 set-up. Do I have to hook up a keyboard to do it? Guess I will have to look into it again.

There's a step by step guide on the DP site: https://www.dutchpinball.com/bride_of_pinbot_2.0_software

The latest version can also be downloaded from the link above (1.21)

- Download the .zip file of the latest software version (without renaming the file and without extracting the zip - some browsers have a setting to do this automatically, so disable that if needed).

- Copy this .zip file to the root (meaning not in a subfolder) of a USB memory stick.

- Start your BoP2.0 machine and insert your USB memory stick in a free USB port of the mini computer.

- Enter the Service Menu and go down to "Software Menu" -> "USB Update".

- Now you'll see a list of the available versions on your USB memory stick that are not yet installed. Select the version you want to install.

- Wait for "downloading" and "installing" to finish. The menu will then jump to where you can "Select" the new version.

- Select the new version and confirm the NO / YES question by pressing the "right" (Volume Up) button.

- The game will restart using the new code.

Very well implemented.

Hey I got to say thank you for the suggestion to update my code. Woohoo! Original soundtrack is back in its original blazing glory!!!!!!

Glad you like it, took a lot of effort (and persuasion between parties) to get the update released!

How recent is the update?
I’m wondering if it’s newer than the one I have

1.21 was released about a year ago.

If you ever have to replace the CMOS battery for the bios, I would recommend using a battery holder (for the 3v batteries) instead of the expensive sealed CMOS batteries that come in it. I had one of the first couple 2.0 systems maybe 8 years ago? My first battery lasted about 5 years and then the ones I have been buying from Amazon (and others) only last a year or even less. (they are probably old stock) Last time, I bought the holder and soldered the wires with the plug to it. Over a year now, no issues. Definite upgrade.
https://www.amazon.com/Alinan-Button-Battery-Storage-Container/dp/B09KTVG1Y5

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So the worst possible thing happened tonight, I went to investigate why my BoP 2.0 was having such a hard time booting up. I had recently replaced the battery but it wouldn't boot and I'd often have to manually boot it. Needless to say when I pulled the glass and opened the headbox one of the power button leads from the PC fell out of the screw terminals and fell onto one of the fuse holders below and killed my PC. Does anyone have a source/recommendation for spares or even a modern replacement? I had the Gigabyte model.

Did you try Amazon?

It’s a ~10 year old machine, Amazon and other computer/electronics retailers don’t have anything that old that would be a drop in replacement as far as my knowledge.

Lol! Did you look? Google it then and find one. That’s what I did when I picked up a spare not too long ago. Best of luck !

Uhhh. Yes. I tried that. I wouldn’tve posted here had that worked. I searched for the model, what did you search for?

Surprised then if it didn’t come up. I don’t remember exactly what I searched under. Maybe you can try DP directly and see if they can help. I think you may need another ssd card / image if you didn’t back up your existing.

I pulled my hdd and it worked luckily. I was able to pull an image and mirrored it and put it on a cheap new 128gb ssd drive. I also managed to find a lot of stripped machines on fleabay. I’m probably going to try to cobble together 2 working machines and then test and offer the rest up here if anyone wants spares for a backup machine. Should get them by the end of the week.

I might be in on that, wouldn’t hurt to build a backup

Does anyone else have issues where their machine won’t start when it’s been powered down for awhile?
I get backglass lights and operational flippers, the audio cues that the pc is on…
That’s about all she wants to do.
No display, cannot start a game

Have you tried hooking up a different monitor to confirm the display is working?

When you say "audio cues" I assume amp pops/hums but just confirming.

I don’t have another monitor to check it.
By audio cues, there’s a power on and power off tone that plays.
In any event today it will boot up and play but with intermittent display issues.
This actually happened right from go when I originally installed it.
Checked connections, emailed Dutch.
It just kind of resolved itself by slowly working better until I had display all the time. I was turning the machine on almost daily without issue. Haven’t played it in months and it’s back to forgetting how to work correctly.
I don’t understand how/why it does that.
Wondering if other owners experienced the same.

That's odd, it really does kinda sound like a display issue. Like the inverter/backlight is failing and has a short in it and after a bit it warms up it kicks in.
So when it's black/going on and off, can you take a flashlight and shine it on an angle and see anything on the screen? Or does the screen just have the "No Signal" box on it?

It turns white actually.
White with lines, flickering blocks.
I’ll take a photo.
It seems to be cued almost to game play.
It will start normal but turn white when a ball is launched and in play etc.
Be normal again for the next ball or after a drain.

It really does sound like it could be a display/panel issue. The only way to rule that out would be hooking up another monitor/tv with an hdmi input. If you don’t have one either ask around to borrow one or run to a goodwill/Salvation Army / resale shop and get a cheap one or a Best Buy and buy one and return it if you don’t need it otherwise.

Was able to build a new working one with the parts / mirrored hdd. Trying to get the WiFi sorted out though. Ended up buying and adding the remote battery holder that was mentioned externally and running a smaller gauge lead line in so I can change the battery/turn it off for a bios reset without fighting with the bios post screen. Soldered it to the original holder and works great.

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So I was able to finally test / weed out my fleaBay pile of barebones systems and I figured I'd offer them up here to see if anyone was interested. These are tested and I was able to boot to windows / fire up the BoP 2.0 software on them.

These do not come come with RAM, nor a hard drive / cable nor a case bottom. They're mostly clean but the cases are a little dirty / scuffed. Also, the relay leads for the power button would have to be installed. But these are a drop in for the original BoP 2.0 PC with those items. I also pulled all the CMOS batteries as these were problematic and I had to monkey through a boot loop to finally get Windows to boot. I had 6 of these and I was able to get 5 of them running. I'm using 1 and keeping a spare so I have 3 for sale.
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Two of them have CPU fan failures on post. The fans are BSB05505HP-SM - They're like $5-10 or if you're feeling frisky you can disable the boot warning in the CMOS.

I'm selling these AS IS but I can help if you need. I also have some spare battery holders too so if you like the idea of having the battery remote and aren't handy enough to do it, we can probably work something out. Same goes for soldering the power leads to the switch. Or if you need a ssd with the image on it setup for your key, etc. Looking to get around $45-50 + shipping for one mobo + case + wifi - depending on if you want the good fan or not. You can always swap the fan on your original one down the road if it comes to it. PM me if interested or have questions.

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I’m having a strange issue where the left flipper is inop upon selecting which version to play. Works fine in game play
I do have Scott d flipper mod installed . Thoughts???