Quoted from jlm33:It's a dying breed in France for sure. Far more places getting rid of pins than wanting to get one. I actually should update some locations on the pin map nearby and delete them as pins are gone. The ones that remain are often barely functional.
A local Coin op mentioned that a bubble gum distributor (which costs 50x less than a pin) makes more money than his pins. No / Zero / Nada chance an operator would buy a NIB pin for more than 6000 euros - the max price they were ready to pay was more like 4000 euros (excluding sales tax)... even stern pros are now above that threshold.
The pinball renaissance you are seeing is not a general phenomenon.
Hopefully the pinball agony I am seeing is not general either.
That's unfortunate and I guess I'm not surprised. With the exchange rate plus import taxes, I don't see how it could be viable to operate new Stern games there which would leave you with more older games and older games typically require more maintenance. Operating new games in the US is expensive enough and the operator has to rely on a games residual value to even make it work here. The days of games fully paying for themselves are long gone. Hopefully things turn around for you over there. Maybe once Heighway get's their legs under them and they start pumping out product in quantities, there will be a more cost effective alternative for Europe than Stern.
Quoted from rosh:Not sure the growth is universal, across the country or globe. Big metropolitan areas seem to have the resurgence, not sure that has spread all over. And you are certainly correct, I am not as focused as I once was in finding machines on location since I started collecting (which was when the arcade near me shut down in 99, and that I later learned was a beta test site for Williams -- which explained why the place had a killer lineup). Now I need to go no further than my basement or go to your basement or lionman's basement or PBL or . . .
Yeah, it's obvious by the responses that it's not universal and Chicago's no Portland, but we have seen a nice bump here. Stern's success can't be exclusively attributed to the home collector either though. And you're right, it's easy to get spoiled with so many good basement collections around.
Now back on topic, waiting for DP to deliver, so we can get out there and play some TBL on location.