I just watched this series. It had a fair amount of good material in it but it also had some really bad ideas. Whose idea was it to insert cyberpunk characters into star wars and have them drive around hot rod motorcycles on tattoine? All of that was awful.

The Book of Boba Fett (1985)

If Stern ever makes a Boba Fett pin, we need a feature/mech in which the playfield tilts back to a 1 degree slope, so the balls will have the correct speed for vespa chase multiball...

I've been avoiding this thread until I finished the series, well I finally finished it last night and I have some thoughts!

It was pretty good.

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Well, I guess I'm the grumpy SW fan who is never happy anymore - I thought BoBF was borderline crap. Ruined by just bad writing for action scenes with stupid "tactics" like standing in the open during shootouts (not even taking about the western style gunfight scenes), the absolutely atrocious "mod" characters and their retarded Vespas, the Wookie just shrugging off getting blasted repeatedly, etc etc etc. The originals and even prequels were just not done this hamhandely. Rogue One was right up there as well, nothing like this latest crap since the sequel trilogy. This has totally ruined SW for me.

I mean there were cool moments here and there, same with Mando really (the Jedi scenes were awesome), but it's just obviously Disney-fied to death with stupid side characters and lazy scripting/writing with painfully cheesy action scenes.

Rogue One and to a far lesser extent Solo were the only good SW content of late imo.

I'll just leave this here and see how it ages!

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Well you have to call it they way it is...Every show has to be judged separately. Kenobi could be great...I don't know. But I already know Andor is going to be good because Gilroy is the show runner

When the prequels were released, everybody bagged on them, including me. And a lot of that negativity was definitely justified. But even at that time, most people would agree that Ewan McGregor's portrayal of Obiwan was the bright spot of the prequels. As time passed & the Clone Wars cartoon fleshed out that era, people enjoyed his portrayal even more. It's pretty rare when two actors play the same role & both are equally embraced.

McGregor has wanted to return to the role for years. They have a great writer & director with a defined story to tell. Everyone loves the dynamic of Owiban & Vader, which will be further explored, and likely resolve Darth Maul's vengeance storyline, while trying to protect young Luke from an existential threat. Heavy subjects & emotions featured. It's a limited series, so I'm expecting a low episode count & very little fluff or filler episodes. Basically a 3.5 hour movie broken into 6 episodes.

Really looking forward to it

It's really amazing how the opinions have softened on the prequels over the years. I watched the again with my kids for the first time last year and quite enjoyed them. It helped to watch them through my kids eyes and not my krusty self. They're not perfect, but they're solid Star Wars films.

And yes Ewan was/is great and I can't wait for his show.

The Prequels were 100% garbage.

Always were ALWAYS will be.

Trash.

I love Episode III. II is pretty good.... if you get rid of all the Anikan/Padme romance scenes (and C3P0 & droid factory adventure). Episode I is still hot garbage, other than Darth Maul & Qui-Gon Jinn.

Again all the seasons of the Clone Wars cartoon really helped to soften my opinions of the prequel era. Lucas still a lousy director tho. My 2 cents at least.

My have actually gone the other way. Even the fan edit that chopped half the footage out of the three movies was unwatchable and I gave up after 20 minutes.

Ewan McGregor was the best thing to come out of that hot mess and Darth Maul.

For me, BoBF was not total garbage. But it’s failure had more to do with the success of Mando seasons 1 and 2. We just didn’t need another series like this after Mando.

Boba Fett was always going to be limited by his brief backstory in the prequels and original trilogy. The miscalculation they made was that he is actually more interesting as a side character, mysterious, occupying the edges of the storyline.

He’s not a main character. It’s interesting that George Lucas embraced this.

I contend a lot could have been done with the character, Disney choose their current path in the most hamfisted way possible because they needed content in a hurry.

Boba in between clone was and empire bounty hunting.. but then again we effectively have that series in the Mandolorian.

I liked episode 1. Take Jar jar out and rewrite the kid's dialog, and it's a damn good movie.

I haven't read any rumors, and the story has really been kept under wraps.

But for the Obi-Won show, I'm hoping it's heavily focused on him. 10 year old Luke & the aunt/uncle will make an appearance obviously, but I hope they are not central to the plot of the show. Have them run into watchful Obi-Won at market or something, Uncle Owen giving him the stink eye, etc.

I'm hoping the story focuses on Maul's Crimson Dawn Syndicate & his relentless quest for revenge against Obi-Won. This dynamic was explored in the cartoons, but it needs a final live-action resolution. Teasing Maul at the end of Solo made it pretty clear that he was going to be featured in future live-action at some point.

Perhaps when Obiwan is eventually found by Maul's hunters, I hope he realizes he must get off Tatooine before Maul discovers Luke. At this period of time, Vader is still clueless that he even has children, so I don't think the Empire will be the threat that Obiwan faces. I hope there is a heavy emphasis on the emotional burden that Obi-Won still carries for failing his friend, and lots of nightmares haunting him. Or have live-action Clone Wars battle flashbacks with Hayden Christensen, even showing young Ashoka Tano as Annakin's padawan. Just connect the dots for viewers who haven't seen the cartoons. Reach out for force ghost advice with Quai-Jon. Cross paths with the Empire. Show Vader hunting down rogue Jedi. Get help from Bail Organa, or even members of the young republic like Hera Sendula. There's a lot to explore. And no need for fluff episodes. 6 episodes isn't many.

And please no Grogu.....I know he's insta-ratings, but not everything new at Disney+ has to be tied to him in some way. Based on what Obi-Wan said in ESB about Luke ("that boy is our last hope"), it's pretty clear he didn't even know Grogu existed. And if you ask me, when Yoda said "No...there is another", he was referring to Grogu, not Leia. Of course that kind of retconning would decrease Leia's significance, and I don't think Kennedy would ever allow that to happen on her watch.

I hope everything leads to a final showdown that resolves Darth Maul's story line. They sat on a Obi-Won movie for years, they have a good story to tell. If the entire show occurs on Tatooine, that will be disappointing to say the least. Fingers crossed! In 90 days!!

That would be a huge retcon, as obviously it was always about Leia.

Having said that, the more they mine that period of Star Wars story, the retconning is going to continue. Those early movies weren't built for so much universe expansion. Things are starting to get creaky.

Not really though. Lucas was making it up as he went along. When he wrote the Star Wars screenplay, they weren't brother & sister. In the Splinter of the Mind's Eye book (which followed ANH & the author had Lucas' blessing), they were a budding love interest. They still weren't siblings in ESB, just the vague "there is another throwaway line".

Lucas likes to say it was his plan all along, but I think he's obviously done some mental retconning on this subject himself. If that was his intention all along, why would Obiwan say "That boy is our last hope"? He was present at Luke & Leia's birth after all. He knew about Leia.

By ROTJ Lucas committed fully to the sibling storyline, but it was a pretty weak reveal at that point. She never really showed any sensitivity or use of the force in the original trilogy, until she was flying like superman in the cold vacuum of space in Episode 8.

No I'd argue the "There is another" line makes more sense if it refers to Grogu. Yoda knew about him, kept him secretly hidden away in the temple from all the other Jedi. The last hope, the hidden backup plan. Everyone was clueless except of Mace Windu, his right man man in the Prequels. If you ask me, when they eventually reveal who saved Grogu from the assault on the Jedi Temple, it will be Mace, who survived the his fall & hustled ass back to the temple & smuggled Grogu out quietly, but ultimately failed to protect him. I mean you don't think Samuel L Jackson wouldn't love to revisit that character again? He always complained that he never got a chance to show what a badass he was with a lightsaber. Or maybe they never tell that story. He was taken by commandos. Simple as that.

Sorry guys. Got derailed from the nerd rails for a minute.

How would that work when they already did it in Rebels?

I'm thoroughly surprised there hasn't been a Mace Windu series announced. He would have easily survived a push out of a window. And Jackson would love it, he begged Lucas to be a part of Star Wars.

That is true, but boy did I hate that episode. I know it's "cannon", but when a big name director has a better idea for these stories for a big budget, billion dollar subscriber generating show/movie..... are the producers at Lucasfilm REALLY going to say.....oh yeah, well some no name comic book writer covered that in issue blah blah of a book that 99% of people never read. Sorry that subject is off limits. I don't think so.

I guess there was some clamoring how Luke could have had Yoda's lightsaber & presented to Grogu. It was lost duirng his battle with the Emperor in Episode 3. The convenient explanation was "oh he had a spare". That's fine. 40+ years of storytelling.... you have to look past some little things for the good of storytelling.

They can still have an Obi-Wan show where he runs into Maul & they both survive. In the cartoon he was old & grey when he faced Maul. A new run-in just has to take place off of Tatooine, which is why I think Obi-Wan will be going off on some off-world adventure for this show.

I thought this same theory forever ago in the Mando Pinball thread. Its just so dumb for yoda to say that and everyone assume he meant Leia because obiwan literally was there as Leia popped out. And it wouldnt really "retcon" anything because theres no hard confirmation in the movies that he was talking about Leia, its always just been a simple assumption.

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Ive always had an obsession with "The Other" for as long as I can remember. I really wanted it to somehow tie into Rey but thats before TLJ came out and drove a dagger through the heart of Star Wars

I really enjoyed Mando. I did not enjoy BoBF.

I have a bugaboo about character power being consistent. And they were all over the map with it.

And what the hell is up with their armor?? It doesn’t cover them completely, yet every blaster hit when their back is turned hits the armor?? Their feet are exposed by a floating car, but no shots there? A blaster can destroy that vehicle but not them? The slow rolling mod scooters? Predictable and poorly done, pretty boring.

It sounds harsh, but it was everything I hate about Star Wars, and I love Star Wars.

You have to look at it from a story writing perspective, not from the perspective of a viewer.

Lucas had no firm ideas for the Star Wars trilogy let alone 3 prequels in some distant future. Rewrites for Empire were happening almost daily, one of the reasons it's a more cohesive film is Lucas didn't direct it, he was busy writing.

Odds are it was a throw away line or at best referred to Leia once he decided (late in the process as a matter of fact) Vader was their father.

Your trying to stuff a round peg in a square hole. You are correct, but its just a screw up on Lucas part.

Yeah it’s a screw up but if that theory came to fruition it would be amazing and close yet another plot hole or after thought in Star Wars. The only thing that can’t be fixed at this point is watching Leia kiss Luke like she did in ESB. Pretty much everything else is so wide open and any creative writer has the ability to correct. Especially Dave Filoni.
I can’t wait to see the whole planet’s mind melt when he brings Ezra Bridger to live action and retcons all episodes 7-9 with the world between worlds.

i can live with that.

It wasn't just him. Carrie Fisher was involved in rewires as well.

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Spot on:

I enjoyed the show but that made me laugh.

This is a good watch if you have an extra 8 minutes

crickets.....

Anything new to chat about??

Not so much Boba Fett but,…
Kenobi is coming out in a month. Rumor is 2 episodes are releasing at the same time because there’s a post credit scene introducing Hayden as Vader in a bacta tank, same one in Rogue One. Release was push back 2 days but then they released 2 episodes coming out at once. All rumors so far.

Cool

Thanks for the update

Not a rumor about 2 episodes. The first two come out on May 27th

Holy crap Disney is selling those speeders from Boba Fett!!! This lady was flying by me a second ago!

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Please post the picture where she knocks random boxes from trucks and buildings into your car as she jets by you. Also check if she is not wearing sunscreen in the heat. She isn't wearing a hood and she has left off her mechanical augmentations (unless they aren't visible).

Oh boy, started to rewatch this on Disney Plus last night and now I remember the biker gang on scooters