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Quoted from J85M:And the irony is Dalton was disliked as his Bond was by far the most violent and brutal compared to Moore, Lazenby and Connery.
Both brilliant films just 30 years ahead of their time for critics and viewers at the time.
Dalton's bond is closest to the Ian Fleming character, followed by Connery. Dalton's Licensed to Kill, is actually Fleming's The Man with the Golden Gun novel.
Fleming's books generally are much better, but it is what it is.
Quoted from mstang01:The Daniel Craig bond series is the only one I’d watch at this point (or get my kids to watch). To me it was part of the grittier reboots of Batman, Star Trek, and Bond that I really preferred to the old camp. I bought all the old Moore/Connery films as a bundle thinking I’d relive my childhood, lol, but they’re pretty painful to watch now as a lot of 60’s/70’s films are. At least these weren’t full of 70’s folk music for their soundtracks, it’s funny how terrible movie music was in a period that had such great music . I have no problem with the Connery films as a pin theme though, can’t wait.
The only decent Craig movie was Casino Royale as it was somewhat based on the novel. The others were trash that will be long forgotten while people are still discussing if Moonraker is a guilty pleasure or not.
Well, those and Die Another Day which should have every print and DVD rounded up and destroyed.
Quoted from snaroff:Casino Royale was more than decent, it's one of the best Bond films ever made (8.0 imdb rating). The chemistry/energy between Bond and Vesper was actually believable, unlike most of the other cartoonish women in other Bond films.
Could have been. They dumbed down Baccarat and took out all of the suspense of the game and the match. The ending sinking Venice sequence was a bore. But they did get the torture scene and car chase pretty good, so there is that.
But worse - they dumbed down Bond which is why I don't like Craig. He's just a muscle with no charm, wit, elegance, or class. The Fleming Bond couldn't be different.
Quoted from J85M:Gun barrel topper would be cool and a classic bond moment that never gets old.
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Whoever came up with that idea was a genius.
I think Moore's opening was the best, nice and smooth. Every time I went to see a new Bond film in the theater, that was the most anticipated scene for me.
Having said that, I love the Dr. No one the most (one up above) - with the dot expanding and the ambient instruments.
Quoted from PiperPinball:Make it 3 here! Roger Moore is the best Bond hands down. And Octopussy was and still is great! 1983 at its finest!
This would have been an incredible, fun pinball theme. So many assets to use from that movie!
But then again Stern is going for the older demographic (baby boomers) with Sean Connery. Guess that is where the money is currently.
Make it 4. My favorites are For Your Eyes Only (Best bond film period), Live and Let die, and From a View to a Kill.
Also have a soft spot for Moonraker.....it is the best Fleming novel. If only they would have made Drax like that of the novel.......
Quoted from PersonX99:That's what most Americans saw and that is all they know. Check out the Toho films from the 1990s and the 2000s. They are way better, less kiddy orientated, and Godzilla is a total badass. The American films are a separate genre, not to be confused with the Toho Godzilla. Also, I highly recommend the original Godzilla from 54 in the original Japanese with subtitles. A much more serious film that makes a lot more sense than the cheesey American cut version.
Disagree. They suck mostly. Mothera and Billanete and not worth the time. The Gamera films are much better fro from this era....and the American version of Godzilla (54) is better.
Just saying.
Quoted from docquest:Yeah that was cool that they gave him some exended continuity in the Craig Bond films with Jeffrey Wright.
My favorite Felix was David Hedison. He got to play Felix in first Moore Bond film (Live and Let Die) and then in the last Dalton film (License To Kill).
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I like Jack Lord the best, but loved that Hedison got to play him twice.
Only thing with Felix, is that in the novels he was very Texan.
Quoted from Tmuster:That’s me. I’ve already got 9 original bond posters in my game room as well as a goldeneye pin with a goldeneye framed poster.
My prefence would be for the LE thunderball. The thunderball posters are legit. A decent thunderball poster is north of 20k. My original Roger Moore posters are around 2-3k. I’d love a LE bond pin that has the thunderball poster on it that I can’t afford.
Alas I’ve only heard the LE’s are full and don’t have the stomach for the flippers.
I've got quite a few too. Love the poster art.....Oldest I have is a nice HS of From Russia With Love.
Dr. No - Goldfinger had the best art. Thuderball started getting goofy, and YOLT is horrible. Diamonds One Sheet is iconic. The Moores are mostly pretty good all throughout the run - except FYEO which is the best of the bunch.
Quoted from Tmuster:I’ve got them all. Although only 9 or so originals. I love them. So cheesy but iconic. One of my favs is the living daylights - last artist rendered one. Everything after that is pretty average.
I didn't know that was the last artist drawn one. While I love the older Connery ones, the Moore posters with all the action in the peripherals are the best and most borrowed from other movies. Live and Let Die/Man with the Golden Gun/Moonraker are the big three.
For Your Eyes Only is interesting. Not only is the movie more realistic in nature, so is the poster. Very simple.
Quoted from taz:Dr. No is an underappreciated movie. I saw it again recently and loved the Three Blind Mice music. I hope it makes it into the game somehow. I especially love how Bond surprised the hot spy girl by showing up at her villa, did other things with her, dropped her into the police car afterwards, and killed her boss. Classic bond!
Dr No is a great movie. That scene where he kills him in cold blood with the silencer and unarmed is pretty good.
Quoted from Rockytop:For those of you who like the movies, you should read the books. I've seen every Bond movie many times and love them, but I still prefer the books of course. Bond in the books is much more real/human/vulnerable. Fleming was a great storyteller, and had an excellent ability to create a rich world.
Lots of great authors have written James Bond novels as well. Most recently, Anthony Horowitz has written some great ones.
Some of my favorites from Fleming.
Moonraker - maybe the best and a million times better, and completely different, than the movie....which is my least favorite Bond film
From Russia with Love
Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice is kind of a trilogy Fleming did pitting Bond against Blofeld.
Totally agree. The Fleming books are fantastic, even the short stories are great. Fleming still isn't considered a great author, but his knowledge of intelligence protocols come out strong and his writing is tight and never dulls or goes into boredom.
Probably the best book is Moonraker - half of the book is Bond trying to find out that Drax is cheating at cards and Fleming goes into a lot of detail of M's club. It's great reading and the character of Drax is fantastic.
Some of the movies are pretty close - Dr No, Goldfinger, Thunderball, HMSS, even Live and Let Die. From Russia with Love is the closest and literally has a lot of the original dialog. Others...especially the Moore films, are not although they do use several of the short stories for certain scenes. I just rewatched Octupussy and I realized they included a synopsis of the original story! I never caught that before.
Fleming's Bloefeld trilogy is probably the worst of the bunch. They were written towards the end of his life and he started to become impacted with some of the negative press he was receiving (too much violence).
The one that I wish they would have stuck close to is The Spy Who Loved Me. For some reason that I have not found, when Fleming sold the rights to Eon, there was a clause that said they could only use the title and none of the plot. It would have been an interesting movie if done correctly. The Man with the Golden Gun isn't close at all, but they actually used the plot for License to Kill, which is very close to Fleming's last novel.
Quoted from romulusx:Are you guys saying you don’t like any Craig movies or just the last one?Casino Royale and Skyfall are the best Bond movies. imho
I don't care for them at all. Casino Royale is ok but the others are not my cup of tea. I haven't even watched the last one....
Quoted from TreyBo69:Continuing my Connery thon
Goldfinger was great. The overall quality of production/budget increase from Dr No to Russia to Goldfinger continues.
I think Dr No set a lot of the style of the movie franchise. From Russia with Love refined the template. Goldfinger executes on all the lessons learned.
The acting and characters of Goldfinger is the high so far, though I think I prefer the story of From Russia with Love. If I had to recommend just one Connery Bond so far, it’s Goldfinger. But I had more fun with Russia.
I also hope there is some sort of Goldfinger mode that uses all the footage of the soldiers being gassed. Watching all those different scenes of extras “falling” asleep is hilarious. I also had a giant lol at the Odd Job hat throw at the statue. I knew the hat was a thing, but seeing something so stupid taken so seriously broke my brain for a second.
I started Thunderball but turned it off after 30 minutes. I’ll try again this weekend. It was a bit of a slow start coming in off Goldfinger.
You have to remember the times and circumstances when and how these were made. What is Goldfinger - 57 years old?
EON was not the first company to film one of Fleming's books so there was a lot going on behind the scenes.
And Goldfinger kind of was the apex of the early series. Like all franchise - each movie has to be better than the last. Is it the best? All depends who you ask, but it certainly is one of the top 3.
Quoted from kklank:I keep hearing people say over and over…”I just watched a Connery Bond film and it seems dated.”
No shit Sherlock !!
The old Bond films are close to 60 years old.
What were you expecting? Lol.
Keep those observations coming Captain Obvious.
I can't believe there are so many people who never saw the old Bond movies. Next thing you know they will tell us the Beatles music is outdated.
Quoted from KingVidiot:The “man talk” ass slap is pretty cringey, but other than the usual overt sexism in movies from this time, it’s a damn fine film.
FFS - listen to hiphop nowadays and you'll find more "cringey" material in 2 minutes than all of the Bond films put together from 60 years.
Let's keep it real.
Quoted from Chambahz:I don’t think the “but that thing is worse”-defence is the point.
Sure it is. When one state "it hasn't aged well" but then common pop culture is 1000X worse, yeah - it is the point. A comparison is being made to the current era and the comparison isn't practical nor factual.
Just state that it offends you, and that's fine. I respect people who don't want certain games in their house as they want to present positive role model for their children. It's all good.
Quoted from Ribs:I think you are being too kind. Contemporaries knew it was wrong at the time for the same reason we know it is wrong now, and the people making these films were aware of that criticism, and they did it anyways. Women were in real non-objectified roles doing non-secretary things long before Bond. 20s, 30s old Hollywood is full of leading women that make Bond's treatment of women seem of Neanderthal origins.
Hell, let's talk about what the Hollywood elite have done and continue to do to this day. The two Coreys for $1?
It's all hypocrisy and shit.
Quoted from Damonator:OK, I vote we drop the current tangent and move on to "Bond Girls Then and Now".
I thought it then and I still think it now...Kim Basinger for the win.
I don't think Basinger was in a real Bond movie was she?
Tough to pick only one, but I'll go with Diana Rigg, hers was the most human of the bunch. Although Jane Seymour was a treat and probably aged the best.
Quoted from Bublehead:Bond has a government issued “license to kill”. Seeing as that is the ultimate violation of a persons rights, why are we talking about all the other felonies he commits on a regular basis? Seems he has plenty to ask forgiveness for from that alone. And M is the one with real blood on his/her hands by granting the license, but I digress. For King and Country! as they would say…
C'mon - how many lives as he saved? Almost every movie had a nuclear attack that Bond stopped, let alone the whole planet earth in Moonraker.
And we're asking how he sleeps at night? Damn well I say.
Quoted from sanctumwear:Happy Birthday to Sir Roger Moore he would've been 95 today, a great Bond actor.[quoted image]
That image is cringy...man is in a full tailor made suite and the women are scantly clad, helpless and hiding behind him? Wow. 
Taken from Man with the Golden Gun - not the best in the Moore catalog, but decent enough only because of Lee (totally underused) and the other support cast.
Quoted from pinballcorpse:I'm often puzzled by long ball time comments-not just here but on other modern games as well.
If players want a game with deep code, how can it can simultaneously have short ball times? How would one ever get to experience the code?
If players want short ball times, why not just buy an EM with 2" flippers and save some money?
We do that too.
See Ghostbusters or TWD. Great examples of games with short ball times.
Quoted from Utesichiban:Does anyone listen to these Bond songs fron the 60's anymore? I listened to Goldfinger and Thunderball today and was underwhelmed... but I digress.
I guess my question is who is buying or willing to fork out big bucks for these songs in 2023?
All the time on vinyl. The Dr. No and Goldfinger soundtracks are the best.
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