How much is Bond Pro/Prem/LE? Look forward to seeing gameplay video.
Ended up getting an LE on Stern’s site. I was hitting refresh and was shocked to see the “add to cart” button lit up. I was guessing they would go quick, so I hoped my shipping information was good (after California tax sticker shock of over 1K) and, luckily, was able to complete the transaction. It definitely went fast.
My first new pin since LOTR 20 years ago.
Quoted from iloveplywood:If you're surprised but you buy, stern was right and you were wrong about the market value if these machines.
Oh they are right this time, no doubt. They are no dummies. I hope to change my willpower and wallet next time tho.
Quoted from fooflighter:In Cart
Hard Pass at $14500
If I can point out a possible silver lining, and maybe I'm being naive, but maybe fewer flippers at this price since it's starting out so high?
Anyway, can you blame Stern for raising the price of the LE so much? They all sold out instantly (or well ahead of time). I'm not happy about it but it's the state of the hobby today.
I can't tell if this is going to be a fun game or not without real gameplay footage. Any word when I can tune into that?
Quoted from CryHavoc:Price bump for all pins or just Bond?
For all pins as of Jan 1 is what I heard. 10K premiums lol
Well, I don't think the Stern Insider LE sellout after going for sale a minute early will stop people from buying Stern Pins...
...but not so sure about maintaining the renewals on the Insider subscriptions...
Those GameExchange estimates for shipping are a bummer if true. Very unlike Stern to release a game without shipment following shortly after.
Quoted from Randalsb:Ended up getting an LE on Stern’s site. I was hitting refresh and was shocked to see the “add to cart” button lit up. I was guessing they would go quick, so I hoped my shipping information was good (after California tax sticker shock of over 1K) and, luckily, was able to complete the transaction. It definitely went fast.
My first new pin since LOTR 20 years ago.
Good for you. This story makes me happy.
Quoted from bemmett:+1, I'm doing this one just cause I love Bond and game looks really cool but this may be my last LE at these prices. Hell even the premiums seem way overpriced now. Kind of a shame and hoping market cools down
I’ll wait and see on a Bond Premium. I was interested in Bond LE to have all my Sterns as LEs.
Congrats to those that did get one. Very nice looking game. Hope it plays as well as it looks.
But I hope Stern hasn’t jumped the shark here. $13k seems to be really pushing it. There is literally one potential title left that I’d consider that pricing. And if BTTF doesn’t happen, I’m not considering LEs (and probably not NIB games period).
I just dropped my LE reservation. It's very nice looking, but $13K is silly. Not even sure if the Premium is worth it over the Pro, will need to see gameplay videos to decide. Bond on a wand looks cumbersome and not very fun.
Quoted from andrewket:Ok, someone answer …
When is the deadflip reveal? Tonight?
I hope there is something tonight or tomorrow, need to see more footage.They have to have games built and ready. The ones over in UK last week we’re ready to play.
I also backed out of my LE spot. 13k is dumb. These games are going off the rails.
Glad I already have a full game room of games I enjoy, I don't need anything new.
Quoted from VALIS666:I just dropped my LE reservation. It's very nice looking, but $13K is silly. Not even sure if the Premium is worth it over the Pro, will need to see gameplay videos to decide. Bond on a wand looks cumbersome and not very fun.
The Pro looks like an absolute bargain at $7000.
I still am having difficulty understanding how they are tacking on shipping charges on top of MSRP? Seriously $400 to ship a $13000 game-sorry but I think that is BS
Quoted from pinmister:I still am having difficulty understanding how they are tacking on shipping charges on top of MSRP? Seriously $400 to ship a $13000 game-sorry but I think that is BS
Given what shipping costs today - I'm shocked they hadn't done this before.
Quoted from ezatnova:Haven’t gotten to read all but the last few pages, but seems like the 60th anniversary edition has a bunch of stuff even the LE doesn’t have? It mentions a spinning hat and an in-playfield screen.
On a related note, people balked at me spending 13k for a Lebowski two years ago…now it’s the going rate for a stern-quality machine. Sheesh. Crazy.
Its an entirely different game
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I couldn’t figure out where to do that so I just used (or tried to use) Apple Pay.
But the “Shop” service still sucks. Keep the product in the cart for a few minutes to allow the buyer to complete the transaction. Yanking something away without notice is ridiculous.
I was on the site just a couple seconds past 11:00 a.m. EST and was able to put the game in my cart. When I went to check out it was sold out. Then it was too late.... I'm glad to hear that someone was actually successful.
Quoted from pinmister:I still am having difficulty understanding how they are tacking on shipping charges on top of MSRP? Seriously $400 to ship a $13000 game-sorry but I think that is BS
-Plus taxes that we did not used to have to pay-ouch
Quoted from TheLaw:Nice!
Pro on this for sure
The pro looks like a great shooter. I think I like premium but really, the bond thing is meh and the mech for ball lock... do I need that?
Also the scuba diving thing...looks like anybody with a 3d printer can make something to stick down there...
I am starting to see a big gap in the PRO-PREM and gameplay can steer me on the PRO direction really easily.
What's with the Dildo on the top left of playfield?
Nothing really that great with the art package on the 3 models
Guess a lot of after market cabinet decals will be soon available!
Countdown to the first LE listing on the marketplace for $16k....
I'm betting at 13k a bunch of distro spots open up, but from what I heard from the ones I reached out to, I expect they will fill right back up instantly. That is an absurd price jump, but I will give them credit on keeping the pro price down. Overcharging on cosmetic LE upgrades is reasonable - no one HAS to have an LE to fully enjoy the game. Premiums are getting pretty dear though; at this rate the theme is going to have to SING to get me to buy future games.
My distro just said I'm in the first batch of Premiums...expected delivery date early to mid November.
So I am looking at the pro flyer and features video, it seems there are only 2 interactive toys? The rocket and the car. Seems the building is just static. Debating on whether to sell my Ironman vault to get this.
Quoted from Squizz:What's with the Dildo on the top left of playfield?
People keep saying that but it actually is going to be probably one of the best features in this game? Imagine the balls locked for multi-ball and red lights start blinking on and off and a siren sounds with missile launch type command. Could be stellar-time will tell
Hopefully my imagination will not disappoint
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:I am starting to see a big gap in the PRO-PREM and gameplay can steer me on the PRO direction really easily.
Sad/funny part is I just made it to premium buying level...only to gladly go back to pro
Quoted from Grantman:If I can point out a possible silver lining, and maybe I'm being naive, but maybe fewer flippers at this price since it's starting out so high?
Anyway, can you blame Stern for raising the price of the LE so much? They all sold out instantly (or well ahead of time). I'm not happy about it but it's the state of the hobby today.
Definitely fewer flippers. I don't blame Stern, they will charge as much as the market bears, however, while they are trying to spread pinball, they are at the same time closing the doors to potential buyers, the ceiling is coming quickly on the Premium model. The market of those willing to buy post MSRP LE scalper prices has to be dwindling. Even finding someone to pay $18k markup, only leaves $3500 profit for a lot of work and potential risk.
Is the hobby about collecting, playing, a combination? For me, playing is front and center, I don't understand the collector mentality for bragging or pure speculation/flipping. I can make a premium look 10x's better than an LE for less $. If it's bolted, for me, I can't justify bragging flex.
LE works for me...great looking game......did someone "call" for price on SLE? Scared to hear it, but curious......
Quoted from Squizz:What's with the Dildo on the top left of playfield?
Nothing really that great with the art package on the 3 models
Guess a lot of after market cabinet decals will be soon available!
I thought the same thing as well!
Should be called 'James Dong' > the balls hit it and it flops around like a rubber dildo. lol
This is a hard pass for me.
Typical Gomez layout, clunky, and stop and go. Yawn at the Jet Pack. Reminds me of the hand in JM.
Quoted from Charliew65:Did they say who was coding the game?
I think Nacho Libre is coding the SLE. Not sure about the other ones.
Bond is a top 3 grail theme for me.
The Thunderball LE is the cherry on top. Love the look, different from every other pin I’ve got.
Have fun playing the slot machines in Vegas.
The Elwin game with all Bonds will have to come home too
Quoted from GranpaDave:I was on the site just a couple seconds past 11:00 a.m. EST and was able to put the game in my cart. When I went to check out it was sold out. Then it was too late.... I'm glad to hear that someone was actually successful.
In the end, you might be the big winner on this by missing out. 14K after shipping and taxes is beyond insane.
Chicago gaming LEs are now by far and away the best value in pinball…if they would only not take a year to ship.
Quoted from pinmister:I still am having difficulty understanding how they are tacking on shipping charges on top of MSRP? Seriously $400 to ship a $13000 game-sorry but I think that is BS
I paid $600 to ship a couch once.
$400 to ship a pinball machine is pretty normal.
Quoted from PiperPinball:Typical Gomez layout, clunky, and stop and go
I would not discount Gomez. His designs are stop and go but they are unique and far from fan layout. Avengers is one of his best games made(once Hulk gets dialed in). I like the depth factor, the dual ramps, the missile(is cool imo), but the jetpack does look lame-a swing and a miss
Quoted from JSC:Chicago gaming LEs are now by far and away the best value in pinball…if they would only not take a year to ship.
Just have to live long enough to enjoy one. Still waiting for LEs to hit the line on CCLE
Quoted from CrazyLevi:$400 to ship a pinball machine is pretty normal.
I am not questioning the cost-just spent $630 two days ago
What I am questioning is why charge shipping now in addition to? Do they not have enough already built into overpriced MSRP? This has been recent-like last year or so. Feel it is a little greedy and different from the way it used to be
Quoted from PiperPinball:I thought the same thing as well!
Should be called 'James Dong' > the balls hit it and it flops around like a rubber dildo. lol
This is a hard pass for me.
Typical Gomez layout, clunky, and stop and go. Yawn at the Jet Pack. Reminds me of the hand in JM.
Agree, Easy pass for me as well.
Will wait for Jaws.
Looks like Lonnie is lead programmer on this one.
Quoted from Charliew65:Did they say who was coding the game?
Quoted from pinmister:Avengers is one of his best games made(once Hulk gets dialed in).
avengers is not one of the best anythings by anyone.
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