I can’t believe how many people are only just now watching these movies for the first time. Pretty cool, yet weird that’s it’s because of a pinball machine mainly. Lol

Gameroom Guys site has said for the past 3 weeks lead time 45 days for 007 prem and 30 days for a pro.

I hadn’t really had any interest in rewatching these and I probably haven’t seen them since the 70’s/80’s but with nothing else to do until they start shipping I just watched the first 3 and they are better than I remembered

I wouldn't blame GG for this with Batman 66. Lyman always took forever on code. The best at his craft, but incredibly slow. May he rest in peace.

This was apparent in the 80’s. But what do you want to do cancel it?

Goldeneye came out when I was in high school and after seeing it I immediately watched them all. I’ve been watching them in order every few years ever since. Of all the crazy ways to discover classic Bond, I never would have guessed pinball.

Then George shouldn't have been out front making promises for Lyman. He was busking for sales by making promises he, as a very experienced pinball designer with decades of experience, had a pretty good idea wouldn't work out that fast. And I'm ok with relatively slow, steady code rollout, but Batman'66 was literally barely more than some blinky lights and a few show clips for more than half a YEAR. The WORST code rollout, by far.

Once people get over their insecurities, the Bond movies are quite witty and certainly good for a laugh. They were fantastic when they were made and are still good to watch today. That is what makes them classics.

What amuses me is that people complain about the consent issues in Bond movies, but the same people are ok with all the killing and murder scenes in lots of new movies as they are all polite and treat people with respect just before killing them. I find this bizarre. It is like we are detuning people to murder. Anyway, back to pinball.

Bring on some 007 gameplay!

"Getting over insecurities." Dude, we're talking about a scene that most people agree seems like a rape - including a director of a Bond movie.

I like these films. I like them so much that I'm ordering an LE. If you're willing to plunk that much money down, you clearly like the films.

But, it's also true when you're in a very male-dominated space like pinball - it's super creepy to hear even noting something was not consensual sex is when you should "get over your insecurities." It's super cringe. And frankly, troubling. And it's the kind of behavior that pushes many women away from this amazing hobby.

All the bonds are on Amazon. Last night was Dr.No and tonight will be from Russia with love. It's been at least 15 years since I watched Dr. No and it's still great.

Great points here. Society evolves...let us not punish for yesterday based on the rules of today.

And I've just started to to back and watch these films and yes its due to the pin....... I hadn't seen any before Pierce.

I think limited time for 60th anniversary. Usually a rental.

Definitely get them in!

People are tired of the virtue signaling. This is a pinball forum.

You could let the comments push you away from the hobby but that would be letting the actions of a few control you. I just watched some of the scenes and they are shocking but in the end it's just a movie and people in a hype club thread don't want to be reminded of the few flaws that the movies had.

Also super cringe?…the phrase “super cringe”.

I saw a lot of them on TV when I was a kid, but I remember very little about them.

Speaking of, I watched Diamonds are Forever last night... Wow what a cheesy, nonsensical, absurd, movie full of bad acting and dumb scenes......I loved it! It was easily one of the most fun times I've had watching a Bond movie so far. It might be my favorite one so far. Nah...its probably still Goldfinger but its close. Diamonds are Forever is great!

Blame Stern. If we had machines delivered and more video we could talk pinball more!

Next up is "super duper cringe".

Is there any good gameplay video?

Have to wait until 10/18 for the Jack Danger stream. I assume the whole gang will be on it to introduce the game.

I know this is a thread about movies but I had to give credit where it is due... you're right, it's all 3. The Jameson tops the other 2 but it wouldn't last if it wasn't for the great family bond and this damn hobby! Hope everyone get to enjoy some or all of this too. Cheers!

I guess we'd have to agree: Ironically, my brother-in-law lives off a canal in Brick (which was decimated by Sandy) and my daughter lives in Naples FL which just had Ian "visit". This sh*t is insane. Stay "dry" - in the right circumstances that is.

I’m sure the bands Iron Maiden, Metallica, Aerosmith have committed some super duper cringe behaviors in their past. Let’s go into those threads and point them out. Just to let everyone know, hey I like this machine, but let’s go through it with a microscope and see if anyone has made a mistake. Heck let’s not stop there let’s go through everyone who has played in the bands or any actor in the movie themed machines have committed a crime or behaved poorly and point it out….
Ugh like a stated previously. We all saw this in the 80’s Yeah probably not the best choice. But I don’t need to announce it..: it’s apparent!!

I don't think anyone is seriously complaining? They're just acknowledging it exists.

But that is apparently offensive to the people who are offended at the notion of someone else possibly being offended

community-offense-taken.gif

Let's not forget, the other side of this is true too. The Bond films were very progressive in their day in many ways.

You had the sexual politics. We gloss over this today, but having women able to wear bikinis and sex openly represented was fairly shocking at the time. I'm of the opinion you cannot have women's liberation without sexual liberation - so this is something I appreciate.

You had women represented as professionals in a male dominated workplace. Again, we gloss over it today but it was very unusual at the time where women were generally relegated to being secretaries and housewives. You also had Pussy Galore and Rosa Klebb who are clearly queer coded in major films. I'm not saying it was perfect representation, but it was a bold choice for the time and opened the door to better things.

I think you can't have it both ways, personally. If we're celebrating 60 years of Bond, and we should, you can note the good and the bad.

The reason I love watching all the Bond films in order is you get to see 60 years of world history in front of you. The geopolitics. The technology. The ways they treat women. Not all of it is good, but all of it is interesting.

Nope. Now back to our regular scheduled program. This is Gary's fault!

Klebb I agree. I'm interested in your thoughts on Pussy Galore (I can sorta see it?), but I know how well that would conversation would be received here...

Hell, people are complaining about people posting their thoughts after seeing these movies for the first-time/first-time--in-a-long-time. It's not like we have anything else to talk about for another week...

I'm sorry, but you're dumb dude. Brianna very clearly stated that she loved the old Bond films, so obviously she doesn't want to "cancel" them. It's like you guys are making up things to be mad at, in order to confirm your worldview.

While waiting for Stern Bond to ship, a lot of us are watching or re-watching the old movies, and giving our takes. The issue of consent is certainly a problematic element in most the Connery Bond movies, and it's okay for people to point that out. I definitely felt uncomfortable watching some of the scenes with my 10-year-old daughter in the room. What saves them, to a certain extent, is that after each of the "problematic" scenes, the women always seem very enamored of James, and quite "into" him. So I think that reduces the cringe-factor quite a bit.

But other than a few brief scenes, the Connery Bond movies still hold up pretty damn well, and are a lot of fun.

Well said.

I agree with your comment on the history element to watching these movies too. One thing that I really enjoyed while watching "From Russia With Love" was all the location scenes of 1960s Istanbul. It was great to see the what the people and streets of the city looked like back then, and getting to see it all in the full-HD of the recent releases is a nice treat. Makes them feel more "real" than if all we had was blurry SD copies of the films.

Definitely, a time capsule element to the movies, for sure.

Nice personal attack surely shows your maturity and intelligence level

Graphic depictions of:

*Deviant sex and old social norms = intolerable

*Violence and murder = totally fine

?

Oh boy, it's a whole discussion. But, basically she's explicitly a "violet-eyed lesbian" in the Ian Fleming novel and Bond "cures" her. They hint to it in Goldfinger with "You can forget the charm, I'm immune" but they wouldn't go any further.

Like I said, certainly not a choice we would make today - but progressive for the time. And it opened the door for better things.

Yeah reading the wiki on her, it's intentional in the novel but very subtle in the movie. Which adds a lot more complexity to the sexual dynamics of Bond forcing himself onto a presumably gay woman, and then her relenting, and being "into it" afterwords. That older mentality that a lesbian just needs one good encounter with a man... A lot to unpack there.

I remember when folks hopped on pinside to talk about pinball.

Then the SJWs found a new pool to pee in.

I'm trying to find a video of it, but in The Onion Movie there is a memorable sketch of couples getting together for a game night. Someone assumes it will be a murder-mystery party, but then the host reveals it's a rape-investigation-mystery game. One person gets very uncomfortable while everyone else gets excited to play. Someone confused at their apprehension says something tongue in cheek along the lines of "well you have no issue playing the pretend murder game, so what's wrong with pretending a lesser crime where no one dies?"

So does Pepperidge Farm... LOL

See what happens when you try and share an opinion,agree to disagree if thats your choice no need get personal .This is trivial.Look back on most movies Elvis movies for instance.It was a different time and it shows.Coming soon James Bond.

In TBL, Maud tries to get pregnant from the Dude without his consent. That’s super cringe.

I have an Iron Maiden story, but I have no interest in opening that can of worms

Sharing an opinion is different than cancel culture. One challenges another’s belief system while the other wants to rewrite history.

I think you are being too kind. Contemporaries knew it was wrong at the time for the same reason we know it is wrong now, and the people making these films were aware of that criticism, and they did it anyways. Women were in real non-objectified roles doing non-secretary things long before Bond. 20s, 30s old Hollywood is full of leading women that make Bond's treatment of women seem of Neanderthal origins.

This thread...

giphy (8).gif

But no one is talking about "canceling" anything?

So do I and I love it! This entire thing went off the rails. My point was all through history people have made mistakes.

Only a matter of time...

1A9420CB-FEBD-4F99-A558-B75A40C87332 (resized).jpeg

Boy, you're stepping in it now, implying a fat girl can't ride a bike