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Board Repair - Show your examples of work - good and bad

By shimoda

10 years ago


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    #1 10 years ago

    Perhaps someone who does professional type board repair would be willing to start a how-to thread here with examples of professional work.

    I'm not asking anyone who makes a living off this to risk losing business as I imagine most would rather send in a board if they aren't comfortable with doing this. I know a local repair guy who sends his boards to CoinOp Cauldron, doesn't do any of that work himself.

    I am just interested in seeing how many people do these repairs. I know there are already examples of stitch repair and whatnot out there, but what constitutes an acceptable jumper or trace repair? I do all my own board work and would like to see other's examples of board work - good, bad, and ugly. This is a request prompted by this thread: http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/circuit-board-advice#post-1461000

    #2 10 years ago

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    #3 10 years ago

    I can post the pictures directly to this post a little later. Here is a blog post where I replace a PIA chip on a system11 mpu.

    http://www.dkpinball.com/DKWP/?p=47

    I like to think this is an example of good board work.

    #4 10 years ago

    Not exactly what you asked for, but here's a great resource for best practices in board repair. Great reading for anyone who repairs boards or wants to elevate their board repair skills (or can't get to sleep).

    The standard for board repair is the IPC (Institute for Printed Circuits). Unfortunately their standards documents cost several thousand dollars. Circuit Medic, one of the premier boards repair shops (non-pinball), has some great info on best practices based on the IPC standards.

    http://www.circuitmedic.com/guides/guides.shtml

    There's also a PDF version of this guide on my website.

    http://pinballrehab.com/1-articles/solid-state-repair/board-rework-test/242-board-rework-standards

    I won't copy all of the photos to the forum, but here's a couple of articles on my site with board repair tips.

    http://pinballrehab.com/1-articles/solid-state-repair/board-rework-test/246-pad-and-trace-repair

    http://pinballrehab.com/1-articles/solid-state-repair/board-rework-test/230-repairing-plated-through-holes

    #5 10 years ago

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    #6 10 years ago

    Kris @ firebird pinball does excellent work. Hope he can chime in.

    #7 10 years ago
    Quoted from Hellfire:

    Well here are a few of my boards Ive done, granted not 100% direct replacements but i like to upgrade the boards if possible using new regulators etc eliminate alot of heat etc.

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    This last one, what did you replace the 5V regulator with here?

    #8 10 years ago
    Quoted from Ronnie1114:

    Kris @ firebird pinball does excellent work. Hope he can chime in.

    Yes, Kris is very good at what he does. Has helped me out a few times with repairs in general and some board issues. He is so frantically fast when he works sometimes I wonder if he is on crack.

    #9 10 years ago

    Terryb is correct. I have worked for over 30 years in the electronics industry. The last 15 in professional audio products. The bible for soldering is the IPC. Here is a sample document that gives you and idea of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable for through hole components
    http://www.ipctraining.org/demos/pdf/drm-pth-e.pdf

    #10 10 years ago
    Quoted from shimoda:

    This last one, what did you replace the 5V regulator with here?

    An 5V HRD step down converter.

    #11 10 years ago
    Quoted from Hellfire:

    An 5V HRD step down converter.

    Like this: ebay.com link: DC DC HRD 12V 24V 36V Step Down to DC 5V 3A Car Power Converter Regulator Module

    Anything in particular to do to set it properly? Curious as to how you came about using that.

    #12 10 years ago

    Nice document wayout440. Thanks for posting that.

    #13 10 years ago
    Quoted from terryb:

    Nice document wayout440. Thanks for posting that.

    Your welcome.

    Good thread idea, Shimoda.

    #14 10 years ago
    Quoted from shimoda:

    Anything in particular to do to set it properly? Curious as to how you came about using that.

    The 2.2 ohm resistor needs to be removed, but basicly wanted to do an upgrade the lm323 still generates enough heat, and the bulky heatsink added alot of weight to the board so when moving the machine around the board flexes board flex creats broken solders the more modern step down converts also provide alot less strain on the old power supply and transformer also the voltage is more stable holds at 5.0v constant. handles 3A RMS and up to 5A surge a better rating than the lm323. looks a bit funny but an upgrade for about the same price.
    no reason not to integrate new better technologies to the old boards when possible.
    If you look at the williams sound board them are the new converters i use now

    #15 10 years ago

    Yes, for just over $2 I might have to try this. I have also been wondering about upgrades to the old voltage regulators that might offer better performance.

    #16 10 years ago
    Quoted from wayout440:

    Terryb is correct. I have worked for over 30 years in the electronics industry. The last 15 in professional audio products. The bible for soldering is the IPC. Here is a sample document that gives you and idea of what is acceptable and what is not acceptable for through hole components
    http://www.ipctraining.org/demos/pdf/drm-pth-e.pdf

    Great document, but why, oh why, did they use that font. I HATE THAT FONT /ocd

    #17 10 years ago

    Not much to see, but I recently replaced every scanbe socketed IC chip on this Williams System 3 board.
    Then replaced all the Capacitors on the power board along with most of the male pins on the outer edge and the 5 volt regulator.
    Thanks to the Hako 808 I got on the group buy here on the boards, it was all relatively painless.

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    #18 10 years ago

    "bang it with the 808" makes repair work a breeze!

    #19 10 years ago

    Well. I guess this is a better option than mangling the through holes. I can fix this...

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    #20 10 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:

    Well. I guess this is a better option than mangling the through holes. I can fix this...

    Good Lord. Lock the backbox.

    #21 10 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:

    Well. I guess this is a better option than mangling the through holes. I can fix this...

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    Wow thats ugly. And why would you do that its twice the work. And I like the ic socket with the extra legs cut off.

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