(Topic ID: 235525)

BM66 vs TWD vs TSPP

By Damien

5 years ago


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“What game is a keeper?”

  • BM66 50 votes
    40%
  • TWD 42 votes
    34%
  • TSPP 33 votes
    26%

(125 votes)

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#1 5 years ago

Here's the deal... Currently I have a TWD and TSPP, but I'm intrigued by BM66.

I'm considering selling one to replace with BM66.

So I figured I'd get some opinions...

If you could only keep 2 of these games, what would it be and why?

Make sure to vote as well

#3 5 years ago
Quoted from pinballaddicted:

You are building yourself a very, very nice collection of games. Best of the 90s BWs and a good mix of Sterns. My suggestion would be to find a BM66 somewhere and play it as much as you can to see if you like it. The beauty of BM66 is that there are so many different ways to play the game. If I had to pick from BM66, TSPP and TWD to off load it would be TWD. TWD premium is a much better game IMHO so the pro can go and get a premium or LE later on if you can. Getting a TWD Premium or LE in Australia is almost impossible, they are snapped up straight away. I am surprised Stern have not made a vault edition.
I notice you have MM and MMr. If it was me and I liked BM66, I would off load one of those and get BM66.

I actually have a buyer for the MMR, so MM will be the one staying. I hate TWD as much as I like it. It's an absolute drain show (at least mine is) but I'm determined to keep it until I reach LMS! I like the way the left ramp shoots on the Pro. I do need to put some more time into a Premium to see how it compares. I have a friend with one, but it's set up waaaaay too steep, so I need one that is set right to fairly compare.

It might end up being TSPP for the mere reason that the final wizard mode is unattainable by 99.9% of people. Some say they've done it, there's even a video right as someone is starting it, but no one has a video of them playing through all the modes to get there, and I'm pretty sure it's because no one has done it.

Tons of videos of Valinor... None of SDMEWM... Seems suspicious

That's just my personal feeling on pinball games... I enjoy shooting for the wizard mode more than anything, so I need something that is tough, but not impossible. I've been 1 shots away from Valinor, 8 walker kills away from LMS, and to me, that is the excitement of pinball

#9 5 years ago

Looks like voting shows BM66 pulling ahead, and TSPP and TWD from much tied.

Letting go of TWD and TSPP would be a tough decision for me. They're both games that I get frustrated with, but thoroughly enjoy when I have one of those big games.

The other games in my line up aren't like that to me. I enjoy playing them regardless of how the game is progressing.

I find TSPP sometimes suffers from having too much going on, and TWD suffers from just being plain cruel with drains. My games often gets the SDTM from the pop bumpers and prison magnet. I've had games where I'm getting pretty close to LMS, and I lose all my progress to a shitty drain from the pop bumpers that is totally out of my control (and yes, I nudge like crazy!).

With BM66 I remember playing it when it first came out and feeling like for the price, it felt cheap. I played one the other day, and the code was definitely enticing, but when you compare it to a game like TSPP, you really have to question how they're charging this much!

Anyhow... Decisions, decisions...

#10 5 years ago
Quoted from Toasterdog:

Don’t buy TWD premium. It’s easier, but not like a totally different game.

I've wondered about this since I don't have much time on the Premises, but have seen videos of people playing, and it appears you can save the ball after it drains with the lockdown button?!?!

If so, I'd probably already have reached LMS!

The Pro is brutal. It's fast, and with that We'll Walker magnet, that shot alone becomes more dangerous.

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from libtech:

TWD is my fave of the three, there are better games out there than BM66, noticed you have Maiden on your want list - way more fun IMO, and cheaper (for the pro anyway). Id move TSPP and buy one of those.

Definitely will get one, but I like to wait a bit so they can work out any kinks. Like getting a BM66 now versus a couple years ago.

#22 5 years ago
Quoted from brett:

Sell TWD and TSPP. Buy TWD Prem/LE and BM66.
Both are incredible themed games, along with being two of the best coded pins that you could own.
Both machines are extremely fun and are totally different, I can’t see either one of these leaving my collection.

I need more time on a TWD Prem. I found the left ramp annoying on the one I had a chance to play, but again, he had it levelled too steep.

I think I'm going to go put some more time in on BM66 before I decide to let go of TSPP or TWD.

But I think if I had to let go of one of them right now, it would be TSPP.

#25 5 years ago
Quoted from jawjaw:

I sure had a lot more fun playing a TWD premium than the pro. Still, I don't get the hype on that game. I can see a fun game in there somewhere but it's wrapped in an ugly package. I would much rather have TSPP. Packed playfield with cool upper pf and great theme. I can understand the criticism of code being so deep it's hard to enjoy as a casual player. If you think you need more time on TWD and can let TSPP go then do it. BM66 is a great game and I don't think it's a bad idea to replace one good game with another. If you end up missing TSPP, it's not too hard to find again.

I played TSPP for an hour straight last night. Finished Alien Invasion, started up all the other mini-wizard modes, and collected 4 super jackpots.

my main criticism on this game is that in order to achieve the final wizard mode you must complete all of the other modes and that is virtually impossible. I think if they made those mini wizard modes either slightly more attainable or easier to return to like multi balls in Lord of the Rings then this could have been one of the all-time greats for me.

#31 5 years ago
Quoted from Maken:

Finishing the 4 mini wizard modes is actually the easy part. 5 SJP and AI are the hard parts.
Daredevil Mania is almost impossible to fail. Secret Stash isn't very tough. Stack a multiball with the other two and they are beatable as well on the first try.
Plus, you can start them a second time if you don't complete them. I disagree that it's hard to re-start mini wizard modes... with all of the EBs available in TSPP with stock settings, it's really not. Perhaps you aren't getting enough EBs.
It's one of the hardest wizard modes of all time, typically only achieved by the top players in the world. You aren't that far off, and yet you want to give up after only a few months. Practice more and use better strategies instead of giving up.
Don't blame the game, it has some of the best code of all time from a legendary coder. He made deep code for great players like himself... if you aren't up to the challenge, that's on you.

TSPP is a great game, but I find the code just doesn't jive with me. You like it? Great! Enjoy it!

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