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POLL: BM66 vs Dialed In- Which machine offers more value for $9,000 ?

By kpg

7 years ago


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“Which Machine "Feels" closer to a $9K MSRP?”

  • Batman '66 by Stern 66 votes
    16%
  • Dialed In by JJP 341 votes
    84%

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#15 7 years ago

I assume you're using a B66 Premium but doesn't that game have a cheaper MSRP at $8600. Sterns also enjoy a greater reduction when you buy them from some distributors. I've heard some say final price of $7800. Compare that to DI's $9k plus $500 shipping

The B66LE might be a closer comparison price wise. I don't think they enjoy as much of a distributor discount or even one at all.

#18 7 years ago
Quoted from PanzerFreak:

Dialed In by a mile. Far more features, tech, better quality, better LCD animations and I'm sure code support.

With Lyman doing code I'm interested to see what he comes up with. Does he work on animations as well or is there another person for that?

#27 7 years ago
Quoted from Aurich:

For me the biggest ding against Batman is the big toy is a reuse. It's like if Dialed In had an upper playfield with a spinning power company building or something.
I don't actually understand why Stern went that route. New art, new spinning toy, new code from Lyman, expensive price tag, reused toy and half a playfield from a game that no one was clambering for a remake of.\
If it was just a clever VE then okay, but Lyman doing new code wipes that notion out. So why not finish the job and make a totally new game?
Dialed In is at least totally original from top to bottom. I'm not buying either, no value for that cash in my book in either game at that price, but if they dropped down Dialed In is the one I'd be interested in because it's new and different.

Do you think it could have been because Gomez insisted to head the project? He stated he's a big fan of the show but also said he doesn't have a lot of time to devote to game design. Maybe this was a quick and easy way for him to be a part of the design of a theme he loves.

While it is disappointing it's mostly a reused layout, I could see how the adjustments, new theme and code could make a better game. We've seen rethemes be better than the original before (Iron Man) but it better not be a carbon copy of modes and code (Spider-Man VE).

#35 7 years ago
Quoted from Flato:

GB at least had some innovative features mag slings rock.

I would agree there. Like Gomez says, what matters is under the glass.

#52 7 years ago
Quoted from Yipykya:

Yeah, swapping and storing doesn't sound appealing but doing it in front of guests and letting them participate in the switcharoo has a certain "Show Off Cool Factor" to it though.

I'm thinking about making some cool boxes for my playfields like video game boxes. Maybe model it after the Atari 2600 game.

It would be the equivalent of people having shelves of video games. Maybe Heighway should start selling accessories like this.

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#69 7 years ago
Quoted from kpg:

Build quality is actually one of the single most important things consumers look for in a manufactured product before making a purchase- for literally every product, in every segment.
But somehow pinball machines don't matter?
You should see my piece of shit playfield on my GBLE now. Trust me, I spent $8K on it from Stern, and build quality *does* matter to me.. especially when they have raised prices since dropping that doosey on the pinball market.
Here's the thing.. We enjoy playing GB more then Hobbit lately, because it's a fun game. But reality is, GB feels like it was built in China by some $3/hr laborers and Hobbit feels like a quality American made product. I just wish JJP would have made GB. Both were about the same price, but Hobbit actually feels and looks like a higher quality machine and that does matter to me.

Did you hear that sound? That was the mic being dropped.

#91 7 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

Who would buy a pinball machine just because its built like a tank and looks gorgeous as the main reason? Nobody i hope
Theme
Software
Artwork
Price

This is just comparing Batman, Alien, Dialed In and I'll throw Domino's in there since it's shipping at the same time.

Theme - Alien
This will vary depending on the person but Alien is an awesome theme to me.

Software - Dialed In
This might be a tie with B66 but Sterns have always taken awhile to get the code done.

Artwork - Batman
It may be just a collage of images but I think it works well and makes an impression while the other two are kind of mediocre.

Price - Domino's
It's lower.

These are the things I can judge from my computer. Gameplay can't be judged till I see these in person though the response of people who played Dialed In has left an impression.

#116 7 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

iconic theme versus no theme

I think I need to play Dialed In before making that claim. If we looked at every original theme in pictures before we played it and compared it to some licensed theme we would say the same thing.

The used machines that command the highest dollar today are original themes not licensed.

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