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Blade Runner 2049

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7 years ago


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#13 7 years ago

Gosh I hope the new Blade Runner is as good as Prometheus was.

#18 7 years ago

Exactly! Ridley Scott racked up max points with Alien, Blade Runner, and Gladiator. But it has been a slide downhill with Prometheus and The Martian being recent efforts that were just horrible. I like to pretend it's not him, it's Hollywood pulling the strings now and telling him what to do. I don't think they give any director complete control to do whatever they want any more. Here's to hoping Alien: Covenant will bring it back.

#26 7 years ago
Quoted from John1210:

I think you're seeing something that's not there.

Check it out, from
http://wiki.tarantino.info/index.php/Kill_Bill_References_Guide/_American_and_Euro_mainstream_and_exploitation

Blade Runner (1982) Directed by Ridley Scott

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Daryl Hannah improvised the scene where Elle Driver's eye gets removed by The Bride and she goes "nuts". She did this because she thought it would make Quentin Tarantino laugh. He did and that scene entered the final film. She sustained injures from breaking so many things in the bathroom. This scene is very close to Pris' death, a character played by Daryl Hannah in Blade Runner.

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#61 6 years ago
Quoted from iceman44:

The movie BLOWS
Can't make a pin off this one. Nothing to it

Too bad, but this is not unexpected. Early reviews were obvious shills.

--edit-- Glad to hear some did like it. Maybe there is hope. I'll sit on this one for a while. It's hard to get me out to a theater these days, been disappointed too many times.

#85 6 years ago

I'll wait this one out and watch it on the home theater when it rolls around to Netflix. I have done this for every 2017 movie so far and I haven't seen anything yet that makes me wish I had gone to the theater and seen it. Most of them have been outright terrible.

#156 6 years ago
Quoted from NicoVolta:

I like slow, cerebral, contemplative films. Huge fan of the original. I also like fast shiny action thrillers.
I didn't like 2049... sorry. In fact I didn't even finish it. Took a bathroom break at 2:10 and decided to remain in the lobby and browse Facebook instead. Not to make a statement or whatever, just because it was really that boring. Wasn't angry, wasn't upset... just plain bored.
Visually, the film is elegant and the soundtrack reminiscent of the groundbreaking original. But 2049 is not groundbreaking. It won't be discussed in film school over the following decades like 2001, Blade Runner, Koyaanisqatsi, etc, because it does not belong among them. Rather, once the luster wears off, we will collectively realize several things at once:
1) Just because 2049 was the kind of slow, cerebral(-ish, but not very) sci-fi film that hasn't been made in a while doesn't mean it deserves to be the flag-bearer for all others of this type. Yes, we need more. No, not like this one.
2) The scriptwriting is weak. We are supposed to buy into the idea that replicant babies have some sort of enormous gravity that will supposedly "end everything"... period. That's it. It assumes a ridiculous amount of interest from a sophisticated audience without further exposition... which we never get... and are thus rarely invested in the outcome unless we are...
3) ...fanboys of the original. Fanboys who also happen to prefer the theatrical release where Rachel lives beyond her four-year lifespan with the "fake happy ending" because 2049 explores "what is love?" rather than "what is human?"... and to a far weaker extent.
4) Numerous opportunities for engaging our curiosity (the buried box, the sock, whatever, who cares), character building, and pushing our boundaries are either wasted on extended moments of silence which (albeit beautiful) do little for the narrative OR conversely throws opportunity for nuance under the bus of spectacle (uterus stabbing, flying rocks, gratuitous comic-book moments and dialogue). Pseudo-profundity at its best.
5) The irony of defensive reviewers telling us "you must like Thor 2 and have no attention span if you hated 2049" haven't noticed that, ironically, their own frame of reference has been hijacked by visual stimulation. A sophisticated, thought-provoking plot isn't here. Half a movie at best.
6) 2049 apes everything good from the original (a bit too closely) and adds almost nothing substantial to it. Nothing I cared about for the last 30 years, anyway.
7) At times it's really kind of "Bro Runner" with K and Deckard being boys, fightin' with Elvis, drankin' the whiskeys, doin' the sexbot/hot girl thing. Sexism seems so 80's here... I guess some things never change in post-apocalyptic-land?
2049 is stuck in the uncanny valley between art flick, cerebral thriller, and action film... and doesn't accomplish any at the fullest potential. Nor does it bother explaining itself... which of course we will be told is intentional because "it's supposed to be mysterious and thought-provoking for intelligent people like me!"
Fine... but I'm calling bulls**t. I shouldn't have to do the work of the director to fill in the blanks of a weak script... that's fanboy work. It's like firing a shotgun stuffed with pretty confetti and scraps of an incomplete story into the screen, crossing your fingers, and hoping the resulting mess is just so fascinating and complicated and "stuff" that it'll be material for film snobs for decades! BTW, sure hope we financially break even!
Just you watch. We've talked about Blade Runner for decades, and will continue to. What are people talking about after 2049? Generally only one thing, "stupid people don't like this masterpiece". Well then... time will tell what incredible spirited discussions and inspired artwork will come of it! I can't wait! The topics! The possibilities!
Of course, far more likely, we'll get something like: "oh yeah that was one of those slick post-2000 movie reboots they did a bunch of those back then... Gosling was in it and Harrison Ford and that hot VR chick and it got all weird and was awesome... can't remember much but need to see it again!"
Hmmm. Well, I guess the standard for "masterpiece" is... a little bit different today. A trifle.
But hey, what do I know? I liked the sci-fi flick Passengers and Tomato rated it 30%. Was bored with The Force Awakens and Tomato rated it 93%.
Let's end on a positive alternative: The Mill and the Cross. It's got Rutger Hauer in it! I'll just imagine a Replicant went back in time to impersonate Bruegel. Maybe that's where I'm stuck anyway. *shrug* carry on, nothing to see here, just one person's opinion...

Everyone is going to have different opinions, nothing wrong with that at all. For myself I didn't like Passengers or Force Awakens. But if you like Ruger Hauer I've got four words for you: Hobo with a Shotgun!

#182 6 years ago

I forget the details, but there was some weird thing that happened with the copyright for Philip Dick, and quite a bit of his stuff is in the public domain. You can download the books and stories for free from Project Gutenberg, www.gutenberg.org. Its all great stuff.

#183 6 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

My science you're old!
I didn't see it until it came out on VHS.

Well, OK that was 1982, I guess those of us who saw it in the theaters when it first came out are "old". Same for Star Wars (77) or Jaws (75)

By the way, way back then in '82, we drug our butts to the theaters to see not only Blade Runner but also TRON The Thing ET Fast Times at Ridgemont High Poltergeist First Blood Conan the Barbarian Star Trek II Wrath of Khan Airplane II Death Wish II to name a few. NOT BAD!!

#213 6 years ago
Quoted from rotordave:

Valerian:
Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $40,479,370 18.0%
+ Foreign: $184,684,740 82.0%
= Worldwide: $225,164,110
Add on the DVD sales etc, and it's not quite the bomb everyone was saying.
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There are still lots of millions to go, it cost $180M to make, one estimated rule of thumb is that the gross needs to at least double the cost to break even:

"Valerian” has to make $400 million worldwide to help EuropaCorp climb into the black and justify a sequel, according to several financial analysts, including Pavel Govciyan, an analyst at Natixis.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/europacorp-stock-value-drops-valerian-poor-opening-weekend-1202504169/

#229 6 years ago
Quoted from nosro:

I was watching the credits for this and was surprised that it was Sean Young. Later googling revealed that it was indeed Sean Young with her own younger face CGI'd onto her.

Did they CGI the crazy out of her too?

#238 6 years ago
Quoted from Azmodeus:

If i were a replicant would I even know it. Would I feel any different than I do now?
These things and crushing the creators head in my hands.
All wrapped up in a movie.

Don't worry, you are not a replicant. You're fine.

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#255 6 years ago
Quoted from VacFink:

My guess is that the backers of the project see it as a break even or a loss. In Hollywood terms its a loss because they all feel like they should have invested in another Blart Mallcop movie and racked in the stupid cash. The only hope IMO for a future installment will be a pile of oscars and some private market frenzy, both of which are probably a toss up.
Its a real problem that hollywood and the era of superhero blockbusters have given them an expectation that the only movie worth spending money on, is one that will produce swimming pools of cash. That doesn't bode well for a movie that can proffit but not at that level.

You gotta have the box office (or, box office + other revenue such as disc/streaming) at least double the production cost before you can say it made a profit.

#262 6 years ago
Quoted from vid1900:

$224 Million box office this morning.
"Tyler Perry's Boo 2! A Madea Halloween" brings up the rear with $36 Million.

BR still has a long way to go. Hopefully it has staying power.

Boo 2 has a production budget of 25 million, with 35 million in worldwide so far. That's not looking good. That probably will lose money.

Happy Death Day has a production budget of 5 million, has pulled in 68 million so far. THAT'S how you make money! Someone is raking in millions on that one.

Jackie Chan's movie budget was 35 million, it has pulled in 118 million. That one is looking pretty good, should make some money.

Here's how to tank one: Suburbicon. Millions will be lost on that one.

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