Of course quality is king, but at $2500 it should be pretty near pristine. From what I hear it is almost impossible to find one with no cannon wear so if you found one maybe it is worth that much, but I'm not sure. I don't want to price police. If you're looking at it purely as an investment my personal opinion is you should pass. Having owned it for a while I think it is a fun game, but it will never reach elite status. As such it will never command an elite price. That's my opinion anyway. The one thing it has going for it investment wise is that there don't seem to be too many floating around, but that only goes so far. If you really like the game and you're comfortable with the price then go for it. If you're looking to move it any time soon that'd be a pretty clear pass for me.

http://www.pinpedia.com/machine/Black-Rose/statistics

Think it is a little pricey for the condition.

If it has no cannon wear make sure to talk to Cliffy =-) he made one.

That is a lot for that title also. I would only consider it if it is your grail or pristine HUO.

Just realized u probably meant bead on, not beat on. I guess i dont know condition

One just sold recently for $1500. I think it was in decent shape.

I think viewing pins as an investment will only lead to future disappointment. Buy what looks fun and not what you think might increase in value. That being said, to answer you question, a BR over $2000 would not be a worthy pin to pick up investment wise.

+1 If you're looking for something to invest in, something that's mechanical, takes up a lot of space, wears out and breaks down, that only a tiny group of people are interested in acquiring is probably not a good investment.

I have been working on a BR. I just got a new cannon assembly. I am still looking for the cannon decals - everybody seems to be out of them right now.

Bay Area Amusements lookS to have them in stock.

http://bayareaamusements.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Store_Code=BAA&Screen=PROD&Product_Code=DC-31-1656-SP-SET

Totally agree on the poor investment angle. Buy games to play and enjoy them.

God, all you have to do is look at two things to discount Pinpedia as absurd:

STTNG average sale price "Average Prices: USD $1,600 to $2,900" Really? A 1500 variance constitutes an AVERAGE?

And...

LETHAL WEAPON 3 IS RATED HIGHER THAN LORD OF THE RINGS...

If that doesn't scream absurdity, I don't know what does!

Never play with pins as an investment. If you want to try it that is not going to bring you much money on that one at that price.

Moving to buying/selling advice

I wouldn't pay $2k for a BR even if it was in pristine condition.

If it has no cannon wear make sure to talk to Cliffy =-) he made a protector.

Yep! Or actually if it does have wear you'll need one

BR_cannon-inst1.JPG

Investing in Pinball for a mediocore game for $2500. I think you need to find better things to do with that money. I would doubt you could ever get that back out of it.

I hate the word/concept of investment with this hobby/passion.