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Black Rose Club: owners and fans welcome

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9 years ago


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#1312 3 years ago

Joining the Black Rose club soon! Hope to have my pin in about 2 weeks. I really like the theme and layout with all the shots and 3rd flipper. I’ve only played this game a couple times, and I didn’t even know the Davy Jones ramp raises to allow balls to lock under it! Really looking forward to this game. I’ve seen some reviews compare it to a Sys 11, which is hard to believe. I like many Sys 11 pins, but this game looks like it’s got decent rules, several video modes, awesome mechs with a cannon to sink ships! The ramps are awesome too. I have a Stern potc, can’t wait to put this one across from it!

2 weeks later
#1328 3 years ago
Quoted from gunstarhero:

Arr, my Black Rose has set sail under a new captain and I am out of the club. May the wind always be at your back ya scurvy ridden scalawags!

Godspeed, Gunstarhero! One captain retires, another begins anew...my first Black Rose arrives today (Monday) via STI. Can’t wait to set sail!

#1330 3 years ago
Quoted from MattElder:

Nice, congrats! My Black Rose is on the way as well. So many of these changing hands lately. In my 16 years in the hobby I have never seen so many up for sale or trade in such a short span of time.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to finally getting one! I searched forever for a non-faded one, and found a newly- redecaled one!

Congrats to you too! New cab decals are awesome. Mine is original, but not faded from what I could see. No cracked plastics and no pf wear, so that’s nice. I just hope the canon is fairly level, I hear it’s quite the headache to level it. At least it’s not an important part of the game.
Post a pic or two of yours when it arrives. Mine is coming in an hour. I should have her set up later tonight!

#1331 3 years ago

My BR arrived today on a pallet. The game overall is fantastic. Very clean, original cab and the playfield has almost no wear at all. No wear around the coin door slots either, and no evidence of ever being routed. Plays great, I got lucky and my cannon fires straight up the pf and sinking ships is great. The Cannon assembly appears fairly level. It’s not perfect, and an occasional ball hop or airball do happen. But it’s almost even with the pf. Added a color DMD and it came with interactive pinstadiums to brighten it up. This game is very well-designed, imho. Great ramps and shots.

Only bummer was game was shipped on its back, resting on a pallet with only some plastic wrap under it. So the 2 rails on the back were pretty crushed. The two top (when the game is upright) corners also got smushed a bit. Sad to see that with such a beauty. I removed the rails and will replace those, so no major loss there. I did some light repairs to the corners and the head covers those anyway. Thankfully the game survived and plays great. Hoping it finds a place in our collection long term!

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#1355 3 years ago
Quoted from MattElder:

Finally getting around to posting a pic as you requested. I picked up my BR from the local NAVL sub the other afternoon. Thankfully it arrived safely!
The cabinet had been re-decaled as described in the FS ad, and is beautiful, but not much else rang true. It was supposedly shopped out, but this thing has layers of crud everywhere on it. It hasn’t even seen a quick wipe down in many years. Many plastics broken, some missing parts, the playfield is broken between the ball trough and shooter lane, some homemade parts, several VERY raised and worn inserts, etc. Looking back at the ad it is comical how misleading it was. Oh well, I bought it mostly because of the nice cabinet, so I guess I can’t be too upset at the deception. The pics were fuzzy and I should have asked for better ones (and more).
Anyway, I have a boatload of parts coming for it now, and it’ll get stripped down, cleaned up and fixed soon enough. In the end it’ll be a pretty nice game.
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That’s frustrating. I’ve been there also. Will you let it go and make the best of it? That’s what I usually do. Not worth the time or stress. I usually send pics of the “true” condition the couple times I’ve been duped. I just let them know they aren’t honest members of this community, and to please not do that to any other people again. I can handle the setback by restoring the game, but many people would be devastated, especially if they are new to pinball.

Will you try to do a playfield swap? Looks and sounds like you found a nice cabinet. I know one or two members on here are selling new BR ramps. Maybe you can restore yours. I got lucky with mine, except it sustained minor cab damage during shipping due to minimal prep. I will restore the cab.

Mine still has the original lights. I’m considering converting to LEDs. How do people like the game after changing to LEDs? I do have pinstadium lights, which definitely helps.

Good luck with your BR!

#1363 3 years ago
Quoted from MattElder:

Thanks. I always let this stuff go. Like you said, it's not worth the stress. In my 16 years in the hobby I've dealt with plenty of basketcase games and sellers that were less than forthcoming about the true condition of the games.
I'll have it fixed up in short order. I have a plastics set, cannon base and door, cannon base decals, cord, line cord cover, LEDs (this will be my first LED job, btw. All these years I've been an incandescent fan, but I'm slowly being converted. Haha), cash box, cover and clip, target foam, 2 Cliffy's and some other stuff on the way. That's a good start for now. Someday I may consider a playfield swap. I know the repros are coming out fairly soon.

Nice, good luck with your BR restore. It will be an awesome example when you are done. I agree it’s better to take a disappointing pin and restore it, possibly returning it back to the pinball community someday a much better game than when you got it. It’s a great way for talented collectors with experience to make this hobby better.

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#1371 3 years ago
Quoted from MattElder:

If you’re talking to me, as I said, that homemade piece of shit is what was in the game when I got it. I did buy all new parts. Never in a million years would I put something that crappy in a game.

Do they sell cannon assemblies somewhere?

#1376 3 years ago
Quoted from MattElder:

The cannon housing and door were reproduced by James at Pinball Inc. I got mine directly from him. He reproduced the plastics set as well. I picked that up also.

Thanks, good to know just in case!

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