Which do you like better? Why?
Quoted from catboxer:I have both, I would trade BK way before I ever give up BH. Black hole is awesome. I love getting multiball going on both levels. It plays really fast when it's waxed up and the upper playfield slingshots are dialed in.
It IS fast. one of the few widebodys that move the ball that quick. I love the upper slings, and my pop bumpers are lively as well
Gonna be the nerd here who says Black Hole all the way. I'm Gottlieb guy thick and thin, but the multi-ball over playfield levels is next level. Super challenging to achieve, and there's absolutely nothing compares to the optical illusion of having two balls on two different planes on two different slopes. Also the art package on Black Hole is light years better.
Quoted from radial_head:Gonna be the nerd here who says Black Hole all the way. I'm Gottlieb guy thick and thin, but the multi-ball over playfield levels is next level. Super challenging to achieve, and there's absolutely nothing compares to the optical illusion of having two balls on two different planes on two different slopes. Also the art package on Black Hole is light years better.
What he said! The only downside to BH is that it’s a bear to work on and shop. Certainly not for the faint hearted.
Quoted from Frippertron:What he said! The only downside to BH is that it’s a bear to work on and shop. Certainly not for the faint hearted.
I agree. When I got mine, it didn't need a whole ton of playfield work but needed quite a bit of board work. Once I got it all shopped out, I haven't had a single issue with it.
Was just working on a Buddys and it's literally been making me want to off myself or give up on working on games altogether. Great learning experience, but damn.
I have BK and BH and have hung onto them since the 80s and I've unloaded a LOT of games over the years so obviously I love each. I'd say BK is generally more fun more of the time. BH is a tougher game with a lot of open space on the top playfield, but as mentioned there is NO equal in pinball to BH's three multiballs going on two different levels with one of them turned backwards. BH's lower playfield being backwards is a fun and challenging playfield all by itself with just one ball. I've had good luck with my BH's reliability but only after doing the ground wire mods. They are both immutable classics.
I will say, Black Knight was far more revolutionary than Black Hole, but plays way worse. BK plays like a total clunker to me. In my head, the Black Knight layout and concept wasn't totally flushed out and smooth playing until BK2K was released, but the original BK definitely paved the way for pinball as we know it today.
Tough match up. Ive owned both. Which one would I want to own again? BH for sure. I owned it for less than a year and I dont think I ever got multiball.
BK you typically get multiball every game. The soundtrack on BH is nauseatingly repetitive but the gameplay is far superior (even though its a bit slow) and with that awesome spinning backglass it is a thing of beauty for sure.
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