On the list for an LE... Last LE I bought was STLE.
My LE comes tomorrow. Does anyone sell clear plastic protectors yet? How about Cliffy protectors? Anyone adding mylar or other protection want to share?
I took the day off today to wait for my LE arrival. Trying to figure out which game moves to the garage to make room.
One of the first things I do with new Stern games is put mylar under the front on the apron to keep the edge from digging in to the clear coat. I just got a 3D printer, so I'm looking for quick projects to hone my skills. I whipped up some channel molding that snaps in place and fits perfectly.
Just a heads up. When you don't plunge the ball hard enough to get it to the upper playfield, it comes back, drops off the ramp and hits the playfield just below the entrance to the right orbit. There probably should be mylar there from the factory but there isn't. I went ahead and installed a square of mylar there just to keep from getting too worn over time.
Quoted from Chalkey:
Full set protectors:
While they are spendy, I might hold out for a colored set. They look really good on my IMDN.
No premium/LE set. I much prefer clear over colors.
Quoted from LowScores:
Any adjustments people are making on their games?
My LE was pretty much plug and play but it seems like the music is down from when I was at MGC (makes sense). I'm also having a heck of a time with the metal ramp shots making it up top. I know all the inner shots are pretty tight on this but I'm wondering if there is anything I can do. I'd say only 1 in 4 'solid' shot make it up top.
Yeah my LE was total plug and play too. Not the slightest problem out of the box. Any shot with decent speed makes it to the upper playfield from the flail lane ramp, so there must be something out of whack on yours?
The only changes I've made was to install protectors on the shooter lane, under the front of the apron and on the sling and flipper lane plastics. I would really like a full set of CLEAR plastic protectors because there are a lot of plastics on this game that I suspect will not last long otherwise. I would also like some cool speaker lights with cutouts and possibly a Cliffy protector for the shield lock. Today I'm installing the real knocker and the quiet fan mod. Also, will be connecting the game to a Polk subwoofer today!
Quoted from Chalkey:
What's your raw material & source? Looks great. Did you have to flame polish the edges or anything or does it cut clean?
Lowes and Home Depot sell small sheets of Lexan or Polycarbonate. Do not use acrylic. A scroll saw does a nice job, drill press for the holes and then a progression of sandpaper grades to smooth the edges.
Still no plastic protectors for Premium/LE??? I know they will be released as soon as I make my own...
That is a pretty sizeable update for only going from .93 to .94! Hopefully a few more like that before we hit 1.0 and beyond! Downloading now...
Quoted from tilted81:
I don’t understand why it wasn’t there from the factory? Chances of me getting that on bubble free since being riddled w/ divots is about 0% I’d say.
Bubbles have a lot more to do with technique than dimples. Sure doing it before the dimples would be preferable, but doing a piece of mylar that size is not easy even on a perfectly smooth playfield. If you do it right, roll it down slowly and keep the bubbles out as you go, it will be fine. I've laid mylar on old Williams games that were as dimpled as can possibly be and had no bubbles...
Has anyone installed the Pinball Life knocker yet? I just installed mine and it doesn't work. I've installed many knockers over the years on SAM and SPIKE and this is the first one that has not worked. I double checked all of the wiring, fuse and the menu settings. One thing that I notice is the power cord to the node board on the BKSOR LE has an extra capacitor in line that is not there on my SW Premium.Added 158 days ago:
Edit. Turns out my knocker board had a bad solder joint. Quick dab of solder and its working great now.
I love the upper playfield. It adds a lot to the game. As others have mentioned, you can get a six ball multiball by building the catapult and knight mb at the same time. Trying to loop and then lock is tough as hell. No way is the upper playfield easy. Nice to have a Stern that is not 2-flippers. And yes, I don't care what anyone says, Black Knight is not Black Knight without the upper playfield.
I ordered the plunger today. It looks really nice, plus it has a nice shape that should feel and function like a regular plunger. Something about having an odd shape like a stormtrooper just takes away from the feel of making a skill shot plunge.
Quoted from TREX:
Plunger is pressed in.
He is talking about the whole rod including the new skull head. Normally you take off the rubber tip, remove the clip and spring, slide the plunger rod out and then install the new one in the opposite order. Why sell the entire thing including the housing????
Just wanted to post an update. The Pinball Life knocker works great in this game. Mine initially a bad solder joint on the board. It's fixed now and loud at hell. I have it striking the back of the lower cabinet instead of the cross member.
Quoted from Wmsfan:
I'm just looking for the plastic protectors, but thank you for letting me know.
Sorry I implied playfield protectors but meant plastic protectors. They have a huge set for Pro and I would expect a set for the premiums/LE. There are a ton of tiny plastics on this game that I worry about!
Quoted from aobrien5:
Can you add an external sub to these game just by alligator clipping onto the existing sub posts?
Just put the game in the basement yesterday and this is the first thing I'm thinking about.
I've got a Polk sub on mine. Sounds great!
Installed apron cards yesterday!
For those who are getting in Premiums, I will report the one thing that was wrong on my LE when I pulled it out of the box a few weeks ago. Having never played the game or watched videos online it took me at least 20 games to realize that I hadn't started any modes and the flail didn't spin very much. It didn't take long to find both problems were because the exit switch actuator from the center ramp was stuck upward. It was hidden behind the catapult so I didn't notice it! Two seconds to fix and the game suddenly got 100x more fun!
The one thing I would really like to see changed in future software is the Black Knight (SR) voice call-outs. The bass is way saturated or something and it makes at least half of the callouts sound muddy or garbled. I wish they could remix or re-record them to get the voice more clear to understand and make it sound a little more like the original game from 1980.
Quoted from newtoit:
So when is tim sexton, steve ritchie, or deadflip going to inform us where we can get the 2 plastic protectors and "playfield enhancement?" As shown in the livestream.
I thought I heard on the video it would take a couple weeks and then buyers would get an email and instructions for getting one.
Tonight I found a gray shooter spring in my spare parts pile and put it on my Stern skull shooter mod in BKSOR. This spring is just right for the job! Gray is two steps stronger than the orange spring that came with the mod. The extra power in this spring easily makes the upper playfield without being overly powerful. So anyone buying a stronger spring for the replacement shooter, I would go with gray/silver.
Spring tension from lowest to highest:
Quoted from November:
White LED are way too cold for this game with red/orange nuances. Maybe Warm white will fit better...still prefer the red ones
Yeah I'm going to go ahead and say it: those cool white bulbs look terrible. I love the stock colors not sure why change? To each their own I guess.
I'm expecting my full set of plastic protectors to come in soon. That will take care of those ugly metal washers.
Quoted from Wmsfan:
Hey John_I- who has the plastic protectors?
I ordered them from Germany. They only have the Pro on the website and the Premium/LE coming soon. I emailed them and badgered them into sending me a set early for my LE.
Quoted from Wmsfan:
Is this the new plastic that's supposed to help out?
Interesting. This would be a much simpler way of distributing it than trying to go through Stern or your distributor.
Wow. I really like the new code. The game is much more balanced now and the upper playfield is blocked by the flail and the drop target more than before. Seems like a little more on the light and sound end of things too. Hopefully a couple more polish releases, but this game is pretty complete at this point.
I did have a minor bug tonight. The game awarded me an extra ball and followed that by saying extra ball is lit. I must have hit the extra ball the first instant that it was available and the effects go reversed!
Got the new Speakerlightkits.com LE kit with mirrored acrylic inserts. Easy installation and they look fantastic. Here is a quick video on the out of box setting:
Quoted from LowScores:
My upper flipper still drags back to its starting position.
I can't tell if my issue is with the coil at all. Everything seems tight. Are there any known issues or adjustments with the shaft and component stack up through to the upper play field? It feels like the resistance is in the rotation on that axis and not the coil/sleeve setup.
Can you pull the flipper straight up away from the playfield even the slightest bit? There is supposed to be a millimeter of play or so.
I got my upper playfield enhancement kit yesterday from Pinball Life and it has the original plastic in it without the additional hole for the new post. Oh well. Email sent to Pinball Life to see what the story is.
Quoted from Captainhook:
Here's a picture of mine. I just drilled a new hole in the old one. I'm just going to keep the new one as a spare, I measured it and it's 7/16 of an inch over and 1/8 of an inch up on that left corner. Drill bit size is 5/32".
Thanks. I sized your picture the same as the plastic and held my plastic up to the screen so I could mark the spot for the hole. Worked great.
Quoted from djgoaway:
Why did they cut a hole and insert a plastic insert piece underneath the upper playfield flipper? Not sure how this passed quality control. The ball gets stuck frequently.[quoted image]
This has been discussed many times. This allows the upper playfield to be removed without removing the flipper. Some games are missing a washer or something under the plate. Easy fix. Search this thread.
Quoted from DugFreez:
I am hoping to have 5.25" speaker plates (as well as various colored speaker surrounds) available in the future to make the 4" to 5.25" speaker upgrade a more affordable option. The target goal is to make it so a person can do the speaker WITH speaker light upgrade for a comparable price to what the speaker upgrade alone is currently.
Also... I already have 2 different style of Speaker Light Kits that are designed for BK:SoR Pro on my website now. I should have the BK:SoR acrylic design from the video listed on my website next week sometime.
Had a party last weekend and got nothing but positive comments on the LE speaker lighting kit. They look awesome!!!
Quoted from Jared:
BKSOR LE #425 Has landed in Rockwall Texas! Super Proud of Steve and Tim on this one!!! Awesome!!!!! Also thanks to dugfreez for the RAD light rings!!![quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]
LOL, we're those speaker lights installed before the first game played?
Quoted from Pinball-Wiz:
No offense, but do you think guests at your party are going to tell you they suck or don't like them though? . And I'm not saying I don't like them, just that guest opinions are usually skewed on things out of courtesy.
That skews both ways. I have a couple of friends who basically don't like any mod and will certainly speak up at every opportunity.
In this case even the most hardened anti mod, anti clown puke, anti LED curmudgeon will most likely have to admit that this mod looks cool.
Has anyone actually confirmed a "black nub of death" on a BKSOR instead of blue? Are they available for purchase anywhere?
Quoted from NeilMcRae:*** Check your play fields ***
Folks, couple of guys have posted on the mega chipping thread that they have BK:SOR with chipping. Can I ask you to all check and if you have chipping to report it to your dealer...
Yes, everyone check your BKSORs carefully.
No chipping here, but my BKSOR LE has some of the pooling of clear around the posts. Shows up as a ripple around the posts. Not bad compared to the Wonka and JJPPOTC games as I've seen and it is only on a handful of post and not on others. I have contacted my distributor and sent a bunch of detailed pictures. Basically the clear has not fully cured. It is soft. I went ahead and put clear washers underneath the two worst of the posts. To me this is not bad enough to warrant a whole new populated playfield, but I would like to at least get a spare playfield out of this at some point.
Anyone get a coin door lockout harness and switch yet from Stern? What is the approved route for that - if any?
Quoted from Finrod:
I'm at the Grand Ole Gameroom Expo in Nashville and they have a LE here, and on it the upper flipper flips first followed by the main flipper,
That is wrong. Should be the other way around.
From what I understand the pros are exploiting the game in tournaments by trapping balls on the lower flippers and using the upper flipper for endless loops during multiball. Swapping the flipper wires to make the upper flipper go first would put an end to that.
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