Like others, I think it simply automates something you can do yourself. I don’t notice my upper playfield being any “easier” since installing it. If anything It gives you a new wait time after a loop shot.

Yeah, I think it's worth installing too. It's not going to change a lot, it just help with a little bump.

Do you have to remove the upper playfield to put it in? I got mine in the mail but haven't really looked at it closely yet.

nope. takes about 30 seconds.

Exactly - it's all "right on top" of everything.

The big thing it does is bump the ball coming around the loop or from the VUK more toward the upper flipper than the game normally does without it. For me, that makes the game/upper playfield easier. Your mileage may vary.

Just joined the Club!......#538 LE

Can anyone tell me if there is a common issue with the left drop target shot? I feel like I have to crank it for it to go down. Maybe its like scoleri brothers in Ghostbusters and need to tighten up the spring? then once I get to the VUK it just shoots it straight to the drain on the upper playfield, making it useless to go for that shot to get to the upper playfield.

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Do you have the "bump" enhancement installed? And does it still drain directly with that enhancement in place?

I noticed mine was'nt going down in certain occasions and thought something was wrong. Then I noticed it's only in certain modes, like multiballs. So not sure if it's wanted or not.

No not yet, it’s coming the mail. That should help it though hey?

Ahhh ok that makes more sense. Thanks!

Dang it, I want my topper and code update! Rarflflarghle.....
Getting impatient over here.

TheRudyB - How does one go about getting this kit? Is it a “call Stern” scenario or will our distributor get it on our behalf by asking them?

The vuk definitely shouldn't be shooting it to the drain... it always hits the flipper on mine... check the vuk power and play around with that first.

Thanks!! Just ordered!

You can do either and get it for free. Or pay $2.99 plus shipping and get it faster from Pinball Life (hopefully with the extra hole needed already drilled it by now that mine didn’t have several months ago.) Or if you want something even faster, look at the pictures of it online and just wedge a spare star post or something in there to create a similar bump in the same spot in the rubber ring.

Yep!

This capacitor fixed all the issues I had with gi and shield flail problems. Since installed zero issues in 2 weeks of play. I know there are a few other le owners with similar problem occurring. This has definitely fixed it. Was sent from my distro.

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Very interesting. Glad it has seemed to work!
Mind PM’ing me the details of the distributor, name of a contact there etc?

When I contacted stern and asked them about a cap solution, they shot it down and said that was only for a certain few older games.

I’m sure this will jinx it now, but I did go through and replace all red upper GI bulbs (a solid hour+ job), and so far for about a week I’ve been ok.

Finally found a pro with the help of a fellow pinsider. How do people feel about a shaker in it? Meh? or F Yeah?

My personal rule for adding a shaker motor to my games is to ask if a shaker motor enhances the game's theme and further brings you into the game's world when you play. So games like Earthshaker (obviously), Twister, etc.: Is there anything in the theme that might cause the ground and/or the surrounding area to shake/quake/rattle/rumble/vibrate? So WWF Royal Rumble counts - not because of the word "rumble" in its name but because stomping, bodyslams, etc. cause a wrestling ring to shake. Games where car engines are regularly revving and bombs are frequently exploding are some more great examples. I would also put a shaker motor in any Jurassic Park game because of approaching T-Rex's steps, etc.

So all of that said, I haven't put a shaker in my BKSOR (and likely won't) because I'm still not seeing many (if any) places where a shaking effect would make $100 worth of sense to me. It makes no sense to me (again: in my personal opinion) for a game to just shake for no apparent, well-integrated reason. Plus I did the speaker+subwoofer upgrades because of the soundtrack, so I already have a well-integrated shaker motor! (When it comes to rock band/heavy metal games, get/add the top-of-line speaker and subwoofer upgrades. Trust me on this: you won't NEED a shaker motor after that upgrade.)

So for BKSOR, my $0.02 is to put the shaker dollars towards the sound system upgrades instead.

Definitely. Magnasave massive shaking is awesome along with all the other monster fights and knight battle hits etc.

I would definitely recommend the shaker on this game with all of the battles being raged! It's awesome on the magna-save and the extra ball as well. Best shaker I've had on a Stern game so far.

Thanks all for your shaker opinions!

I can't wait for the topper. I hope it integrates with the shaker so that it feels like he's throwing a fit and shaking the machine.

As an LE owner the shaking is really awesome. It’s worth the loot to do it!

One of the best integrated shakers I can think of. Highly recommended!

The shaker effects on the LE are awesome... and I'm not the biggest shaker motor fan. I can usually take them or leave them.

I just joined the club, bought a pro.
It came with a non-installed mylar for in front of the knight. Any opinions on installing or leaving off?

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Put it on. That's a brutal spot for the pf.

Mylar up!

Mylar the pf is a big call... once it's on its on and some people dont like Mylar on their pfs so just thinking resale.

I have an LE with quite a number of games. That area gets it a bit but not so much as to Mylar it. I would summise that the Mylar was included as an operators option. I would only ever consider it if I was throwing it out in the wild where it would cop a beating...

If I were buying a second hand one I wouldn't get one with Mylar... just my personal choice. For better or worse Mylar looks shit and it's a big area that it covers.

in short your call but my suggestion is don't do it.

Huh, I light up my games real bright (pinstadiums) and I never notice mylars except the old ones on my South Park. They peel off just fine if you don't want them though right? I've never removed them.

Do you have a picture of the mylar? Mine did not come with this.

I know some people hate them, but the playfield protector works really well for this game.

It's going to be a long 9 days....I just joined the club and purchased a NIB BKSOR Premium (with shaker motor). Delivery is Friday, November 29!! Obligatory unboxing photos to be posted shortly after arrival!

This game is so good...you will not regret it .

Mylar, home use, leave it off.

And this came with your game? I wonder if Stern will send me one.

It comes in the bag with the manual and plastics and all.

This type of mylar will come off super easily if needed down the road. Where mylar can become an issue is old games where they were put down with heavy adhesive on a non-clearcoated playfield, then baked by the incandescent insert bulbs for a couple decades. A small self adhesive piece like this one on a modern clearcoated playfield with only LEDs under it will peel off later with minimal effort. If you put down a layer of wax first, even easier.

That said, I am not sure I see the benefit of putting this one on in a typical HUO environment. Just keep it clean and waxed. But there will be absolutely no harm in putting it on if it makes you more comfortable.

Are most people using it?

My experiences with mylar, like others have mentioned (partial opinion/facts)

It's bad when it bubbles or you want to remove
It's great to protect
I've never seen bad factory installed mylar within first 10 years.
It's usually only factory installed around the pops and it's practically invisible.
I've had 3 different T3's and they all have had factory installed mylar where the cannon launches the ball (and they all looked great!)
Almost all of the Family Guys have insert wear issues from the scoop kicking the ball out without mylar (and the impact is probably less than the T3 cannon)

This game is a little different - ball "can" jump and land in this area, but I only notice it once in a while
I'm going to op to not install for my home-use, but I would install for a location (better safe than sorry)
If I notice anything unusual (or hear reports from other people) than I can always add it later.

Thanks for everybody's thoughts.

Clearcoat

Mylar

Pick one. For home use, you don't need both. Realistically, for home use you don't need either.

So my “ball launch” coil seems to be a little lazy all of a sudden. I cranked the coil power to 255 and it is now working, but anything shy seems to put me half way up the ramp. Anyone know what could cause that?

Had the same problem. For me it was a bolt coming up under the ramp, making it lop sided. Tightened it down and it fixed. Took me forever to figure it out.

Oh, good call. I’ll check that.

I just installed these flipper toppers and pop bumper toppers, That I ordered from Hooked on Pinball.

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