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Black Knight SOR with 47,000 plays

By Coz

1 year ago


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#1 1 year ago

My friend has a Black Knight Sword of Rage pro at his arcade with over 47,000 plays. It looks and plays great. Only real wear spot is the left scoop/vuk. Playfield still looks good and mechs are functioning great.

What’s the highest plays number of plays you’ve seen on a modern Stern?

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#2 1 year ago

Would you buy a game with over 40,000 plays? What’s the most plays you’ve seen on a newer Stern?

#3 1 year ago

Love seeing the modern games with a ton of plays. Just shows how much people over worry about number of plays. I know some people that won't buy a game with over a 1000 plays on it.

#4 1 year ago

That's pretty amazing that it looks so good! I was expecting the shooter lane at least to be blown out and it doesn't look bad either. They must clean and wax pretty regularly. If it was a premium, I bet the upper playfield would be pretty much worn out and needing replacement at this point.

Personally I wouldn't buy something with that many plays simply because there are so many un-routed games out there, but this might represent a bargain at some point for someone looking for a good player's machine.

#5 1 year ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Love seeing the modern games with a ton of plays. Just shows how much people over worry about number of plays. I know some people that won't buy a game with over a 1000 plays on it.

Some guys are nervous buying a game with so many plays. All depends -if you are a collector who wants a pristine example or just want a good playing game.

Since I have games on location, I personally don’t worry so much about plays, Stern has made a reliable product and there are plenty of resources to replace or repair common wear items

#6 1 year ago
Quoted from Coz:

Some guys are nervous buying a game with so many plays. All depends -if you are a collector who wants a pristine example or just want a good playing game.
Since I have game on location, I personally don’t worry so much about plays, Stern has made a reliable product and there are plenty of resources to replace or repair common wear items

I'd understand being nervous buying a game with 40000 plays but 1000 it's unnecessary to be worried I think. In fact anything that needs to be tweaked to get it playing to it's best has probably been done already, it's proved not to have any out the box issues and maybe have some nice mods already added!

#7 1 year ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Love seeing the modern games with a ton of plays. Just shows how much people over worry about number of plays. I know some people that won't buy a game with over a 1000 plays on it.

Those are the same people who buy a new car every four years. Personally I rather buy it after all the warranty and factory recall work has been done…

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#8 1 year ago

the long-standing collectors who got our feet wet in this hobby by buying games 10, 15, 20+ years old, i can guarantee we bought games with better than 40K plays. And we didn't know or care.

#9 1 year ago

Thanks for sharing!
Great example of what pins are designed to do and why Stern makes workhorse pro machines.

#10 1 year ago

Is it $1 a play? This thing made some money. I’d like to know average ball time.

#11 1 year ago
Quoted from Kderrick:

Is it $1 a play? This thing made some money. I’d like to know average ball time.

I can find out and post back here

#12 1 year ago

Funny this thread popped up today. I just bought this Monster Bash special with 44,000 plays on it yesterday. It looks awesome I couldn’t be happier, very minimal wear. This was at a free play arcade so not any money in it.

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#13 1 year ago
Quoted from NoSkills:

Love seeing the modern games with a ton of plays. Just shows how much people over worry about number of plays. I know some people that won't buy a game with over a 1000 plays on it.

I've owned 30 plus pins and I can honestly say I have never...not even once...looked at the numbers of plays on a pin before I bought it. Price and condition are king for me.

Funny story, years ago I bought a Transformers Pro from a local op that had it in one of the more popular locations at the time. Game looked and played great as the op really takes care of his games. Later on when it was time to sell it, when the guy who bought it came to pick it up he looked at the number of plays on it for fun and it was 27,000 and change. I was shocked, I had never looked even when I owned it, but that amount of plays didn't faze the buyer at all.

#14 1 year ago
Quoted from Coz:

My friend has a Black Knight Sword of Rage pro at his arcade with over 47,000 plays. It looks and plays great. Only real wear spot is the left scoop/vuk. Playfield still looks good and mechs are functioning great.
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Thanks for posting this. I’ve always been interested in how many plays games get. I wish the older games kept track of lifetime plays. I’d be really interested to see how many plays some of the real beat up games have. The Disney Resort Stern games that are basically lifeless must have well over 100,000 plays but they don’t get much maintenance.
I just checked my JP. It’s just over 2 years old now, we got it NIB and it has 1,228 lifetime plays. Other than a chip in the shooter lane that happened the first day and some minor dimpling that happened the first weekend it looks brand new. Coil stops are still good, original flipper rubber doesn’t even have a mark on them.

#15 1 year ago
Quoted from LesManley:

I've owned 30 plus pins and I can honestly say I have never...not even once...looked at the numbers of plays on a pin before I bought it. Price and condition are king for me.

Same. Except price and condition would have to be co-kings, right?

#16 1 year ago
Quoted from DanQverymuch:

Same. Except price and condition would have to be co-kings, right?

Maybe price is king and condition queen?

#17 1 year ago

Plays can be different.40k plays in a toddler type setting wont equal 40k plays in Elwins gameroom.

#18 1 year ago
Quoted from pinballplusMN:

Plays can be different.40k plays in a toddler type setting wont equal 40k plays in Elwins gameroom.

That’s a great point and I’m sure in an arcade setting there’s a lot of restarts because people just don’t seem to understand pinball. But I’m truly amazed when you look at the number of hours on a machine has a 44,000 plays that’s basically been on nonstop for four years. Impressive it holds up my computer seems to fall apart every other year.

#19 1 year ago

That looks great.

#20 1 year ago

Games are just getting broke in at 10k.

#21 1 year ago

I once got an Addams that had $25,000 on the audits. It was in really good shape. I was more impressed at the time the batteries never died and reset it.

#22 1 year ago

That game came out of a free at location near me. I got it from them. I cleaned it up, put in new rings, and swapped the gi for comet frosted bulbs. I thought it looks pretty good too. I had to fix a few things like optos, but it was in good shape then with 40k plays. I had a bunch of people message me asking for play count too when I listed it. Some refused to believe it. These machines are meant to be played not stated at.
Glad it's still doing well at Uptown. Great location.

#23 1 year ago

My God thats a lot of play for such a mediocre modern game.
My Deadpool Pro will hit 45,000 plays this month which is my most to date.
I got a 2nd DP pro as I'll semi-retire this high play one eventually.

#24 1 year ago
Quoted from freeplay3:

I once got an Addams that had $25,000 on the audits. It was in really good shape. I was more impressed at the time the batteries never died and reset it.

The one at Pinball Hall of Fame had over $100k earnings on it Tim showed me
when we did a repair on it, but that was about 8 years ago lol.

#25 1 year ago
Quoted from Parkshow30:

Thanks for posting this. I’ve always been interested in how many plays games get. I wish the older games kept track of lifetime plays. I’d be really interested to see how many plays some of the real beat up games have. The Disney Resort Stern games that are basically lifeless must have well over 100,000 plays but they don’t get much maintenance.
I just checked my JP. It’s just over 2 years old now, we got it NIB and it has 1,228 lifetime plays. Other than a chip in the shooter lane that happened the first day and some minor dimpling that happened the first weekend it looks brand new. Coil stops are still good, original flipper rubber doesn’t even have a mark on them.

Not even broken in yet. Awesome pin.

#26 1 year ago
Quoted from HighProtein:

thats a lot of play for such a mediocre modern game.

In your opinion.

#27 1 year ago
Quoted from JodyG:

In your opinion.

Ya that game is great.

#28 1 year ago
Quoted from LesManley:

I've owned 30 plus pins and I can honestly say I have never...not even once...looked at the numbers of plays on a pin before I bought it. Price and condition are king for me.

Well then you're the perfect candidate to buy a game like this . For me plays are similar to (but not quite the same as) miles on a car. Condition IS king...but if a car has 250k miles or a pin has 100k plays on it, it's very likey to show it, and will effect the resale. Again, unless you're buying it!

#29 1 year ago
Quoted from arcyallen:

Well then you're the perfect candidate to buy a game like this . For me plays are similar to (but not quite the same as) miles on a car. Condition IS king...but if a car has 250k miles or a pin has 100k plays on it, it's very likey to show it, and will effect the resale. Again, unless you're buying it!

On a game this new the biggest items you would have to replace are an MPU or node board for the most part. Not cost comparable to a car needing a new engine or transmission. Not a good carguement man.

#30 1 year ago

This thread makes me miss my SOR Pro

I figure 47,000 plays at an arcade on a fast game like SOR Pro may be the equivalent of 5000 plays on a home use machine by a good player, so if the playfield looked good and the mechs work then I wouldn't rule out buying one.

#31 1 year ago

I got my first pin which was a JP Pro last November and got my second one which is a GZ Premium this past August.

My JP probably has like 700+ plays on it if I had to guess and my GZ probably has like around 100 plays on it.

I would almost guess that the actual play time on the machines would be longer on GZ though because JP is just so fucking hard lol.

#32 1 year ago

Plays the same as day one.

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#33 1 year ago

I have a STTNG with a counter on the coin door at 89,000. Game has been on free play for a while so I’m sure the real count is significantly higher. Some cracks in the plastics, but the playfield has held up really well.

#34 1 year ago
Quoted from JodyG:

In your opinion.

Sold a couple of modern sterns (JP and Mando) but kept BKSOR. It’s a much better game in my opinion. I don’t like the long trek in JP. BKSOR gets my pinball vibe rollin quickly!

#35 1 year ago
Quoted from SNES:

Sold a couple of modern sterns (JP and Mando) but kept BKSOR. It’s a much better game in my opinion. I don’t like the long trek in JP. BKSOR gets my pinball vibe rollin quickly!

Absolutely! Black knight and iron man are 2 games with shorter ball times that keep you hitting the start button. Not really the best for a 1 game collection, but work great if you have a few games.

#36 1 year ago
Quoted from SNES:

Sold a couple of modern sterns (JP and Mando) but kept BKSOR. It’s a much better game in my opinion. I don’t like the long trek in JP. BKSOR gets my pinball vibe rollin quickly!

Exactly...I really want to own one some day. I local place has all the new Stern games on free play, and BKSOR gets most of my time every time I go. The simple layout just works for me, and I love the soundtrack.

#37 1 year ago
Quoted from DudeRegular:

On a game this new the biggest items you would have to replace are an MPU or node board for the most part. Not cost comparable to a car needing a new engine or transmission. Not a good carguement man.

I didn't mention boards, engines or transmissions. I said the higher use will a) likely be evident, and b) effect resale value. What words did I actually say that you disagree with?

#38 1 year ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/how-many-plays-before-a-stern-machine-s-flippers-get-weak#post-7147257

I posted some audits of some of the newer games at an Arcade I maintain in another thread. All these games look and play great.

#39 1 year ago
Quoted from Coz:

What’s the highest plays number of plays you’ve seen on a modern Stern?

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#40 1 year ago
Quoted from Chrizg:

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Wow-

Is that iron man? That definitely was a money maker

#41 1 year ago

I'd like to hear some more details about that Iron Man and some more pictures.

#42 1 year ago
Quoted from rai:

I'd like to hear some more details about that Iron Man and some more pictures.

Chris runs Up/Down bar/arcades in the Midwest. They do a lot of volume normally and then have promotions like nickel game night, so plays can add up very fast. Coincidentally, he was the one who bought my Transformers Pro from my post above.

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