I think with the U-Turn so close to the flippers it would be really hard to play if the slingshots were closer together.

I've recently become the owner of a BK2K and I have a question that I can't seem to find an answer to.

Spelling KNI GHT with the drop targets enables Kickback and Magna-Save and lights BLACK but WTF does spelling BLACK get you?

BTW, I have never seen Sorcerer before. I just looked it up. Now I want one. Thanks alot...

Spelling out B-L-A-C-K lights the Skyway for Skyway Bonus of 1 Million. And a pretty cool light show to boot.

In comparison to BK2K? No, you really don't. Sorcerer is actually quite boring, IMHO.

Sorcerer is a great game that they didn't make a lot of. I have one that is a keeper in my basement arcade. Ed

Obviously you haven't played much of it or you just don't like games that kick your ass! Sorcerer can be pretty brutal to average pin players. Many people say its very easy and I just don't see it.

Interesting research. It's been over 25 years since I studied geometry, but I think this is correct thinking:

Consider the following:
1. the "opening to a ramp" is an object.
2. this object has a width "W"
3. this object has a distance from the tip of a flipper "D" (be sure to measure to the center of the object)
4. A is the "angular size of the object, measured in degrees."

You need to compare A of one machine to A of another machine.

The ANGULAR SIZE of the opening for the shot is what we care about. The bigger it is, the easier the shot is, but it's a RATIO based on A=W/D. You can't just compare widths in a vacuum.

I'm sure a mathematician could describe this more elegantly.

Let us know what you discover!
-mof

If they are both the same price and condition, I'd take the Sorcerer.

I put lighting flippers on sorc. makes it harder and you get more play off the center post.

This is boss advice.
I have my lighting flippers ready for when the PF comes back from John.
-mof

Well, then, I thank you for calling me an above-average player, because I absolutely *roll that thing over* when I play it. Quite literally, thank you.

There's not enough "there" there to be captivating to me. While BK2K obviously has a sharp upper hand in being the pin that drew me in, there's still far, far more going on with the playfield than there is on Sorcerer. Shot layout is better and harder, and those four years between the two pins' release really, *really* hurts Sorcerer a lot in terms of full experience.

Glad you like it. I can play it any time I desire to. It's been a while since it called to me. There's a good reason for that.

Very cool idea!

This would definitely make a difference in making the game more difficult for me...but the game would still be limited by what it is.

Yea, that seems just like Mr. Knight. Wait until the ball goes up the left ramp then display a seizure inducing light show while the ball whips around the loop, down the return ramp and into the drain and then the lights stop and you're like "where the hell did the ball go?"

That's why I like it. When I got mine, one of the first things I did was make sure all the flashers were working. I love the light show on that game.

Never played Sorcerer but the art looks awesome. I like any pinball table that can be confused for an 80's heavy metal album cover.