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Black Knight 2000 Club - Knights of the Lightning Wheel.

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#1051 6 months ago
Quoted from dfester007:

Still trying to find a reason current market estimate for BK2000. Any one willing to share a fair current market value… ?

3500-4k seems like the going fair price. Thats for one that has a bit of wear and might need a part or two. Not a project machine or mint one

#1052 6 months ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/machine/black-knight-2000

Theres a page like this here on Pinside for virtually every game ever built. Lots of useful info and sale stats.

#1053 6 months ago

I just bought a BK2K for $3200. It was likely more worth $3000 in my mind, but I really wanted it to sit next to my full-restored cherry BK.

It was overall decent shape, but certainly not a project. I did install LEDs, Titan bands, flipper coils and linkages. The cabinet is a little on the rough side plus the colors faded, but I will be doing a complete cabinet resto and re-decaling soon.

Once the cabinet is done, I will consider the value of this pin to be easily $4000.00, or I can smoke the WTF-sellers crack-pipe and value it at $5500.00. Regardless, it will be a very top-shelf BK2k.

#1054 6 months ago

4 years I have been looking for such a beautiful finally there

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#1055 6 months ago

Is that a clear-coated OE playfield?

#1056 6 months ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

Ist das ein klarbeschichtetes OE-Spielfeld?

No is protector look at the bottom the red part is missing on the top it is on it, I had it redone like this

#1057 6 months ago
Quoted from Sisterhood:

4 years I have been looking for such a beautiful finally there

Where'd that glass cover with the Williams logo come from?

#1058 6 months ago
Quoted from TheOnlyest:

Woher kommt diese Glasabdeckung mit dem Williams-Logo?

it´s self made

#1059 6 months ago

I want one!

#1060 6 months ago

1 week later
#1061 6 months ago

Morning BK2000 friends,
I've had a bk2000 for several years now and enjoy the hell out of it.
Hoping someone out there can provide some guidance on where to start with an issue I currently have with it.
The game resets at what appears to be random times during play. For example,
when I start a game and BK identifies himself, the game resets before anything else happens.
Othertimes it happens when hitting the drawbridge or hitting a bumper in the upper playfield or activating the lightning wheel. Not sure when or what triggers it. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks much

#1062 6 months ago
Quoted from bdubord:

Morning BK2000 friends,
I've had a bk2000 for several years now and enjoy the hell out of it.
Hoping someone out there can provide some guidance on where to start with an issue I currently have with it.
The game resets at what appears to be random times during play. For example,
when I start a game and BK identifies himself, the game resets before anything else happens.
Othertimes it happens when hitting the drawbridge or hitting a bumper in the upper playfield or activating the lightning wheel. Not sure when or what triggers it. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks much

If you have original capacitors on the 5v supply. I’d start with replacing them.

#1063 6 months ago

Thanks Mrg50. They are indeed original.
Ill start there.

#1064 6 months ago

The ball from the left kickback tags the T drop target, and goes STM 4 out of five times. Is this normal? Guessing no.

Is there a tweak that can direct the ball to a flipper instead?

Thanks

#1065 6 months ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

The ball from the left kickback tags the T drop target, and goes STM 4 out of five times. Is this normal? Guessing no.
Is there a tweak that can direct the ball to a flipper instead?
Thanks

Try replacing the coil sleeve in the kickback coil. That should change the trajectory of the shot and is a cheap thing to try before bending the ball guide on the left

#1066 6 months ago
Quoted from attack7777:

Try replacing the coil sleeve in the kickback coil. That should change the trajectory of the shot and is a cheap thing to try before bending the ball guide on the left

Good idea. Will do.
Thanks.

1 week later
#1067 6 months ago
Quoted from Mrg50:If you have original capacitors on the 5v supply. I’d start with replacing them.

Thanks Mrg50. Replacing the caps did the trick....now for the upper playfield GI lamps.....
All the GI lamps on the upper playfield are out. I want to make sure I'm taking the right approach....
1) Check the fuses
2) inspect J6 and J7 on the interconnect for burned pins/connectors and the connection points on the smaller interconnect under the playfield (forget the proper name for it).
3) Test for voltage starting at J6 and J7 on the interconnect, then over to the smaller interconnect under the playfield to find where voltage isn't passing.
4) repair

I'm I missing anything?

Thanks much

#1068 6 months ago

Would like to get some opinions on converting the standard lamps on my BK2000 to LED. I've seen some photos on here with the LEDs and I'm very impressed with the results.
I do know it reduces the power draw and heat on the boards, which in turn, increases the life of the machine That is very positive for me.

Here are some thoughts I have:
What is the difficulty of such conversion? Is it as simple as replacing the bulbs?
How does such a conversion impact the value of the machine? Do you feel this is a positive or negative impact?

Looking forward to the responses.

Thanks

#1069 5 months ago

I replaced my bulbs with the 1SMD warm white from comet and I think it looks great. I found the 2SMD too bright for me.

#1070 5 months ago
Quoted from bdubord:

What is the difficulty of such conversion? Is it as simple as replacing the bulbs?
How does such a conversion impact the value of the machine? Do you feel this is a positive or negative impact?

What is the difficulty of such conversion? Is it as simple as replacing the bulbs?
Simple, Yes

How does such a conversion impact the value of the machine? Do you feel this is a positive or negative impact?
Positive. Folks around here seem to think that converting $100 worth of LED's makes their game worth an extra $500.

#1071 5 months ago

Black Knight 2000 also benefits greatly from an LED OCD board if you're going to install LEDs and want the original look.

2 months later
#1072 3 months ago

Just finished restoring my BK2K with a new Mirco playfield set. Its working great, and looks beautiful. I have barely played the game before restoring it, so I -think- I found some oddities: Activating the Magnasave also activates the kickback in the left outlane, and adding a credit during a game also rewards a U-turn... Are these things normal?

Also, is there supposed to be a rubber sleeve on the metal post in the top right corner? There wasn't when I took the game apart, but I figured there should be one. But it seems to make it really tricky to make a full loop.

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#1073 3 months ago
Quoted from koen12344:

is there supposed to be a rubber sleeve on the metal post in the top right corner? There wasn't when I took the game apart, but I figured there should be one. But it seems to make it really tricky to make a full loop.

No, a bumper there will hinder making the loop, and nearly impossible to make multiple loops. There are some super-thin post sleeves out there that can be used, but the vast majority of games out there have no bumper on that post.
Your new PF does look beautiful! Your old PF is definitely the worst BK2K i've ever seen!

#1074 3 months ago

Time to re-do the cabinet. Can someone please recommend a quality BK2K cabinet decal set? Im a bit learry of the ones on Ebay.

Thanks.

#1075 3 months ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

Time to re-do the cabinet. Can someone please recommend a quality BK2K cabinet decal set? Im a bit learry of the ones on Ebay.
Thanks.

https://www.planetarypinball.com/pinball-BK2K-CABSETNG

#1076 3 months ago
Quoted from wrd1972:

Time to re-do the cabinet. Can someone please recommend a quality BK2K cabinet decal set? Im a bit learry of the ones on Ebay.
Thanks.

I used the radcals from Mirco. Easy to install and they look great (though more expensive than the normal decals)

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#1077 48 days ago

My BK2000 playfield is worn, and may be recoverable for restoration. I am curious on anyone with experience with the Mirco playfield as there are lots of complaints on them regarding their quality. In addition, how well is the playfield holding up with wear and tear? Any issues where the ball drops on the playfield (such as from the top level to the bottom, or at the shooter lane drop at the W-I-N lights?

Or am I better to remove the mylar, restore the worn areas of my playfield (mostly the magna save and the left outlane) and reshoot it with automative clear?

Thanks!

#1078 46 days ago
Quoted from Michel_K17:

My BK2000 playfield is worn, and may be recoverable for restoration. I am curious on anyone with experience with the Mirco playfield as there are lots of complaints on them regarding their quality. In addition, how well is the playfield holding up with wear and tear? Any issues where the ball drops on the playfield (such as from the top level to the bottom, or at the shooter lane drop at the W-I-N lights?
Or am I better to remove the mylar, restore the worn areas of my playfield (mostly the magna save and the left outlane) and reshoot it with automative clear?
Thanks!

I'm also curious about this. They seem to be the only place I can currently find a playfield I'm looking for, but I also saw the complaints...

#1079 44 days ago

During the last few games the ball will fall off of the upper playfield without hitting the triangle wedge to the drop habit trail over the right flipper. If the ball is coming off the WAR letters and I don’t slow it down, it will shoot off the wedge at an angle and either go into the right outlane or the shooter lane trough.

Anyone have issues like this? Thanks!

#1080 44 days ago
Quoted from Michel_K17:

My BK2000 playfield is worn, and may be recoverable for restoration. I am curious on anyone with experience with the Mirco playfield as there are lots of complaints on them regarding their quality. In addition, how well is the playfield holding up with wear and tear? Any issues where the ball drops on the playfield (such as from the top level to the bottom, or at the shooter lane drop at the W-I-N lights?
Or am I better to remove the mylar, restore the worn areas of my playfield (mostly the magna save and the left outlane) and reshoot it with automative clear?
Thanks!

I got a set for mine and it looks amazing. Dimpled and pre-drilled in just the right spots. Very happy with it. Not sure how it will hold up in the long term (installed it about two months ago), but so far no complaints.

#1081 42 days ago
Quoted from koen12344:

I got a set for mine and it looks amazing. Dimpled and pre-drilled in just the right spots. Very happy with it. Not sure how it will hold up in the long term (installed it about two months ago), but so far no complaints.

Thank you for the feedback. Will order one soon.

1 month later
#1082 11 days ago

I haven't really dug into it yet but I am about to shop one of these out. I am experienced in pinball stuff and did a brisk scroll of this thread, but wanted to ask if there were any must-have improvements or mods I should be looking for? It looks like starship has the upper ramp if my current one is too gross. The chrome on the wireforms is pretty rough but I've never sent anything out to be plated and am hesitant. I think I may leave it incandescent so I can make the ocd board decision later; I haven't played this title hardly at all. Thanks for your time and have a good day!

#1083 10 days ago

I used the 1SMD leds from Comet in mine, and didn't need to use an ocd board. I found the 2SMD too bright for my taste.

1 week later
#1084 1 day ago

Hi looking for any help at the round table for trouble shooting my BK2K display all the sudden going blank. It was working one minute then not the next, I just opened the coin door to unjam a quarter mech and then all the sudden the display went blank.
Tested continuity in all fuses on the boards and all tested fine, tried a new ribbon cable I had on hand and also unplugged and reseated all cables to/from the display to the mpu, still got nothing and not sure where to look next. The game plays/sounds fine just no display.
Thanks for any tips!

#1085 1 day ago
Quoted from ArcadeBar:

Hi looking for any help at the round table for trouble shooting my BK2K display all the sudden going blank. It was working one minute then not the next, I just opened the coin door to unjam a quarter mech and then all the sudden the display went blank.
Tested continuity in all fuses on the boards and all tested fine, tried a new ribbon cable I had on hand and also unplugged and reseated all cables to/from the display to the mpu, still got nothing and not sure where to look next. The game plays/sounds fine just no display.
Thanks for any tips!

Check high voltages to displays if you haven’t already.

#1086 1 day ago
Quoted from Mrg50:

Check high voltages to displays if you haven’t already.

Thanks, I have only checked the continuity of the fuses, I'm new to using my multimeter. So to check the voltage to the display I need to locate where the power is coming to it from the power driver board?
Also is it possible for the fuses to show continuity in the board even if bad = do I need to take the fuses out of the board to test?

#1087 1 day ago
Quoted from ArcadeBar:

Thanks, I have only checked the continuity of the fuses, I'm new to using my multimeter. So to check the voltage to the display I need to locate where the power is coming to it from the power driver board?
Also is it possible for the fuses to show continuity in the board even if bad = do I need to take the fuses out of the board to test?

It seems like you are not very familiar with testing voltages. Be very careful around the high voltages. The problem could be many things; loose/bad cable, failed power supply, cold solder joint circuit card, failed logic., etc. Testing the power is a very easy check and will eliminate it as a possible problem and allow you to look at other issues.

#1088 1 day ago
Quoted from Mrg50:

It seems like you are not very familiar with testing voltages. Be very careful around the high…

I’m not, have watched a buddy do it a lot and he gave me a multimeter and now I know just enough to be dangerous lol. Hate to have the game sitting idle but I guess I can wait till he comes back into town next week.
Are there any particular fuses I should pull out and check for this?
Thanks!

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#1089 1 day ago
Quoted from ArcadeBar:

I’m not, have watched a buddy do it a lot and he gave me a multimeter and now I know just enough to be dangerous lol. Hate to have the game sitting idle but I guess I can wait till he comes back into town next week.
Are there any particular fuses I should pull out and check for this?
Thanks!
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Check F1, F2, F3 on the power supply board. Pull the fuse out or lift one side before checking.
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Also double check the value on the fuse is accurate while you have them out.

As others have said, be care checking the voltages since they will be around 100volts.

Set multimeter to DC.
place the black on the (black arrow) 3J2 pin 5
place red lead on the (red arrow) 3J2 pin 1 should read -100 volts DC
place red lead on the (yellow arrow) 3J2 pin 3 should read 100 volts DC
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Connector is lower left on power supply board. pin 1 on the right, pin 6 on the left.

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#1090 20 hours ago
Quoted from La4s:

Check F1, F2, F3 on the power supply board. Pull the fuse out or lift one side before checking.
[quoted image]
Also double check the value on the fuse is accurate while you have them out.
As others have said, be care checking the voltages since they will be around 100volts.
Set multimeter to DC.
place the black on the (black arrow) 3J2 pin 5
place red lead on the (red arrow) 3J2 pin 1 should read -100 volts DC
place red lead on the (yellow arrow) 3J2 pin 3 should read 100 volts DC
[quoted image]
Connector is lower left on power supply board. pin 1 on the right, pin 6 on the left.[quoted image]

Awesome thanks so much!!

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