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Black Hole Club... Members Only!

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10 years ago


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Post #1614 How to light up the tube Posted by Mudflaps (5 years ago)

Post #1618 Example photo for a lit tube Posted by Mudflaps (5 years ago)

Post #1628 Example photo for a lit tube Posted by gweempose (5 years ago)

Post #3035 Example for using Ice blue LEDs Posted by Crimcyan (9 months ago)

Post #3157 Adding a potentiometer to the aux lamp driver board for chase lights Posted by Redfive05 (6 months ago)


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#1061 7 years ago

Does anyone know what kind of bulb fixture was used in the middle pop cap in this video? It seems to have various light patterns displayed depending on game mode and when it is hit.

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#1069 7 years ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

Yes, there's a coil. I looked at it and I'll look again but I think it was maybe a 1466, can't really remember. Does anyone know what the correct coil would be?

Looks like A-1496.

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#1076 7 years ago

A-9393 (A9393W from PBResource)

The flippers use an A-13151 rubber, 3/8" wide x 1-1/2"

#1079 7 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Thx for replies. I have copy of manual. Where is the rubber rings listed. Did not see them listed

On one of the pages that shows the playfield layout. The rubbers are listed in Gottlieb's part number format, rather than in inches.

Here's the chart for part numbers to measurements:

http://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Gottlieb_System_80#Rubber_Ring_Chart

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#1098 7 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Just did not see them looking through coils on site

It's listed as part number GTB-A20095

http://www.pbresource.com/coilgtb.html

#1101 7 years ago
Quoted from japespin:

Hey guys, purchased a Black Hole about a month ago, but am just now getting to it. I put in a new Vreg, and a new Schewmmer sound board in there, but everything else is pretty much factory. When I boot the pin up, I get 000000 on all the displays so all looks good initially. Then, when I coin up and hit the start button, I get a flashing 0 on the Player 1 display, and a 1 on the Ball in Play display (which I assume is normal). However, no ball comes out of the trough, and the flippers are non-functional. Any idea what my troubleshooting path would be at this point? Driver board?

You might be better off starting your own troubleshooting thread. There could be a handful of possible causes, which may take a little bit of troubleshooting to suss out.

#1104 7 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Anyone have the link for the great planes bifurcated pins needed to replace on some of the edge connectors? The pin wikinlink has the discontinued ones. Thx

Unfortunately, they are no longer available from any supplier I've seen.

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#1119 7 years ago

Not a BH, but set up in basically the same way:

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#1120 7 years ago

Here's one from a BH:

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#1123 7 years ago
Quoted from sohchx:

Hey guys!! I finally picked up a really nice example of one of these and I have questions, if you don't mind? The machine is having issues and I can't get a game to start, with that being that this game is so problematic in stock form I honestly don't feel like fooling with it electronics wise because if I eventually do fix the issue I may just have more down the line and Id rather prevent that right from the jump. So, my factory boards are clean and hack free. Should I just send them all out to be refreshed, and if so who is the "go to" Gottlieb board guy here for Sys 80?? Or should I just go all Swemmer?

First, don't panic. Second, don't be so quick to throw money at problems--it's usually best to try to narrow down what the problem actually is first.

Does the game go into attract mode?

The game might not be set for free play. Can you add credits by pressing down the lever arm on the coin switches on the coin door?

#1125 7 years ago

There are two coils that are responsible for moving balls through the trough. One of them might not be firing.

Check the fuses under the playfield with a multimeter.

Take off the apron and make sure the lugs don't have cracked solder joints. Also make sure that the plungers move smoothly through the coils.

#1127 7 years ago
Quoted from sohchx:

Yesterday the very first thing that I did, I went through the entire machine and checked every fuse individually. I found one bad F21 which was for the right pop bumper I believe. I switched that out for new. If I could somehow I would like to post a video showing exactly what it is doing.

Feel free to upload a youtube video and paste the link.

Did you take off the apron and look at the coils and check the plunger movement?

#1144 7 years ago
Quoted from sohchx:

but I've been doing an acid treatment to them

Try using evaporust instead. It's much gentler on the parts and not caustic.

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#1226 7 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Thx. Where can I check voltages on that board

Do you have a manual? The board schematics and pinouts are listed.

#1236 7 years ago
Quoted from billsfanmd:

Traced wire to a BR where the label says 6v lamps. It tones for continuity.
Not sure what to do. Measured voltage at that lug. Getting Mv

You're touching the negative probe to ground while the positive probe is on the lug, right? What settings do you have your multimeter at? It should be set to DC when testing for the 6v.

Is the solder cracked on any of the lugs?

Next step, test the bridge rectifier: http://pinwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=General#Testing_a_Bridge_Rectifier

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#1300 6 years ago

The MPS-U45 was 2A. Seems odd to step down to a 1A component, rather than to something that is the same or greater.

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#1360 6 years ago
Quoted from futurepinhead:

I guess I can't post a gif, but it looks cool, take my word for it.

Change the image size to "original" before uploading the gif.

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#1395 6 years ago
Quoted from northvibe:

hat nail is stock? hahha...ok good. I thought it was some insane Operator hack.

Nope, it's used to help keep balls from getting stuck in certain areas.

3 months later
#1425 6 years ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

Gives you a ball save, the ability to hold start to reset a game. I think that’s it?

I almost think it also has a skill shot feature, like the System 1 replacement boards, but I couldn't find written confirmation.

I'd suggest sending an email to Pascal and asking about what additional features there are.

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