Wayland, MA
Hey guys, does anyone know if the logo-etched wide body glass available right now at pinball life will fit BH?
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Hey guys.
Picked up a project in progress.
Boots up but won’t start a game with the coin door button. It’s set to free play.
Does this pinout for a1-j5 look right? Looking at the manual it seems wrong. Return should be in position 1 and I don’t think it is.
My first sys 80...be gentle.
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:My thought as well. No true free play on OEM System 80 boards.
PO put a LISY board in. So it’s set to free play via the DIP switches.
Might be in over my head on this one.
Thanks for your help and questions...
Quoted from frenchmarky:So it goes into attract mode after power up?
Does coining up with the coin switches work?
I think it goes into attract mode successfully. Triggering the coin leaf switches has no effect on anything, whether i boot up in free play or not. I did ring out the wires from the start button back to the a1-j5 connector successfully, and the coin switches, so the wires and connectors seem to be ok.
Then will it start a game? If not, does the credit button register?
no to both of these.
Start diagnostic test with the inner door button, then press the credit button - that should advance the diag test display # to '16', showing that button is at least registering.
little red momentary push button has no effect.
It's almost like nothing on the coin door is making its way to the MPU, but the wires test successfully for continuity. I'm really scratching my head on this one. Maybe i'll post a video so you guys can confirm i'm not losing my mind.
Quoted from radial_head:Can't help ya there unfortunately although those LISY boards have quite the diagnostic back end, so you might have better luck posting in one of the LISY threads. I've never used one of those boards and have no idea how they affect the start sequence and coin-up/ect.
thanks...LISY threads are super quiet...maybe I just haven't found the right one yet 
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:I’m pretty good with OEM Gottlieb stuff. Inserting the aftermarket board pretty much takes me out of the game. The LISY board seems to have a very simplistic design. Maybe the kill switch on the door or playfield is still an issue. Have you tried to jumped them closed. OEM boards won’t start a game if those two switches are open.
What kill switch? say more!
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