Black Hole
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Hey guys! Just picked up a super nice BH, and I’m considering pulling the Mylar. There’s some minor bubbling I’m not happy with.
I’ve pulled Mylar before on F-14 (freeze method), but I wanted to know if anyone has pulled BH mylar and if there’s anything I need to be wary about. Should I be nervous about excessive paint getting pulled up? Thx
9E9CF789-352E-4286-8221-78600633602C (resized).jpegQuoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:Pulling Mylar is always challenging on old games. It comes down to personal preference I think. On an old game like your Black Hole I prefer the slow and very messy Goo Gone method. I feel it is less violent. I did a Caveman that way recently and didn’t have any issue with pulling paint.
Okay, thx. My primary concern is pulling up the paint.
Mylar removal done. Only took 5 minutes and about a can and a half of freeze spray.
No paint loss, which was my primary concern. Even the inserts survived totally intact. Some weird touchups by the pop bumpers, but I may clearcoat down the road.
Now the real work begins... removing the residual glue. That will take hours, but I’m happy about the results so far.
18FAB401-CA0E-4FCE-ABE8-EC6E8C0A6800 (resized).jpegimage (resized).jpgQuoted from Zitt:Did you replace the mylar? or are you planning on clear coating?
I'd be concerned with the paint in this area if you aren't doing either.
I removed the Mylar and clear coated in my Worklog:
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showpost.php?s=2f47687b63907db92dbd73b38ea1795b&p=1327848&postcount=7
Hey Zitt,
Thanks for the link. I was thinking the same thing, and I’ll likely clearcoat in the next couple of months. The Mylar didn’t pull up any paint, but I did lose some insert edges while removing the glue.
I’m not too concerned about wear, but I would like to touch up a few noticeable spots, especially under the pops. Once that’s done, I’ll clearcoat.
I just bought some of your buttons, too. Green for the start and blue for the flippers. Next project is lighting those up. 
Original BH displays for sale in the market:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/for-sale-system-80-displays-black-hole-haunted-house
**sale pending**
Added over 6 years ago:Sold
Installed the playfield protector. Had to remove the lower flippers, lane guides and middle pop bumpers. Nothing cosmic except the pain in the ass of resoldering the light sockets on the pop bumpers.
I had to trim the black hole entrance as well as add a hole for one of the lane guides. Turned out nicely.
0064B2CC-2DE3-4519-9008-F2BA7A6FAA05 (resized).jpeg15768C48-F2C2-4902-96A9-313C93071344 (resized).jpeg4758A374-0F3C-4B46-B7B6-EE011DF9A361 (resized).jpegE960C2BB-A49A-4885-8C9D-BEDBBB0A3D76 (resized).jpegQuoted from gweempose:I just joined the club a couple weeks ago. I've always loved this game and have been looking for a nice example off and on for years. What is the best way to light the tube? Ideally, I'd like the edges of it to glow when the gate is open.
Easy to do.
Tie in a 7 blue LED matrix strip from comet pinball to the gate light using alligator clips. Attach the strip to the underside of the tube.
When your gate is open, the yellow insert will trigger the blue LEDs, causing the whole tube to glow. It looks pretty neat.
8A4060E1-B778-4B5A-B55C-0B6A1E275053 (resized).jpegQuoted from gweempose:So I just took a look at the game, and this seems easier said than done. The tube is part of the lower playfield, and the gate insert is part of the upper playfield. If you mount the LEDs to the tube, wouldn't you need to run some very long wires all the way back along the harness and then up to the front of the upper playfield?
Also, I happen to have an LED strip on hand, so I wanted to experiment with hooking it up to the gate light. I must have shorted something, because I instantly blew the 10A fuse which took out all the controlled lamps and the backbox motor. Fortunately, I don't think I did any damage to the anything. I popped in a new fuse, and everything is once again working as it should. I'm a bit confused about how the lamp circuits work in this game. Do you have a photo of where you clipped on to? I honestly don't know what I did wrong.
I’ll snap more pics when I get home.
Sorry about the fuse. I haven’t had any issues.
I have a 3 SMD strip attached to the metal mounting bracket. There is enough wire to ensure slack when the playfield is down. The alligator clips are secured to the yellow gate insert.
6B94F391-8557-4457-A7C8-3DF2A5A5D559 (resized).jpeg6C091D11-DAC4-4B71-B59B-02FC23F88C02 (resized).jpeg8FF96FC3-FD04-4332-B526-A1A051425FB0 (resized).jpegQuoted from redmamanora:Would it be possible to post a pic of the SMD strip on the metal mounting bracket with it unlit as it is difficult to see the correct placement because of the glare. Thanks for taking the time to post the images.
I’m away from the game now, but the strip mounts on the metal bracket on the left side. The wires are on top and zip tied to the factory wires with enough slack to allow the playfield to close.
Quoted from robm:Am getting my playfield cleared, so will look at doing some other upgrades along the way. May do an order from Titan for rubbers - what colours have people used that works well?
I used clear rubbers and they look great.
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