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#2201 10 days ago
Quoted from Mad_Dog_Coin_Op:

I’m pretty good with OEM Gottlieb stuff. Inserting the aftermarket board pretty much takes me out of the game. The LISY board seems to have a very simplistic design. Maybe the kill switch on the door or playfield is still an issue. Have you tried to jumped them closed. OEM boards won’t start a game if those two switches are open.

What kill switch? say more!

#2202 10 days ago

I believe the LISY free play is not as you would intuitively think. You have to press and hold the start button for a few seconds. It's then supposed to add a credit then start a game, or something like that.
Its not just "free play" and go.

Jeff

#2203 10 days ago

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/diy-lisy-a-replacement-mpu-for-gottlieb-bally-amp-stern/page/10#post-6260869 is the active lisy thread.

They also have a dip switch to disable the slam switches which you should probably have on just in case.

The easiest way to debug this would be to get on the lisy wifi and then use its web switch test to make sure your switched all work

#2204 10 days ago
Quoted from Bospins:

What kill switch? say more!

On the coin door there is a slam switch. Gottlieb’s need to be closed while others do open. Jumper that closed and see if that helps.

#2205 9 days ago

thanks for the help guys. I've done all you've said already after reading the LISY docs, but have not yet set up the web based diag tool yet. i'll do that tonight and see if that provides any insight.

#2206 9 days ago

I am working on my sound board and want to make a backup of my ROMs before messing with it. I have a ROM burner and extra chips (have burned ROMs before) Does anyone know a procedure to get the data off the original ROMs? Or is there an easier way? Seems no downloads are available due to copyright.

#2207 8 days ago

Just for reference: in a recent post I made about the lower pf randomly "shutting down" mid-game. Adjusting the gap for the lower outhole and trough switches a bit wider indeed seems to have fixed it (they were apparently vibrating closed intermittenly, making the game think the ball had drained). I'm glad it was that simple after all!

#2208 7 days ago

Parts - For Sale
Used, good condition “For sale: BH lower playfield. Not sure of the history, but it’s in excellent shape. Someone cleared it... has a nice, glassy, surface. Not perfect, but excellent condition. A...”
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#2209 7 days ago

I'm driving from DC to Richmond, VA this afternoon... if anyone is interested in this playfield, could meet along the route.

#2210 4 days ago

As per the Pinwiki recommendation that the tube upkicker 6 & 1/4 fuse be changed to 2 & 1/2, I made that change a couple of weeks ago and today it blew. Though I do have a Williams coil in mine that by the coil windings is only slightly more powerful than the original Gtb one, I've never had any issue with the kicker before in 20 years. Have never even blown any fuse in the game before. So just a note that 2 1/2 might be borderline if using the original coil or little bit stronger one. On the copy of the schematics I downloaded, whoever had scribbled things on it here and there seemed like perhaps they had the same issue. Original '6 1/4' is crossed out and they wrote '2 1/2', then crossed that out and made it '5'. I've replaced the blown one with a 4 amp to split the difference. I didn't have any 3 amp fuses but maybe one of those would "make it".

Perhaps it is related to which under-pf driver transistor is installed. Gottlieb recommended changing 2N5875s to 2N5879s for early-run BHs but with no explanation. All three of my under pf transistors are MJ15016s and my serial number is within their range where it would have the 2N5875s. But I've never had to replace any of them and can't really find what the equivalency is between the 2Ns and the MJ.

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#2211 4 days ago
Quoted from 27dnast:

Parts - For Sale

FS: Black Hole Lower Playfield

Used, good condition “For sale: BH lower playfield. Not sure of the history, but it’s in excellent shape. Someone cleared it... has a nice, glassy, surface. Not perfect, but excellent condition.

A...”

210 (OBO)

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#2212 11 hours ago

Hey guys I recently picked up a BH and wanted some feedback on rubber colours. I’m thinking of either blue or black. Does anyone have pics of their BH’s with different colour rubbers? Thanks

#2213 2 hours ago
Quoted from Clintonian:

Hey guys I recently picked up a BH and wanted some feedback on rubber colours. I’m thinking of either blue or black. Does anyone have pics of their BH’s with different colour rubbers? Thanks

I would avoid doing any color rubbers. The orange ones that most people install looks cheesy as all get out, and there is already enough blue on the playfield to warrant blue rubbers. Black ones are great, but even black Titans still get the PF dirtier than it needs.

I highly recommend the clear Titan rubbers for this theme. They look great, help out with the general GI of the game (as they are slightly translucent) and then go crazy with your flipper rubber color as an accent.

Just my two cents from someone who has a BFA with a speciality in color science (albeit in light and not pigment but you get the gist).

#2214 2 hours ago

It was originally built with white rings made out of regular rubber so that's what I put on mine. I'm weird that way.

#2215 2 hours ago

Nothing weird about that at all. Currently that's what I have on my Black Hole because I'm waiting to get the rest of my PF parts in line before I do another re-shop of it now that I know what I'm doing.

#2216 1 hour ago

Having seen a lot of black holes, white or transparent look best imo

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