OK well I guess it is not happening tonight. Should have done it yesterday while more guys on.

Glass off.

Oh thank God i wasn't playing against you. We were in a different bracket.

Nope, glass on. Like I said before, rolling the game over was the main reason I had to convert it to 7 digit.

Steve

Dang if you do that on a regular basis you better just be in charge of running it so i can play.

As much fun as this will be, my BH just turned into a work bench for Hurdy gurdy, then i will have to pull it out from its spot to change it to 5 ball.. i just cant do that right now, but looking forward to seeing the results...

Blownfuse will win hands down, he constantly rolls that game over... LOL

He's a Black Hole shark..

Like I said before, or in one of the threads. I like three ball much better. Try it out. At least you will be able to enjoy multiball a little bit more. As the only difference is pop score change from 100 to 1000 and if you get 3 yellow spot targets down and lose ball you only need to get one more down to light the upper capture as completed spots are remembered. I find usually one out of four games you can achieve multiball. Even a little more often if you play 4 players at once.

When I was very young 5 ball on EM was more standard, but almost all electronic I had ever played were always set to 3 ball. So I just stick with what I am used to.

Waiting to here you rant about getting bonus multiplier up to x5 and never going into the hole. Or getting multiball started and not getting re entry gate opened. One of the worst is getting the both gforce lit and losing ball before going into the hole. Or the live catch attempt that throws your ball through the return gate and gone. Then there are multiple SDTM angles that really suck as you see it coming from a great distance away and usually no hope to save.

The list is really longer. Can't wait for the rant!

Make sure to use big towel at least on glass. I just recently put large scratch on new glass as I placed my portable soldering station "setup" made from magazine rack on the machine and it slid down the glass. Made large 8" or so scratch that is pretty deep. I will go out of my way now not to use as workbench.

Yeah I can remember a long time ago that once or twice the ball draining from right tube shot would swing all the way around and get back in play from the left side. Has not happened in a long time but was a pretty good wow moment when it happened. Also the rare ball screaming around and jumping over your flipper will get ya mad as hell.

haha yeah, mine does this about once every 500 times -- often enough to make me feel like a fool for standing there hoping for it to happen the other 499 times!

Done, before i started...

i always do that..

Just had a great game on my beloved BH 2.4Million on 3 ball setting and only a million of my high score. I keep my high score sheet in the game and as I was looking for it I found a hard drive I had stashed away for safe keeping that I thought I had lost

BH is the fastest game I have ever played. Mine seems to be getting faster with old age... or is it me getting slower?

Nice score, now i know another guy whom cheats or has loose legs and loose tilt.

From my memory F14 was a super fast machine. I have not played in forever but remember tuff even when younger.

Knew you would. Knowledge is a wonderful motivator. Pretty soon, we'll have to convert your game to 7 digit so I can put a score on it for you to shoot for. The first time you roll the score, you'll be sad that you didn't convert it sooner.

Steve

Great score, somehow, I missed your post (until now). If you convert your game to 7 digit scoring, you won't have to keep looking for that score sheet. Here's the conversion thread:

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/converting-any-system-80-6-digit-gottlieb-to-80a-7-digit

Step it up to the next level and play it in 5 ball mode.

Steve

HA, all I see there is 221,610, you are no threat to my high score. A prediction for mof ... I see a 7 digit conversion in your future.

Steve

haha i want one so bad but i'm both lazy and scared. my high score is pushing 2 million now on 5-ball.

It's really not that hard to do the conversion (you don't really need the displays ... but it looks better), it's more time consuming than anything else re-working the display connectors. And, a ROM needs to be burned (PM for more info). The bummer for this right now is that I just talked with Ed at GPE and he said he's out of the U2/3 modules at the moment and he's been real busy so he hasn't made more. I told him that when he gets them back it stock, I'm ordering 3. If others contact him and get in line, he may get on it sooner.

Steve

Would love to convert mine to 7-digit. I'll send Ed an email and let him know I'm interested in the EPROM adapter.

I just mentioned it in last order. Funny about a week ago he had em and i just dragged feet a little bit. Send me the parts Ed I'll put it together myself.

CNKay, i will pay ya to come do my conversion...

cause i am getting burned out, working on these shitboxes.. LOL

I would love to! I may not get much work done though as it seems you have a bunch of games that I have never played.

we can turn it into a multi weekend project.. LOL

There aren't many components on that adapter. Has anyone tried to make one with perf board?

No, Ed saw the need, spent the time and had the boards made. I would just rather support him a little than making something on proto board. Yeah, fairly easy to do but would likely take a few hours or more to solder and look well still like Sh$T in the end. I can wait.

To answer your question I am sure ED has.

Sorry, not trying to undercut Ed or his business in the slightest. Just thought it would be a fun evening project to put one together.

I knew what you meant. Fun, nope don't see it. Maybe goofing with blinky leds or adding sound calls but an adapter board for an IC. That would be self inflicted pain in the arse. I would not even want to do for solder practice. But maybe wire wrap practice? I take all that back, I am going to make one.

Had a bunch of adapters made up in December... sold the last one this past Monday. Since that time, I have been flooded with requests for these!
I'll be making more - hopefully this coming weekend. They're not terribly complicated but kind of a time consuming to build for such a small board -- solder one side, clean them, wait for them to dry - solder 2nd side, reclean them, wait for them to dry again and then stuff them. I have about 200 boards remaining if I remember right. I considered selling them as a kit but haven't had time to look into that, either (stinking day job!).

Thanks Ed, forgot you frequent this site. Didn't mean to overload you ... well, maybe a little.

Steve

Yep, here ya go.

tn[3].jpg

As far as tube thickness goes, my replacement tube is the same thickness as original, had to special order it. If you need a new tube, I have a few extras made up that I sometimes sell at PAGG. PM me if you're interested in one.

Never thought of putting a red LED there, didn't even come into my mind.

Steve

My best first ball ever!

can't tell you how many times that has happened to me! when i'm by myself i tend to play 4-player games so i can steal the lower playfield lock from myself ... so many times player 3 (or whoever) will have a 5000 point first ball only to put it all together at the end and lap the field.

I had the first two balls locked when I handed my buddy my phone and told him to start recording.
I thought for sure I'd choke. I obtain multiball once in about 20 games or so.
I won an extra ball and was so pumped from having just played miltiball that I forgot and my buddy played thinking it was his turned. He promptly drained and then of course I saw he had just played my ball.
Oh well! I didn't want to score over 999,999 anyways since I'd have nothing to show for it if I did.

That was alot of fun to watch... very cool !

I replaced the grommets on mine to level it. The old ones had deteriorated before I got it, causing the acrylic window to be recessed. Not sure if there is a trick other than to go slow with the allen wrench and adjust slightly as needed. I did read somewhere that you basically can't get it perfect, so don't try. You can get it very close, but not perfect. Keep the upper edge slightly below the playfield and the lower edge slightly above, so the ball rolls naturally on the down slope. Mine plays much more naturally now that the ball does not "detour" along the window edge.

M very excited about getting my new black hole back after undergoing a major overhaul/ playfield resto. I saw it the other day and it looks gorgeous.

(BHTFT) Black Hole tip for today: I was just telling mof last night that I went to replace the foam grommets (a couple of days ago) on the Black Hole and a Spirit I have in the shop/gameroom. I thought I had bought a bunch of them from The Pinball Resource a while back but I couldn't for the life of me find them anywhere. So ... I improvised and used some black "small mini post rubber" instead figuring I could replace them later if the rubber didn't work or hold up. I was surprised as to how well they worked at leveling out the plastic. I liked using them so much for leveling the plastic that I'm never going to use the foam grommets again. I'm sure that if someone else tries it, they'd say the same thing

Steve

Well I know that it is much easier to level and stay leveled if the Tnuts are installed very tight, maybe even anchored with another screw. I tiny amount of loc tight for the window screws wouldn't hurt either.

I always though it would have been better if they did not use mounting holes from top at all and just had a thicker piece lying atop of adjustment bolts. Maybe a locking slot from underside.

I used some small rubber washers that I had on hand and they worked out perfectly.

The rubber crushed down real easy. Because it was more stiff than the foam, I was able to get the plastic/playfield adjustment real close to perfect and the screws are flush to the plastic.

Steve

OK - another batch has been made. Most have been claimed but still have five remaining and posted them to my website.

Ed