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Billy Mitchell Scores 1 Mil Live !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By Blake

5 years ago


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#1 5 years ago

Thank Prok for the post - For those that didn't know, Billy Mitchell has been getting back in practicing shape playing a lot of Donkey Kong and tonight he hit 1 million points live on stream at the Glitch bar in Ft Lauderdale. 100% legit cabinet.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/290847896

https://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?p=3842808#post3842808

real shit.

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Blake

#4 5 years ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

Haters? Or people that found out he intentionally cheated using mame?
Glad hes doing well but he deserves the scorn

If we are going by facts alone then your statement is false. TG's original statement that he used mame was disproven and now shows this. It was not mame as the version they so emphatically said it was came out nearly 3 years after he issued the recordings. there is a very good video of his seminar at the SFGC where he breaksdown the whole timeline and shows all communication TG had with him or his affiliates concerning his records. TG went back and forth on a witch hunt and stumbled there way to removing his records.

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Blake

#7 5 years ago
Quoted from delt31:

Wait so this guy didn't really cheat? Sorry haven't been following. If not feel bad bc many like me just heard the original story... Don't recall the flip that it was disproven

Billy maintains that he never cheated and all his scores are legit. TG still believes he cheated, just that they dont know how or on what media platform he cheated on. There words not mine. There original statements have been proven false regarding the Mame.Dev version he supposedly used.

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#8 5 years ago

I have a feeling he is going to keep this ball rolling and at some point in the near future show a WORLD RECORD live video recorded in a public place score right down the publics throat saying to himself "Choke on that". What a great day that would be.

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Blake

#11 5 years ago
Quoted from delt31:

Wait so this guy didn't really cheat? Sorry haven't been following. If not feel bad bc many like me just heard the original story... Don't recall the flip that it was disproven

Oh i almost forgot an important detail. During there "investigation" TG was given a list of people dealt with as well as paperwork documents (dates and locations) and receipts ($ for pcb purchases and services rendered by non other than NINTENDO themselves) to show how authentic his boards were during these record attempts in a live public setting and yet TG wont consider the evidence and continues to keep there head in the sand.

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Blake

#12 5 years ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

He tells an x files level conspiracy theory of his innocence claiming that the new owners of twin galaxies wanted him taken down.
His scores are still gone, he wont answer questions, he just grandstands.
The panel unanimously found that his tape had screens that could not be created with original hardware. They still believe he cheated.
Odds are they are right.

i like the X-Files reference but thats about it in this paragraph. If you watched the whole thing (or were there in person) he had a stack of documents (his evidence) that he brought to the show for anyone and everyone to look at with there own two eyes. The curators of the show cut it short as he was basically pleading them to allow the public spectators to have time to ask any and all questions.

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Blake

#14 5 years ago

Bottom line is he's coming for his record. Wes Copeland and Robbie Lakemen better get there shit together.

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Blake

Quoted from Outlanes:

Or they had to end it because he started talking about pornography and pedophilia. You know, like the guy on king of kong that has Mitchells back but served time in florida for some awful stuff.
Mitchell said he was framed too...

So did he or did he not have everything available for anyone and everyone to look at? Did he or did he not plead to have more time for the public to ask more questions at the end of his seminar? Did he or did he not have a booth available for the public to come over and speak to him during the SFGC show? If you can answer "he did not" to any of those questions then we watched or went to two different shows. This idea that he is not answering questions is bogus.

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Blake

#17 5 years ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

He was in there for an HOUR without taking a single question. When you bring up the topics at the end he did, it's either deliberately to end the talk or you force the moderators to do it for you so you can still be the victim.
What hes saying doesn't match what hes doing.
We probably landed on the moon, 9/11 probably wasnt an inside job and Mitchell probably cheated. The cult of Mitchell astounds me.
If he does come and legitimately break the record, that's awesome. More publicity and a bit of redemption.

Not answering is a defense. its not a good one but its a defense.

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Blake

#18 5 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Your fanboy is showing. I don’t know your relation to this record attempt, but it’s pretty obvious how you feel about someone else succeeding. Do you have a wager invested in the outcome? Just curious why your so enthused about this.
So, if he scored 1mil live, how much further does he need to go to reclaim his title?

I dont know Billy Mitchell personally nor am i the type to wager on someone elses accomplishments (unless its horse racing at Saratoga once a year for a couple bucks). Im enthused because he is a great personality for the industry, and it would be another great comeback story. In reality the record 1,247,700 currently held by Robbie Lakeman is a long ways away though just on points looks close.

Some people get pumped up by certain personalities some dont. im not the shy quiet type so when i watch a 3 min youtube clip of Billy Mitchell one liners it reminds me of Rodney Dangerfield and i cant help but get pumped up and laugh my ass off. Its great IMHO.

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Blake

#20 5 years ago
Quoted from Phat_Jay:

Love him or hate him, but when Mitchell gets a bug up his ass to accomplish something....he usually does it. That’s how he got the kill screen on pac man. I expect we’ll see him break the dk record live in the next five yrs. did he cheat or not? I don’t know, I wasn’t there. That’s between him and God at this point as we may never know. The next one will be live and legit, I’m sure of that.

Common sense right here folks. Get your fill.
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Blake

#22 5 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

Isn't he known for being a massive jerk? Wasn't that one of the reasons he received so much blowback from the alleged cheating? Pretty hard to root for a guy like that IMHO.

actually this is a resounding "NO!!!". Even the people who dislike him have to admit that hes nothing if not super polite and outgoing.

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Blake

#27 5 years ago
Quoted from MinusWorlds:

Good to know, thank you for clarifying.

no problem.

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Blake

#28 5 years ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

I've met him several times and don't share your opinion.
I don't dislike him, in fact I found him to be quite funny, but hes not the father Christmas you describe and worship.

Ill take my prayers elsewhere but as for being a nice guy, yeah hes a nice guy.

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Blake

#30 5 years ago
Quoted from maglar:

Meh, its not pinball.

NEXT STERN OFFER :

KING OF KONG 2
THE CHRONICLES OF MITCHELL
COMING TO AN ARCADE NEAR YOU

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Blake

#33 5 years ago
Quoted from Perspex:

I think this all started with the Todd Rogers Atari Dragster WR proving to be impossible (using computer controlled inputs, and perfect start moments). Naturally the Billy Mitchell tape would prove to be another project for YT sleuths.
The tape has screens that load more like a mame screen loads, and contained artifacts ('girder tails') that apparently only show up when running mame hardware. There is discussion about what versions of mame existed then, and how the differences may be noticed on screen.
I really hope with this live million point game that he can begin to rebuild some of that lost reputation, at least with some people in that community. He's a nice guy and I consider myself a fan despite what he might've done with that tape.

The people that are continuing to hate on him now, even after his 1 mil live performance are the same people that were hating on him before TG stripped him of his scores. Head over to KLOV, thats the haters headquarters. I too hope it will change some folks opinion of him but these folks are really stubborn and set in there ways. If he stole there lime light 25 years ago they will hate him till the day they die.

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Blake

#36 5 years ago
Quoted from Outlanes:

Stubborn and set in their ways cuts both ways my friend.
You keep calling people haters, but the evidence says he cheated. That doesn't mean he can never post a high score or he will never do anything legitimate.
I don't think anyone thought mitchell wasnt really good at playing arcade games. No one is hating, they are pointing out the evidence.

like i said. head over to klov and tell me there isnt pure hatred for the guy. The evidence you speak of is slowly eroding. TG is becoming less and less trustworthy and there has been loads of documented evidence available to the public (if you look you will find it) to support Billy Mitchells records as valid. If you cant see that then you dont want the truth. It is anything but clear.

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Blake

#37 5 years ago
Quoted from tamoore:

Banned for life.

all the sweeter when he keeps popping up at expos, charities, world record events, arcade openings, news venues, youtube vids, exc. exc. exc.

Keep hatin son. Its payin the bills.

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Blake

#39 5 years ago
Quoted from tamoore:

I don't hate him because he's a cheater.
I hate him because he's a douchebag.
I couldn't care that he's good at something or not.

Im sure hes happy to have you hate.

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Blake

#44 5 years ago
Quoted from hailrazer:

It's a persona. Same as an actor who always plays the bad guy. Do you hate them also?

this guy gets it. But the thing is these folks wont ever get it. Its like trying to explain salesmanship to someone who has never had to speak to a stranger. Or showmanship to someone who has never had to please an audience. Its foreign to them and stands out in a negative way. Now to anyone thats talked for a living (like an actor) they know what hes doing. And then when you talk with him or see him associating with people in person he is a down to earth guy thats willing to listen to your questions, or if you want tell you his stories.

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Blake

#45 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

There arn't many groups that pinball people are like "Those dudes are f-ing weird;" but the videa game grew might just be one.

hate to tell you bud but i dont think ive been to many pinhead homes that did'nt own arcades. they might not tell some of these self pretentious pinsiders, probably in fear of not being able to keep up on there intellectual level.

also you can chew on the fact that almost all of your industry leaders are fans of Arcade machines and have worked on, designed, played and own them. They must be wierd too right.

Ask the vid folks if buying a 5-8 k $ pinball is wierd, crazy or just plan stupid and see what you get.

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Blake

#48 5 years ago
Quoted from JodyG:Blake, are you and Billy dating or something?

this question was asked over on KLOV and ill reply the same:

LOL! Not yet i still have to pass it by the wife.

and for the follow up:

would you care to join us? I really like your avatar.

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Blake

#49 5 years ago

the last guy got all homophobic when i made that reply so hopefully you respond a little different.

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Blake

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#53 5 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

I'm not your fucking Buddy, Guy.
But the rest of your weird ass post sounded weird. Weird right?

By the lack of substance in your counter ill give you more time to think of a proper comeback. Sound good slick?

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Blake

#54 5 years ago
Quoted from tamoore:

I've occasionally seen actors who play douchebags on TV not be a douchebag in real life.

whens the last time you have heard anyone say they bumped into Billy Mitchell and he was a jerk? 99 % of the time i think people are pleasantly surprised at how cool he is.

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Blake

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#59 5 years ago
Quoted from BrewersArcade:

I attended a couple of the Kong Offs and watched Billy play and he has never broken 1 mil in public at any of those events and got blown away by the competition. He's VERY good but not on the same level as some of the latest DK players. I think Bill is a pretty nice guy in person and it isn't anything against him personally, but TG was pretty thorough in their investigation and its pretty obvious that he cheated.

At those kong offs he did not perform very well, agreed. I also dont think he spent much time honing his skills. but even if he did he may not be on the level of Wes, Robbie, Hank, exc... we will hopefully have more chances to see.

As for the evidence i too thought it was thorough at first glance, but watch Billys seminar at SFGC and then make up a timeline of the events that he speaks of and you will see where TG has changed there stance multiple times and currently has no stance other then the fact that he cheated, the end. When you have a company that is emotionally vested in one outcome the lone wolf is not going to win. Honestly check out the documents, names of witnesses, receipts, video all of that evidence is not being brought forward because its from Billy. If it was a trial where you could present evidence people would have a different opinion of what they consider the truth. Right now you just have a dozen of more news articles saying the same molded media garbage over and over.

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Blake

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#65 5 years ago
Quoted from BrewersArcade:

The only "witnesses" are close friends (Walter Day etc.) and odd fellows such as yourself. No one witnessed him play a perfect game of Pac Man yet he holds the title for it. No one has seen him score 1 million + live at any live event.

Watch his seminar and then do some research. If there is anyone not being transparent in this debacle its TG. If after that you still feel steadfast that he cheated and TG is on the up and up then theres nothing else to say.

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Blake

#66 5 years ago
Quoted from gliebig:

People actually give a fock about a guy playing donkey kong.??? hmmm. Crazy.
Blake: "Billy, do you accept this rose?"

You cared enough to read the thread and reply to a post. What the FOCK?

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Blake

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#67 5 years ago

To all you pinsiders who cant wrap their heads around the fact that people actually care about this crap, THANKS FOR MAKING THIS TOPIC THE HOTTEST THREAD OF THE DAY LMFAO!

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Blake

#70 5 years ago
Quoted from BrewersArcade:

No one cares about this crap, we are just enamored over your hard on for Billy Mitchell.
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Blake

You started off with some logic and then just went to "billy's a cheater" you have no desire to seek out the truth but are ready and willing to jump on a band wagon of haters. Every time one of you folks is confronted with logic you retract to the same BS. Spend some time debating it would serve you well.

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Blake

#71 5 years ago
Quoted from gliebig:

Those are the lamest responses. Always drives me crazy when people think this is witty.
Btw, wonder who has the most holes in one on NGG? I want to worship him.

Contribute.

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Blake

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#74 5 years ago
Quoted from notaflyingtoy:

This. Everything else is just smoke and mirrors and irrelevant to this fact.
BM has had years to "get in shape" playing DK. Finally breaking a mill in late 2018 is yawn inducing. The mancrush of some is only slightly more amusing. Thread drained.
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NotBlake

There you go. That was much more creative then the last few. Still lacking in substance but we can work on that latter.
Your right on one thing for sure, your not Blake, but that should not stop you from trying.

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Blake

#75 5 years ago
Quoted from gliebig:

No thanks.
You're weird.

and another post in the thread topic. thanks for contributing. for someone who hates these types your certainly helping out.

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Blake

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#116 5 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

Ya, I’m amazed by billy’s Supporters; The burden of proof is on Billy not twin galaxies
Twin galaxies’ only requirement here is to prove that the record was not done on original hardware. -they have.
Twin galaxies has no responsibility to display how he did it. -although they put forth a good theory.
Billy has yet to prove that he can beat the record on original hardware.

Board bought by reputable dealer (receipts shown)
Board delivered to arcade op not billy (tracking numbers confirmed)
Board installed in DK cab at retail store location and cabinet locked (documented in writing by arcade op/confirmed by store owner)
Whole unit authenticated and inspected by event promoters day before record being set
Billy sets record in live setting on real DK hardware with onlookers
Boards sent to Nintendo for verification (2x) and sent back with receipts
End of story

Say what you want but there is at least one true documented DK record set on Billy Mitchell's behalf. If TG doesn't want to look at the evidence to substantiate that's there choice. But it has been presented to them. Along with a video which they admitted to having in there possession and then losing.

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#118 5 years ago
Quoted from tamoore:

[quoted image]

thats creative.

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#122 5 years ago
Quoted from CNKay:

I don't get what Billy is trying to accomplish?
The damage is done, the history was made, and that will unfortunately be what folks remember. Yeah he was good but he cheated, got caught and records removed, its GAME OVER.

This clip just comes to mind.

Lets say you had maybe 10% of your lively hood associated with this character that you portray or actually are. And maybe you were a little worried about losing that as a result of you being labeled as a cheater. And what if after looking at things you think that the easiest way to get back or secure that 10% is to show the world you are good enough to get the record they showed you cheated to get. Would you play some DK for a few months. 10% is different for everyone. Just a different perspective.

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#127 5 years ago
Quoted from CNKay:

Well if the promotors are anything like the pinball guys that where clueless about the whole Jpop scam, I'd think he has nothing to worry about.
Now picture a dad at a video game conversation, his little kid pulling on his hand and pointing at the guy in the white suit and American tie, daddy who's that?
What do you tell your son.

ive got a 6 year old boy that when asked who he is and what he has done can tell you pretty quickly. When you play, own, fix, or run a business containing arcade/pinball machines its pretty likely that at some point the little guy or girl is going to get competitive and start trying to beat there previous best score. If they turn out to be pretty good at the game and continue to excel the next logical step is to want to know who the best is.
No need to give anymore information to the kids than can be received. Easy enough to keep all the BS out and avoid the dirty details that may be good lessons to teach or expand on at a more mature time. Just my approach but im the last father to go up to another and tell them how to raise there kids.

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#132 5 years ago
Quoted from gliebig:

Blake would just say, "Honey, that's daddy's mancrush".

LOL.

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Blake

#136 5 years ago
Quoted from Sonny_Jim:

No problem. Here's the thing, Twin Galaxies took literally *months* to come to their decision because they wanted to cover every single angle as they knew how much of a slippery customer Billy and his fanboys can be. Speaking of which:

Can you please explain how this has any bearing whatsoever on the evidence he submitted for his 1M+ scores that was proven to be falsified? The board could have been sent by God himself, installed by Jesus and credited up by the Pope, but it makes sod all difference to the fact he submitted videos of footage that could not have come from an arcade machine.

If you find that information irrelevant in all aspects then i cant help you. I for one am not putting my eggs in the basket of someone (TG) who only shows you there side of the story. But the world needs suckers and next time someone takes advantage of you with a good sales pitch im sure someone like me will be there to pat you on the back and tell you "It's not your fault. Those type of people do it for a living.".

Now open the flood gates for those about to tell me how Billy Mitchell is swindling me : - )

AND GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

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#138 5 years ago
Quoted from Sonny_Jim:

Two points:
1. Billy was given ample opportunity to come forward and defend himself and he didn't. You have to ask yourself why is that?
2. What other side of the story is there? In all honesty, what single piece of information or evidence could Billy provide at this point which would disprove he sent illegitimate videos to TG in order to take back a world record?

Oh my word. So close to self awareness. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but if my child pointed at Billy Mitchell and asked 'Who's that?' I'd say:
'That's a dirty cheater, son. He lies as well. Don't be like Billy'

You kinda softened up a little bit there in your rebuttal. I don't believe that's all you would point out to your son because if we didn't search for the good in people there would be very little to praise or look up to period. I've never met anyone honest that did not have faults or flaws in there character. I understand what you mean though and i hope for our children's sake you understand my point.

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#140 5 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

I've spent about 30 seconds looking into this, but it seems to me that Billy Mitchell himself admits that at least one tape he submitted to TG now shows clear indicia that it wasn't recorded on original equipment. This leaves a couple of possible arguments:
1) The original tape would have showed that Billy was using original equipment, but was intentionally tampered with after he submitted it to make it appear he was cheating. (Billy seems to have argued this at times, from what little I've read it sounds extremely unlikely, but then again OJ got off so maybe it creates a "reasonable doubt" for some fans)
2) The recorded performance wasn't on original equipment but it's not Billy's fault, because he bought the machine from a reputable source that vouched for it. I assume that's what all the emails and receipts are meant to show? Sort of a Barry Bonds "my shady trainer slipped those steroids into my shaving cream" defense.
3) Billy knowingly used non-original equipment in the recorded performance, but shouldn't have his other scores scrapped just because he was caught breaking the rules once.
Blake, which of these arguments do you find convincing? Or did I miss one?

i think you should spend more then 30 sec if you care too.

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#143 5 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

Why don't you get me started by telling me which defense you subscribe to?

you need to work on your bait a bit. a lot of folks here have got you beat. but there is a whole bunch of folks that are good at riding coat tails, maybe give that a shot. not everyone is meant to lead.

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Blake

#145 5 years ago
Quoted from Frippertron:

This perfectly illustrates everything wrong in this country in terms of how people are judged. Some guy gets a stupid drug charge in 1978 at 18 years old and that stays with him FOREVER. Can't get certain jobs , etc even though you paid the penalty for the crime. Why do things keep following you around. If Billy made mistakes, he has been punished, as long as he abides by the rules now he shouldn't get anymore shit. Put an asterisk on his name if you like but all you guys act like you never messed up before. I guess if you never got caught it doesn't count, right

Oh plenty of them got caught lol. Im not getting the sense that we are dealing with many smooth operators here. They dont have the balls to admit they are like everyone else. Easy to place yourself on a pedestal. Its another thing to be held in that regard by others.

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#148 5 years ago
Quoted from Frippertron:

This is what I'm talking about. You sound like a child. I'm not trying to be a jerk but guess what players on your favorite sports teams cheat all the time, they just try not to get caught. Baseball was best when they were all juicing anyway.

remember the Mcguire/Sosa back and forth HR season (cant remember what year maybe 2001?) And Sosa cracked the corked bat in game. Then Barry just obliterates the previous HR record a year or so later. Felt like he was hitting 3 a night. That was a bad ass couple years for the MLB and i dont even like Baseball.

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#149 5 years ago
Quoted from Blake:

Board bought by reputable dealer (receipts shown)
Board delivered to arcade op not billy (tracking numbers confirmed)
Board installed in DK cab at retail store location and cabinet locked (documented in writing by arcade op/confirmed by store owner)
Whole unit authenticated and inspected by event promoters day before record being set
Billy sets record in live setting on real DK hardware with onlookers
Boards sent to Nintendo for verification (2x) and sent back with receipts
End of story
Say what you want but there is at least one true documented DK record set on Billy Mitchell's behalf. If TG doesn't want to look at the evidence to substantiate that's there choice. But it has been presented to them. Along with a video which they admitted to having in there possession and then losing.
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Blake

Just noticed the haters really piling on at this post. Keep them (-1) coming. Shows your weakness for others opinions and how much they mean to you.

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#152 5 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

I don't care what he does, did, or didn't do. I just wish at a show like Expo, he wouldn't hog the only Pac Man game for hours until it locks up, when kids or people wanting to try/buy it. Can't get at it.
He could do that at an arcade show, or bring his own game.
LTG : )

sounds like a dick move. Maybe demonstrating pattern play to interested spectators?

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#153 5 years ago
Quoted from fosaisu:

In what way am I trying to "bait" you into anything? I don't really care about Billy Mitchell or Donkey Kong scores, it's true, but I've found this thread to be interesting and entertaining. But how can we have a meaningful discussion if you won't tell me what you think actually happened?

read through the posts. You will know what i think.

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#160 5 years ago
Quoted from tamoore:

He's great at video games. He's good at cheating. He's really good at cheating at video games. He's not great at making hot sauce.

i think the hot sauce comment hurts more then anything. Really though i have not tried it but have heard a general consensus that its bland?

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