Thats right why the hell would he play the bad guy in a movie. It's not like they were $$$PAYING$$$ him or anything..........

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I love how they ask a question, I give an answer.........Crickets.

You respond to the question with the same answer........Discussion.

Am I missing something here???
Did someone write ASS HAT on the back of my avatar?

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My reputation is worth more that what some half assed documentary would pay for my time.

That's what my impression has been and I'm trying to understand if that is incorrect. Like if it is really a documentary and he decided to be a dick in this documentary, then he his playing a dick in real life which is fundamentally being a dick. This film how the vast majority of people know him. Maybe he didn't realize this would become so well known, but it seems likely his hope was that it would and he would become more famous. But, he would be famous for being an asshole.

To put it in a pro wrestling analogy, you can play a bad guy in pro wrestling and everyone will know you as such. And you can get rich like that. But, that is entirely scripted everyone knows the deal up front and it is just acting. You can be a good guy outside of the show, but an asshole on the show and that's fine. It seems like Billy wanted to be a wrestling bad guy but his world isn't scripted. So he is sometimes a dick in real life to build this character, but doing it in real life, which makes him a real life dick right?

Adam you want to take this one?

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I find it interesting that people say the Kong documentary was edited to make Billy look like a jerk. Yet he appeared on a Game Informer podcast i want to say about a year ago and he acted like the same jerk i saw in the documentary.

WTF dude that's a little much. I've had the hot sauce and it's like not the worst thing out there.

Ok, so that kinda comes back to my question of how scripted it was. Did Steve, Walter Day, and other main characters whose names I don't know off the top of my head, know going in or even before it happened what Billy was going to do and say? Was it decided amongst them that he was going to play the bad guy for this movie? Or were they mostly playing it straight and Billy and probably the director decided to have him be a dick for the drama?

He's on Twitter

I do find this discussion more interesting than another Elvira themed pinball machine, no doubt about that.

So basically Billy Mitchell plays a dick publicly and willingly portrays that persona to further his brand. That's totally fine and not at all a new thing. But in doing so it seems pointless to argue his is a good guy if you meet him. That isn't the image he has chosen and it is expected and wanted that most people will think he is a dick. With that comes the fact that when accused of cheating, most of those people who think he is a dick will have no problem believing he cheated. That might not be fair, but he brought that on himself.

Now if there is proof that he cheated on any of his records, it is totally justified and correct to remove all his records. I don't know nearly enough about DK to know if he did, but given both his persona and his relationship with the guy who had the drag race record and was proven to have cheated I find it easy to believe he did. Let's be honest, if your public persona is being the bad guy, cheating a high score plays right into that.

Wait, being accused of cheating disqualifies one for life?

I could name some pro sports players who would have had rather shortened careers in that case...

I don't see a legal basis to require Twin Galaxies to add Billy back into their listings. Billy's letter says that if they don't add him back in, he'll sue them for defamation. No idea if he's got a legal claim against Twin Galaxies. So far as I can tell, their statement was just that they caught him cheating at DK once. Unless he can prove that they knew or should have known he wasn't cheating but said it anyway, he's probably hosed. From a quick skim through his amateur evidence package (note to self, always start legal brief with booth girl pics), I don't see that happening.

Billy might have a claim against Guinness for implying that his unchallenged records "NEVER WERE," though their wording is careful and vague enough that they're probably OK. But even if he won that lawsuit, he's not going to get a court order requiring Guinness to identify him as the record holder going forward.

I understand Billy's overall beef -- by all accounts he legitimately set a bunch of records, and it seems a little weird to say that some other guy was the first person to "beat" Pacman when there's no reason to think that particular score was a cheat. But Twin Galaxies gets to set their own policies, and if it's "one strike and we erase you from history entirely" then so be it. And Guinness can rely on whatever sources they want to prove up the "world records" they chose to publish, even if that means they ignore a bunch of seemingly legit records in the process.

Pete Rose.

The Chicago White Sox team from 1919.

LTG : )

Say it aint so, Joe.

I have a feeling although Pete Rose is banned for life, there will be a new movement to get him in after he dies.

So he's a cheater in the videogame world and a gentleman and nice guy in the real world?

That's quite the paradox.

I choose to ignore the rest of this thread due to my love of King of Kong. lol

And 3lvira is coming out ! That's a para...d or x.

Well Twin Galaxies would say Billy wasn't just accused of cheating, he was found to have cheated following whatever their protocols are. At which point they not only DQ'd him for life, they scrubbed his old stats from the record books. Which seems extreme to me if some of those older scores are known to be valid, but hey, it's their record book so they can do whatever they want with it.

As mentioned, that's a big "whoopy do!", from where I'm standing.

Critical question: is it "whoopy do" or "whoop-dee-do"?

I just want to know where I can get the necessary training to get paid to be a "Donkey Kong Expert".
Perhaps there is a short course available on line that would provide the skill required.
Maybe you just have to reach a certain skill level proven by some level of high scores.
I wonder how much that expert job pays?

I was trying to figure that out, but auto incorrect decided that for me.

Well, Apple knows best.

I am presently on Windows which is slightly different. This is why my post count seems to be so high. I'm always having to go back and correct what either company thinks is best. Rarely do either help.

Most/all of Billy's defense is based on a record attempt video. Billy claims that King of Kong faked a scene and misused the score attempt video that was never before seen, in an attempt to create drama.

Take a look at the video I posted in post #41 of this thread. The record attempt video of that "fake KOK scene" that was, according to Billy, just shown and misused in KOK was actually on MTV news 2 years prior. His whole case is about this being a KOK attack. He had been using and bragging about that score for years.

Case closed.

Pete Rose gambled on baseball while he was a manager, and more than likely while he was playing as well. But I don't think that necessarily makes him a cheater, especially if you are looking at his playing accomplishments. That being said, he has no business being in the Baseball Hall of Fame. He knew full good and well that he was playing with fire and what the consequences would be if he got caught.

That story is getting shadier by the minute. So Pineiro started claiming that his signature was forged and that he did not write the new endorsement letter.
Later he claims that he signed an incomplete letter without seeing the final version and did not know the exact content.

I find the latter to be absurd given the role he played in debunking the fake high scores and his obvious tendency to be thorough in what he does. And I find the forged letter to be too far fetched too.

So now more lawyers are involved. It’s really time to take the popcorn out and see what comes next.

Lol, look at the subforum this thread is in.

Yes. Billy is hilarious and VERY nice. There is Billy Mitchell the man and then Billy Mitchell the character. The character is a crass asshole. The man is a nice guy that one would like to have a beer with.

That's always been my suspicion.

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hot sauce essentials

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I am retracting the above post.

If it pays about $100 per hour, I might consider it.
However, I think there will be a rather small customer base, so I might have to reconsider and keep my day job.

I hope so, I dont want to be the only one...

So wait....if that's true what about pro wrestlers? Are the bad guys actually good guys in real life?

I'm confused....

Hulk Hogan was once a bad guy in the wrestling world. I met Billy at an event once and he was nice to me. We talked for awhile and I honestly didn't even know who he was. He just seemed like a different kind of dude so I started talking to him.

You can write your own ticket.

Pete Rose was an exceptional player, he is being denied BHOF out of spite.

Banning him for gambling is one thing, he earned being in the hall of fame for his playing.

As said, he is banned for life.

When he dies that opens a whole new can of worms.

Banned for afterlife.

Is there a Gambling HOF? Seems like he'd be a shoe-in for that at least.

Apparently that's what happened to Shoeless Joe Jackson. Even though he was initially only banned for life.

Tough league.

Andre would be a nice guy in real afterlife at this point. RIP.

Does he have a good haircut in real life?

Don't be confused. Was 'King of Kong' scripted? That's the only difference really. Or did I just ruin professional wrestling for you?

Too bad he just didn't inject steroids or was a wife beater, he'd be in for sure then.