Some scandals are regional. Alabama players keep coming to Atlanta and winning our IFPA tournaments. Scandalous!

Someone made a tee shirt of Tim @ the PHOF about his double facedness and stealing parts off of machines that are not his.... These shirts were sold/given away at expo...ive seen one myself..

It says "i pulled a fast one, presto switcho" and "Tim Arnolds SWITCHEROO its a steal"

Wow, that's low... the switcheroo that is.

I'd say that price of MM has always been controversial, but BBB prices have been downright scandalous. $30k for NIB BBB, no thanks.

Proposed additions:
1. Alleged International (non-US) orders to Mad Amusements
2. Alleged CCC use of materials w/o permission
3. Alleged DP sale of The Matrix machines
4. Standard Woz games shipped *before* the Emerald games were finished

How should people determine 'the biggest'?

A. Most total money absconded?
Bumper Amusements would be near the top

B. Most people screwed?
Coin-mech gate / Standards made covers - over 1,000 pre-orders
Ruby Red - slap-in-the-face to the Emerald owners - over 600 Emerald pre-orders?

C. Most distasteful
If proved, Vonnie D, or Mad Amusement allegidly taking money w/o intent to deliver

D. Biggest financial hit per a single machine not delivered?
Could be magic girl?

E. Biggest Intellectual Property Rights violation?
most units pre-sold w/o permissions
or use of property in their adversting w/o permission

F. Biggest fine/remedy issued by a court for the use of a non-licensed property?

The game isn't even that good.

The GRC guy coming on here and making an ass of himself along with all the stupid TNT bashing.

either that or the bragging about how he sold that one game for 3-4X average price. don't remember the game.

It was a Rocky for like $13k. He posted a really tasteless video bragging and basically making the buyer look like a fool.

Now now there - what did you sell your BBB for?

What about the Punk! scandal with the swapped pf and the old square toe?

I believe it didn't actually come down to 13K to be fair to GRC.

The Pinside who used to make toppers
If you ordered one and you lived in the USA, yougot it
If you lived outside the USA , you got nothing

Well no one knows what it actually went for. $13k was the advertised price...but even if they came down to $8k that's still a hell of a lot of money for a rocky.

It's as valuable as someone will pay, and someone paid for it.

When I drop an important screw and can't find it, its after midnight no way to get a replacement and I've been working on the pin for 8 hrs. Biggest scandal ever for me.

+1

Let's keep the good stuff to ourselves.

Threads like this that hope to perpetuate the negative and turn pinside into RGP.

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned, "Randy Buffalo."

From the google group pinball era, there was the C&D letters from wayno.

Then there was that company (or guy) who use to restore playfields and disappeared from the face of the earth. He had everyones playfields and no one could get a hold of him. I forget the company name. I always wondered if anyone got there playfield back.

The pinsider that sold Tron to buy a monkey/chimp/bonobo.

Ah, did you get burned by this as well? If it was the same guy, took me a year to get mine - and the quality. .............. well, I'll show you some time.

Karl Zona - I luckily got my playfield back. Between that incident and my experience in the first MM remake, I learned a lot about the pinball hobby.

yea, Karl was batshit crazy. Anyone that saw his antics on RGP, I always wondered who the hell would send their playfield to him.

His name is Bill Davis.

He was the main source for playfield restoration back in the day and actually does beautiful work.

He got bombarded with playfields, then he got sick and got behind........several years behind!

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/bill-davis-today-whats-he-doing

Not sure if this qualifies but Dito's reveal on page 10 epic

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/signed-de-star-wars-estimated-value

Anything choggard sells

Heh... "Pinball Scandles"
#FIRSTWORLDPROBLEMS

Randy Buffalo shipping

Game Plan line managers making off with parts from the factory to build machines on their own while the CEO fled the country due to pending tax evasion charges as the company was going bankrupt.

viperrwk

Yes! That's the one I was thinking of.

They were selling it for a customer. GRC didn't set the price. Still not sure I would pay what the seller told GRC to sell it for. I guess pins are like graded coins now. You pay more for something in better shape.

I agree with this one. I have a buddy that lost a minty WMS IJ in that debacle ...

Firelfy getting cancelled was a much bigger travesty. Hell, I'm still pissed off about it over a decade later. Arrested Development at least got three seasons, and to be honest, it was running out of steam towards the end. Firefly was yanked after only 12 episodes, and I'd still argue that it might be the best show to ever grace our television screens.

yep.

we named our son Malcolm. our last name happens to be Reynolds; we couldn't resist.

(His middle name is Zefram by the way ... we are such nerds ....)

Biggest scandal not mentioned so far? Two words:

Gary Cubeta

You old timers know what I'm talking about....

So many people say this. I thought Firefly was OK, but I never got the outrage. I didn't watch it until after it had been cancelled, so I didn't have any emotion about its end.

I think there were many better Sci-Fi shows than this. I have to believe the early cancellation added to the infamy of the show as I just don't see how so many people think it was the best show ever. Maybe, MAYBE it would make my top 10 Sci-Fi. Not even close to top 10 all shows considered.

You know, I was a active poster on RGP during that period. And my thoughts are that Gary was more of a lesson to be learned than a scandal. Someone can only upset you if you let them, a lesson that I learned by growing up with an older brother (where I had to learn how to take it), and with a younger sister (where I like to think I got pretty skilled in giving it out). The guy would post an opinion pretty strongly, and folks that didn't agree with him were almost always the ones that escalated things into nastiness. Once that pattern was established it was self-fulfilling from that point on. Certainly Gary went out of his way to keep it going, and I won't defend any of his very personal attacks on folks, but I honestly never felt like it was all him.

This same problem can be seen today on Pinside. Post something potentially negative in one of the fanboy threads and you will be treated to at least 12 angry posts, and 3 unrelated gifs. And when the potentially negative thing comes true 6 months later do any of those guys apologize for how they treated anyone? No way, when in fact folks should be able to post any opinions they want without personal attacks and backlash, this is a forum and it should be all about opinions.

Don't forget his side kick jeff reynolds. You know they were working together.

Some people just like to destroy.

Look up when gary apologized to Cliffy and Cliffy accepted it. gary immediately went after him.

I'm not sure if this qualifies as a "Scandal" but I'm sure waiting to see what comes of this Python's Pinball Circus "remake." Looks to be pretty cool.

You shouldn't have posted that in this thread. Since they are doing it on their own. No up front money from buyers. etc. etc.

LTG : )™

Obviously, it's just my opinion, but I think Firefly was absolutely brilliant. Sadly, we'll never know how the characters and story would have evolved, but I think Joss created a wonderful tapestry with unlimited potential. I'm a sci-fi guy, and I watch all the shows, but Firefly had me hooked in a way that is very rare. The only other sci-fi shows that had close to the same impact on me were Farscape and Babylon 5.

Yeah, you're right, Lloyd. Not really a "scandal" but still, how cool is it going to be? I'm super pumped and hope they can get a working prototype to Texas Pinball Festival this year.

Very true Lloyd. And for the record I was no fan of Gary or his personal attacks on you for sure. But early in the drama years with him it was obvious he was there for the attention, and there were a LOT of folks on RGP that persisted in lavishing him with the attention he sought.

Howzabout the old DE copycat scandal?

^^^

the desw signed backglass saga was a fun one...

Did anyone mention the DE Star Wars signed translite sale where the guy sold it using his Dad's account or something like that?

pshhhh, never mind......I should have read page 3

Bill was one of the first people to use auto clear on playfields. He did the playfield in my AFM over a decade ago and it still looks like new - and it was beat to shit when I sent it to him! Truly amazing work.

Sad that he got overwhelmed.

Don't forget the obvious Murder of Steve Erwin' soley to prevent Crock Hunter Pin from ever seeing the light of day!!! Nanotech mind controlled Stingray with heart seeking barb, that can't be anything from nature to do that!!! Murder I tell you!!!

The guy who had his BBB stolen from the garage.....whose fault was THAT?